- Advice is what we ask for when we already know the answer but wish we didn’t. (Erica Jong)
Here is my collection of various pieces of advice on academic career issues in mathematics, roughly arranged by the stage of career at which the advice is most pertinent (though of course some of the advice pertains to multiple stages).
Disclaimer: The advice here is very generic in nature; I don’t pretend to have any sort of “silver bullet” that will solve all career issues. You will of course need to evaluate many factors, contexts, and needs specific to your own situation, as well as employing a healthy dose of common sense, before making any important career decisions. I would in particular recommend discussing such decisions with your advisor if you have one, as he or she will be familiar with your situation and will likely be able to provide pertinent advice. Also, it should be clear that most of this advice is targeted towards academic careers in mathematics; of course, there are many other career options available besides this, but I have no particularly informed advice to offer for such alternatives.
- Primary school level
- High school level
- Undergraduate level
- How can one become better at solving mathematical problems? Note that there is more to maths than grades and exams and methods; there is also more to maths than rigour and proofs. It is also important to value partial progress, as a crucial stepping stone to a complete solution of a problem.
- Don’t base career decisions on glamour or fame. But you should study at different places.
- Does one have to be a genius to succeed at maths?
- Graduate level
- It is important to work hard, and work professionally. But it is also important to enjoy your work.
- Think ahead to understand the way forward; ask yourself dumb questions to understand the way before.
- Attend talks and conferences, even those not directly related to your own work.
- Talk to your advisor, but also take the initiative.
- Don’t prematurely obsess on a single “big problem” or “big theory”.
- Write down what you’ve done, and make your work available. In this regard, I have some advice on how to write and submit papers.
- Postdoctoral level
- Learn and relearn your field, but don’t be afraid to learn things outside your field.
- Learn the limitations of your tools, but also learn the power of other mathematician’s tools. In particular, you should continually aim just beyond your current range.
- In your research, be both flexible and patient.
- You should definitely travel and present your research if given the opportunity. But be considerate of your audience; talks are not the same as papers.
- Be sceptical of your own work, and don’t be afraid to use the wastebasket.
I am also (slowly) in the process of gathering my thoughts on time management from the perspective of a research mathematician.
- Here are some general thoughts on this topic.
- Batch low-intensity tasks together to take advantage of economies of scale and to reduce distraction.
More advice:
- John Baez’s page on career advice.
- Po Bronson’s article on the relative importance of innate intelligence versus effort.
- Fan Chung’s advice for graduate students.
- Lance Fortnow’s “Graduate Student Guide“.
- Oded Goldreich’s “On our duties as scientists“.
- Richard Hamming’s “A stroke of genius: striving for greatness in all you do“.
- Matt Might’s “Illustrated guide to a Ph.D.“
- Gian-Carlo Rota’s “Ten lessons I wish I had been taught”.
- J. Michael Steele’s “Advice for Graduate Students in Statistics.”
- Ian Stewart’s “Letters to a Young Mathematician“.
- Ravi Vakil’s “For potential students“.
- The Princeton Companion to Mathematics‘ section on advice to younger mathematicians, with contributions by Sir Michael Atiyah, Béla Bollobás, Alain Connes, Dusa McDuff, and Peter Sarnak.
- AMS advice page for new PhDs
- AMS graduate student blog
- The Mathematics Stack Exchange has a number of questions and answers on career development (and one can ask further questions that have not already been posed on that site). MathOverflow similarly has questions and answers on careers.

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2 October, 2007 at 7:48 am
Sarkey
So amazing when I find your blog. This is the first time I know another foreign citizen of Chinese origin who got the Fields Prize.
I major in Methmatics in China now and I like maths very much. Next year I’ll graduate. Maybe in the future I’ll go to US for my PhD, wish one day I could meet you there!
2 September, 2009 at 9:07 am
Christian
Professor Tao is an Australian.
20 August, 2010 at 3:35 am
Right
Well, a few Australian may have origins in China or in other Countries, and vice versa.
22 August, 2010 at 6:44 am
Correction
Professor Tao is now an American, who was born in Australia, with Chinese origins.
15 October, 2010 at 7:25 pm
Anonymous
It is not important but:
>Both my parents are Chinese, and I have lived in the US since 1992; however I consider myself primarily an Australian.
From http://www.math.ucla.edu/~tao/whoami.html
28 October, 2007 at 8:37 pm
abraham
I am a student doing B-Tech 3rd semester(8 semester course) at National Institute of Technology,calicut,india.i have a ardent interest in mathematics escpecially algebra nd analysis.I like to pursue mathematics research after my btech degree.pls do advice me on how and where to do it?
thanx in advance..
31 October, 2007 at 5:22 am
shibivasisht
Hi Abraham ,
you have several options considering that you are in the first semester. First thing is to study some linear algebra and little bit of analysis and maybe some abstract algebra the basic stuff that might be covered in a first course. then you can write some exams in your third year for institutes like IMSC in chennai, tifr mumbai, isi in bangalore and kolkata and delhi, harish-chandra research institute in allahabad etc; tifr and imsc also have summer research opportunities which i would strongly recommend. there are several people in places like tifr with an engineering degree. if you want to study in u.s i think you have to take the gre math exam and take several courses in undergraduate math.
best wishes,
Shibi
3 November, 2007 at 9:16 am
sark
I am a doctoral student in the fourth year’s thesis; I have worked for three years on an difficult question in Penalization theory created by the authors “Roynette + Yor + Vallois” :(http://arxiv.org/find/math/1/au:+Vallois_P/0/1/0/all/0/1), it involves several domains of mathematics that I maitraise shortly. Unfortunately, I dont get at any result! .
I do not know what I will do and I do not have any precise broject for my thesis.
so i’m looking for advice for that.
Thanks in advance.
4 November, 2007 at 8:30 pm
abraham
Thanks a lot Shibivasisht for ur kind advice.
8 November, 2007 at 10:06 am
Terence Tao
Dear Sark,
I would recommend that you talk to your thesis advisor on possible alternate projects, either related to your existing project or quite different in nature; I assume in the last three years that you have acquired enough background in your chosen areas of mathematics that you should be aware of other work that is going on and the type of problems to which the tools you have learned may be applied.
28 October, 2009 at 4:38 am
jasdeep singh
Dear Sir,
Presently I am doing Masters in pure Maths.I am interested in doing Doctorate in Maths from UCLA. Please tell me what are the requirements to get admission there.
Thanks…..
19 October, 2012 at 8:18 am
sneha jain
sir i also want to know about this can u please tell me
8 November, 2007 at 6:41 pm
Shibi Vasisht
Dear Professor Tao,
i would like to know what would be the criterion for admission for non math major undergraduates (say with undergraduate degrees in Engineering) if they would like to apply to Graduate School in Math. Do they have to take lots of math courses or do they also need to demonstrate other (research?) abilities in mathematics. Comments and observations are also solicited from other readers of the blog who are in the know of Graduate admissions .
Thanks,
Shibi
9 November, 2007 at 12:29 pm
sark
Dear Professor Terrence,
First, thank you for your advice and for all what you do for maths.
I agree completely with you, but my advisor doesn’t have any project for my thesis, he tell me to see what is important for other mathematiciens and doing similar things!; but there are a lot of things that interrest peoples. So, I find myself in the situation: what direction of research one can take ? (which need good vision).
Thank you very much Professor.
11 November, 2007 at 7:04 am
gary
Hi Terry,
I was wondering how much physics should a maths student aim to know. I plan on going to graduate school next year, and I’m interested in your take on this.
Thanks,
gary
15 November, 2007 at 8:36 pm
Grad
Dear Prof Tao,
Your blog is extremely well writtten informative and I congratulate you for all the good work.
I will appreciate your point of advice on students who are in the initial years of their grad school (having completed the general background courses) and are trying to focus on more specialised research topics from a broader range of their interests (I find myself in such a situation:)).
Thank you
Grad
31 December, 2007 at 12:27 am
Jodi
Dear Dr. Tao,
This blog is full of information that it nearly overflows with knowledge. Thank you very much!
-Jodi
30 January, 2008 at 1:57 am
Thomas Riepe
Here a report on the ways of changing information processing in (university) students. IMO very interesting:
http://www.bl.uk/news/pdf/googlegen.pdf
30 January, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Mehdi
Hi Dr. Tao
I’m an engineer student and your advice is very helpful. I can relate to it not only through engineering, but through competitive soccer.
thanks very much!
6 February, 2008 at 12:40 am
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14 March, 2008 at 6:25 pm
Anonymous
More advice on the “Principles of Effective Research” by Michael A. Nielsen:
http://www.qinfo.org/people/nielsen/blog/archive/000120.html
(Thanks to Mark C. Wilson for pointing out the link).
31 March, 2008 at 4:17 pm
zh
Do we need to have very good programming skills in order to carry out the mathematical research?
31 March, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Terence Tao
Dear zh: programming is a useful general skill to have, but I think in most areas of pure mathematics it is not necessary (beyond the rudimentary level of skill needed to use mathematical computation packages such as Maple, Mathematica, etc.). In the more numerical parts of applied mathematics programming skills are of course somewhat more essential.
9 November, 2009 at 7:16 am
Joihn Nuttall
I am reluctant to express a view different from that of the estimable Prof. Tao, but my recent experience supports my position.
I am a number of years past retirement, and can afford to disregard the advice often given to young people. Thus I have been working on the Riemann Hypothesis (RH) for a year, buiding on work of 20 years and more, but following what may be a new approach.
This problem has been studied for about 150 years, and I do not expect to be able to equal the skills or knowledge of the famous mathematicians of the past who have contributed to the problem. However, I encourage myself with the thought that we now have computational tools that are far in more powerful than the methods formerly in use, which may give us a massive avantage over the pioneers.
It seems to me that perhaps the most difficult part of solving a mathematical problem is knowing (or more likely guessing) what results to prove in order to reach the final solution. In the case of the RH I have used numerical methods to conjecture several possibly relevant results (at least one definitely relevant) that lead to progess in my approach. Without the computer I would never have been able to guess their form. I believe that there is very little chance that these results are incorrect. Of course these results and others yet to be found will have to be proved in other ways before the problem is solved.
The computations that I have been doing do not involve a great deal of programming skill – I use Intel Linux Fortran on an old laptop – but I am almost sure that Maple etc. would be far too slow to produce useful results.
9 November, 2009 at 7:18 am
John Nuttall
I spelled my name wrongly in the previous post! Sorry.
3 April, 2008 at 7:00 pm
ErdosPuskás
This is a wonderful aid. Thank you.
9 April, 2008 at 12:08 am
cd
Hi. Some months (maybe alot of months) ago on this blog, there was a talk about some forthcoming notes concering your thoughts on time/work-management etc. How are those notes and thoughts coming along, if at all?
6 May, 2008 at 2:35 am
sandy
Hi,
I’m a software engineer working for a company in India. I’ve always loved mathematics and now would like to pursue some formal education to understand what’s happening in the area of math. Is there any distant education programmes for pure math? kindly advice.
29 May, 2008 at 6:38 am
kasım
Dear Professor Terrence,
First, thank you for your advice and for all what you do for maths.
I agree completely with you, but my advisor doesn’t have any project for my thesis, he tell me to see what is important for other mathematiciens and doing similar things!; but there are a lot of things that interrest peoples. So, I find myself in the situation: what direction of research one can take ? (which need good vision).
Thank you very much Professor.
7 June, 2008 at 9:42 am
Anonymous
Dear Prof. Tao
Thank you very much for the advice. The links to Rota’s advice and to Connes advice seem to be broken.
Best,
Grétar
7 June, 2008 at 10:41 am
Terence Tao
Thanks for the correction!
23 June, 2008 at 8:06 pm
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13 July, 2008 at 6:34 am
Ochan Tokwiny
Dear Prof Tao,
The career advice you give is universally applicable irrespective of whether one is interested in pursuing mathematics or not. I am for example interested in geology, and would like to pursue graduate studies in this area but have found your advice quite useful.
Iam amazed that given your heavy schedule of teaching, research, lectures, etc, you can still find time to write enormous material about career advice.
Thank you for freely sharing your knowledge and experience, for this is the kind of stuff that can give a lot of inspiration to others.
2 August, 2008 at 10:48 am
Nathan
Mr. Tao:
I will be attending graduate school this fall in mathematics. However, I keep second guessing the school I’ll be attending. Have you ever had a student mention that they were afraid they were not going to a “good enough” graduate institution for mathematics? Don’t get me wrong–I look forward to the one I’ll be attending. I just want to make sure I go somewhere that will prepare me as much as possible for my future in mathematics. I just don’t want to fall behind everyone else at the higher ranked institutions, such as MIT, Harvard, and Princeton. Any advice?
-Nathan
8 August, 2008 at 12:05 am
Jon
I hope this helps Nathan, who wondered about going to a “good enough” graduate institution.
I went to graduate school at a state school, under an advisor with recent accolades. He had, in fact, recently been nominated for a Fields Medal for his innovative solution to some old open problem. After the tough four years of my Ph.D. I ended up with a nice thesis but no research postdoc and had to work at a small teaching institution. I worked very hard to solve open questions of a big guy in my field, to try to get my feet back in the door of a big research place. I solved one of these questions only to find out that, since it was asked six years before, that the result was known (but still unpublished to my knowledge) and now considered routine to the big guy and his closest followers. My paper was rejected from a decent journal although quite a few experts found it interesting and worthy of publication. Basically, the big guy squashed the paper!
It is my feeling that if you want to work in a flashy area it is most important to work directly under the leader in that area in order to avoid something like this from happening to you. Often flashy fields move quickly and you can easily waste time proving things that are outdated in the ideas of the top expert very soon. It would be beneficial to know when such things are known as soon as you possibly can. This is my biggest regret about my choice of grad school. I had an opportunity to work with one of the best research groups around and chose not to move there for personal reasons, for example since my advisor at the state school was a “hot new fad”. Now I am quite close to quitting mathematics. You should go to the best place you can. Also, if you are at a good place and your relationship with your advisor doesn’t quite work out, then there will be other reputable people to work with. You won’t find yourself “held hostage” by your advisor. In retrospect, unless you like teaching and don’t mind getting mediocre pay, (i.e. if you are dead-set on a research career), I would either go to one of the flashiest places there are (MIT, Harvard, Berkeley, UCLA…) or simply pick another career. This is harsh, but I think it is true. (See John Baez’s career advice link on Terry’s page.) Perhaps Terry can comment if I am inaccurate in my assessment of the situation.
8 August, 2008 at 12:08 am
Jon
I should qualify that the area I work in is a technical field moving quite quickly at the moment, and this poses many dangers. There are other ways to go. (Atiyah and Singer have an interview online in which Atiyah makes remarks about the dangers of getting “too technical” and working only on a narrow area)
8 August, 2008 at 6:28 am
Jon
As an addendum to my depressed earlier posts… (apologies for those). I have recently been contacted by the “big guy” who suggested a journal for my paper and invited me to visit to learn more about his subject. I guess things aren’t so dire after all, and that the big guys don’t squash papers necessarily. Sorry for the (potentially) bad absolutist advice.
9 August, 2008 at 8:46 am
Nathan
Jon, I thank you for the advice! It was very beneficial. I do think I would have quite a difficult time getting in at MIT, Berkeley, Harvard, UCLA, etc. I will be attending NC State this fall. Perhaps if I don’t like the program, I could transfer (although some places do not like accepting a transfer student). At first, I accepted Maryland at College Park. But after searching for a place to stay and seeing/hearing the crime in the town, I chose to go to NC State.
9 August, 2008 at 11:44 am
John Armstrong
Nathan, the “crime” in College Park is severely overblown. I did my undergraduate work there, I return frequently when I’m in the area, and I’d accept a position at UMD in a heartbeat without any reservations.
24 August, 2008 at 8:09 am
Nathan
I am a first-year graduate student, and one of the areas I’m interested in researching is number theory (specifically primes and their distribution). I find several schools that research number theory, but I have yet to find a professor from one of those schools that has anything to do with prime numbers, the Riemann hypothesis, etc. I’m on the eastern side of the USA. Does anyone know professors on this side that research such topics?
25 August, 2008 at 8:55 am
Kaon
Dear Mr.Tao,
I am a masters student in analysis. I have been searching through nearly all web pages of good programs. What I notice is that differential equations are indispensable for analysis. Most of the current faculty in good programs are working analysis mostly in connection with PDE, ODE, geometry or more algebraic aspects like K-theory (operator algebras etc.). Why is this so? In fact, I was quite disappointed because I thought one could work on a purely abstract type of analysis, I mean without calculations, equations or too much contact with applications. Is this supposed to be the way of analysis? Is analysis supposed to have some connection with applications or with other areas like geometry? or is it just the current shape of research in analysis but it might change in the future?
26 August, 2008 at 2:16 am
Cristi
There is an informative discussion about the current research in analysis here:
http://www.mathlinks.ro/viewtopic.php?t=193477 .
But I’m sure Mr. Tao can tell us even more about this.
16 October, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Anonymous
I took a new academic administrative position but only stayed for four months because my house in another state did not sell. Now that the house has sold and I’m back on the market, but employers seem to be afraid of me.
Help! The situation was out of my control. Sammie
25 October, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Faruk Temur
Dear Prof. Tao
I am a senior student in Mathematics. It was quite surprising for me to see that a very busy mathematician like you have such a great blog and communicate modestly with students and even laymen. I read some of your career advices and found your advices about importance of hardwork, and relevance of experience in solving top class problems very useful. Upon reading your advices, I understood that it is a great mistake to solely concentrate on one big problem and such a mistake may destroy an entire career.
I will graduate at the end of this year and I have applied UCLA to be a PhD student in Mathematics next year. I hope I will be admitted and have a chance to listen lectures of you.
28 October, 2008 at 3:30 pm
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26 November, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Jennifer Summers
Your sage advice can be applied to much more than just an academic career issues in mathematics. Your advice is a sound model of how to approach any career, position or even any problem or goal that you might face or choose.
I particulalrly liek the wastebasket idea which is something that I have been using since Tony Robbins recommended it a few years back. The wastebasket approach helps realx you much more and allows ideas to flow more freely, without tha apprehension and prejudging of any ideas that may arise.
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29 December, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Anonymous
Hi Terry,
A rather basic question coming from a beginning undergraduate student whose first real analysis class just ended — how does one recall how proofs of basic results are constructed? Do you tend to keep a notebook handy with a small outline of the proofs and the “magic tricks” invoked therein? (I should have done that!) While I was studying for my final exam, I had to go through basic proofs again and understand their construction — even though I had done that for midterms before with success. Heck, some proofs that I actually wrote for previous problem sets weren’t immediately accessible.
Again, this does seem basic. But this also concerns me on the far end of the tunnel since the mathematics that I’ll learn will span different topics (at the undergrad level), and yet it’s very likely I won’t remember much about proofs that I had learned after a relatively short amount of time.
Words of advice would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Jad
30 December, 2008 at 8:30 am
Terence Tao
Dear Jad,
I think this issue will become easier as you advance to higher levels of mathematics, for two reasons. Firstly, when you study more advanced topics, you will come to realise that many proofs in seemingly different areas of mathematics are in fact special cases of a general argument; once one memorises that argument, there is not as much of a need to memorise all the special cases. (For instance, there are many arguments in analysis that boil down to “check the statement for a dense class of test objects first, and then take limits.”) The other is that in more advanced classes, you will spend more of your time doing proofs rather than reading them. This is quite difficult to get a hang of at first – it requires different modes of thought than just rote memorisation and pattern recognition – but with enough experience, you’ll see what makes proofs “work”, and understanding other proofs will become easier.
Actually, one of the best ways to memorise the proof of X is to cover up the proof and try to prove it yourself. Usually, what happens is that you’ll be able to get halfway through the proof but get stuck on a key point. After you get frustrated, this is the time to uncover the proof, at which point you should quickly see the trick or observation that eluded you before, and then the rest of the proof often becomes quite obvious to you. When done this way, the only thing you need to remember to reconstruct the proof is that key insight, which tends to stay in one’s memory precisely because you didn’t have it before.
(The very best ways to learn the proof of X, of course, are to teach about it in a class, or to adapt that proof for one’s own research, but these options are rarely available at the undergraduate level.)
See also my advice pages here and here.
20 August, 2011 at 3:44 am
Luqing Ye
”Check the statement for a dense class of test objects first, and then take limits” .This reminds me of the connection between the L.Hospital’s rule and O’stolz theorem.Wish I do mot misunderstand this sentence.
12 January, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Anonymous
I’m sure this blog has a large and diverse readership. However, I would bet a large number of your readers are graduate students and postdocs/junior faculty members. My question is about how to implement your advice, and I think it is probably pretty universal to this group of readers. Most grad students, at some point, reach the conclusion that they are under productive (that they waste too much time doing X, such as: playing video games, watching TV, working out at the gym, talking to office mates, reading politics blogs, playing Frisbee, etc), and that it has come time to buckle down, do all of the things you write about in your career advice pages and, generally, increase their productivity. However, I know of few cases where this has lead to a sustained change in behavior and productivity.
By all accounts you have a near unrivaled level of productivity and time management skill. Did you develop this naturally over time, or did you have a moment (like those described above) where you took decisive measures to improve your productivity? Either way, any thoughts you have on the subject are welcome.
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a shy student
Dear Prof. Tao,
I am a Ph. D student in mathematics. I would like to learn answer of these following questions:
1) Should our first paper be originial? namely do we have to prove something new to publish? Genarally, when we start to do research, at the beginning, everything seems very confusing, after a while, we start to figure out what is going on but still we are in the level of proving a new lemma or theorem. In that case should we write survey type papers and try to publish it?
2) do you believe that there is an age limit for being mathematician?Some people say that ”if you did not do anything so far, forget it, you can not do after that” is that right? I believe that passion and hard working are more important but sometimes I tend to believe them.
I really want to thank you with my all heart. I am visiting your blog everyday, you give us hope and motivation. We appreciate your work.
God bless you..
15 March, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Anonymous
Dear Prof. Tao,
Which method would you say is a good method when studying a new subject (undergrad & grad level)? To make this more precise:
During the class pretty much everyone take notes. However, after that people differ.
1. Some people take their notes and starts reading them just like that, without having a pen or piece of paper at hand.
2. Others have some extra scratch paper and take notes which includes one or several of the following:
2a. Some type down all the definitions.
2b. Some try to solve theorems, propositions etc before reading the solutions.
2c. Some work out their own examples.
And we can go further:
2d. Some retype all the notes so that it looks nice, tidy and is easy readable.
2e. Something else.
Now, doing 2d. takes you through the notes slowly and you learn a lot. But it also takes much time, too much time if you are in a hurry. 1 is a fast method, but I’ve never done that and I am not sure how much one would remember.
Which method that is “the best” probably differ from person to person. But if you’ve been doing math for a long time I am sure one has picked up a few neat study habits. So I would be pleased if I could hear a few tips from yourself and other readers.
Thank you
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4 May, 2009 at 9:34 am
Vijay
Dear sir,
actually i recently came across ur name in one of the forums.iam currently in INDIA doing by 12th standard ie my last year of schooling and next year i have to join a college.i am very very deeply interested in MATHEMATICS and its my passion.i want to be a mathematician,though i haven’t even passed the REGIONAL MATHEMATICS OLYMPIAD thats conducted in the country.but the problem is i have no idea as to what i should be working so that i can become a mathematician.i have no clue on where i have to join for my under- graduation or what course i have to go for. but the thing is that i very much love the subject and i would practically do anything to achieve my goal.please help me and advice me on which books i should study and which fields should i develop my knowledge more on.
please advice me sir,please.
vijay
5 May, 2009 at 1:19 am
Amit
@Vijay,
ISI have good undergraduate program in Mathematics. Besides there is CMI [Chennai] which is also good.
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8 July, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Akhil Mathew
Vijay, the Secret Blogging Seminar recently started a thread (http://sbseminar.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/bleg-book-recommendations-for-an-undergraduate/) on books to read at an undergraduate level, which may be of interest to you as well.
27 July, 2009 at 2:42 am
Abhay
Dear Sir,
I am right now a 2nd year student of Computer Science at IIT Bombay in India. Recently I have developed a lot of interest in the field of Cognitive Science. I have been reading a few books as well. I would also like to enter the research arena after my graduation. So can u pls. tell me which topics in mathematics will be helpful to me in this field? This will help me in building up good fundamentals in the subject. thanx a lot..
29 July, 2009 at 7:47 am
samia
i m a 2nd year student of pre medical
plz help me out what will b best 4 me except this field
right now im preparing 4 my entry test.. m from karachi PAKISTAN
5 September, 2009 at 5:09 am
Qwerty
Dear Prof. Tao (and other professional mathematicians),
What should a student think about before, and during, writing a letter to a potential supervisor he has never met, and can no meet. For example, how about the length of the letter. Is 1 (one) page (A4) enough? What to include in the letter and how much of my background should I give away? I don’t want my letter to be too long and too talky, but not too short, either.
I do not know much details about my subject (alg. K-theory) but some basic stuff. So therefore I can not include things such as “and Theorem B by Quillen made me think of the problem in terms of …” (say) in my letter. Is it normal for student to only have a vague idea of their subject of interest (I guess this varies from subject to subject as some subjects are more accessible for an graduate student (not yet a phd student) than others) or am I better off not ranting about how little I know about the subject I am supposed to be interested in? (although, I want to be as honest as possible in my letter)
Thank you.
4 October, 2009 at 1:46 pm
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5 October, 2009 at 9:40 am
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22 November, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Anonymous
Hello everybody,
I am in the process of writing my first grant proposal. Can anyone offer me some advice? A few successfull samples would be great.
Thanks
30 November, 2009 at 10:59 pm
Anonymous
Dear Prof Tao,
What is worth doing?Solving any mathematical problem using any advanced method or going for it on the toughest path that is through elementary ideas.
For example we are set up to solve a geometrical problem, we can solve it in quick time using trigonometry but what is your advise if we solve it using elementary ideas of geometry which can take lots of time in comparison to what we have spared with the previous technique.
23 December, 2009 at 7:34 am
Prakash
Dear Prof Tao,
I am doing undergraduation in Biotechnology. I love mathematics a lot. How can i shape my career such that i’ll be doing good level of mathematics in my profession.
15 January, 2010 at 9:21 am
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30 January, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Rob
Terrence,
All my life I have been mystified and astounded of the beauty of mathematics all around us. As an undergraduate, I was a very successful student who worked incredibly hard and did very, very well. I’m currently a first year graduate student who is struggling through every single class, working as hard as I can possibly work only to find failure around every corner. It has always been my dream to pursue a Ph.D. in Mathematics, but due to the recent situations with the courses I’ve taken, I’m almost at the point of losing everything, and I have no idea what to do. Do you have any suggestions!
-Rob
6 March, 2010 at 7:42 am
gregory
Dear sir,
I am an 8th semester (8 semester course)B.Tech student of National Institute Of Technology,Calicut, India.We(me and my group) are working on algorithms for efficient recovery of signal from its compressively sampled data given the domain in which the signal is sparse(As a part of our major project-a 1 year project )..Now we are thinking about whether it is possible to convert the l2 norm minimized solutions of a set of undetermined equations to l1 norm solutions by some recursive algorithms.It is evident that accurate l1 solutions cannot be obtained from their l1 counterparts because the conversion is highly non linear and does involve some inherent error.So the question is about converting l2 solutions to l1 solutions with minimum error.Also it is known that the set of under determined equations(with m equations and n variables where n is greater than m) has an l1 norm minimized solution which has only m non zero solutions and rest n-m are zero.With all these in mind is there any method to do this?Please advise me on the same.
Given that finding out l2 solution is computationally less complex in the overall execution time, some methods like these should prove helpful in our project.Please advice on this…
Shortly, I will be posting one crude idea about the same..I would be very pleased if you could verify it to see if there are fundamental errors in the first step assumptions.
Please reply..Thanks in advance…
21 March, 2010 at 10:46 pm
amlan chakraboty
dear proffesor tao: I am a student from india , i am very sad at my country’s dismal performance at the imo 2009 (held at bremen,germany ).India got a rank of 28 in 104 countries. I am in class10 ,highly interested in mathematics ,and i want to represent my country at imo.What are the most important topcis for qualifying at regional level as well as in imo? also please tell me what are my foremost priorities for competitng at such a high level? and pllllllllllllleeease do come to india.
1 April, 2010 at 7:28 pm
srivatsa
Respected sir,
I have no words to express my happiness.I find very less mathematicians helping out the beginners.Anyway sir i am doing my masters in mathematics specializing in number theory and to a good extent in algebra i have a year left for my completion of my masters degree and plan to take up research the next year.I have deep interest in number theory,analysis,algebra and infact any field of mathematics just interests me a lot….I seek your advice as to what to take up next,is there any universities abroad or even your university that can help me take up my research.
6 April, 2010 at 5:20 pm
mal
Hi Dr. Tao,
I’m a fifth year mathematics graduate student. Throughout my grad years I’ve been wondering what exactly is the role of an adviser. Is the adviser’s only job to give the student books and papers to read and a problem and leave them alone?
I haven’t been getting much help from my adviser on understanding his work. It was difficult to fill in the gaps in his paper without his help. He never gave me enough time to read an elementary book on the subject and got me reading his paper the first thing and since then I’ve just been lost. I’ve done some calculations and yet I don’t see the big picture.
I still have a lot of gaps in my understanding of the subject he works in. I’ve always felt lost and it wasn’t easy communicating to him my problems as he didn’t seem keen on understanding my difficulties in the subject. I still do!
I’m just wondering if I’m too stupid to do math. I don’t know what I should have done. I tried reading other books/papers that were referenced in the paper and it was still hard to understand them.
I’ve always enjoyed understanding and working on math on my own but I guess I’m too slow. I’m completely confused and frustrated about what I should do.
mal.
13 April, 2010 at 5:22 am
Yiwei
“Is the adviser’s only job to give the student books and papers to read and a problem and leave them alone?”
I don’t think so for a normal situation. An adviser should discuss with you per week on your progress. Suppose you are new to swimming. Should your swimming adviser just need to point out where he swam, and give you some instruction books or some pictures he took along his route? Shouldn’t he save you when you are sinking in the swimming pool? Nobody will agree with that!
With sympathy,
Yiwei
6 April, 2010 at 9:52 pm
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11 April, 2010 at 1:29 am
Yiwei
Hi Terrence,
Could you share your experience on learning knowledge that was very new to you?
Thanks a lot!
Yiwei
15 April, 2010 at 8:04 am
quochai
my terence tao
i pray for you to win 2 more field medal, abel and wolf prize every day , year after year. i sent you a picture of buddha helped by cri(china radio). TAO tries more. no one in the world look down you.you are considered the second great wall.if you cannot do , i will sad and cry. try much more.my heart always towards you
19 April, 2010 at 3:41 pm
mr Pibb
This question may fell squarely into the domain of the Erica Jong quote, but what the hell. More likely it will fail off the tail end of this very long thread of comments.
It’s really two different questions on a related theme.
BACKGROUND
A few years back a did a PhD in “closely related” area to mathematics. Not math, but an area Terry mentions on this blog and certainly knows about and would view as math-ish. I published in good venues, got some nice recognition for my efforts from international socieities and did some postdoctoral work at some good institutions.
But the postdoctoral work was very hard on my marriage, and I ended up cutting the postdoc time a little too short (some peers who stuck it out a few more years got very good appointments).
I tried lecturing at a local university and writing papers. I was able to be productive for a time (ie. published new work and acquired some very positive teaching reviews), but the lack of benefits and very low pay made it untenable in the long term.
I tried my hand at the job market again (only TT, no more postdocs). And the thing was, the only interviews and such nibbles that I got in the USA were from math departments (some quite good). But I got no offers – just some runner up condolences.
So now I am working at a Gigantic Tech company. The salary is no condolence. I hate it every day. I miss doing math (or mathematical whatever I was doing before). I can do some mathy stuff on evenings and weekends, but it is not that much and probably not enough to land a permanent position in a university or at a lab
QUESTION 1: maybe math would have been a more appropriate route
I get to thinking: If all my interest from hiring committees came from mathematics departments yet my PhD was not in math —- would I have done better looking for tenure track research university jobs had I obtained a PhD in mathematics (instead of a “sometimes allied area”)?
and when you get down to it, I always liked the mathematical side of my research more than the applied side or “domain side”.
But that’s all in the past. What about the future?
1. would it all be worthwhile to obtain a PhD in mathematics at this relatively late stage of life (post 30)? presumably I could do this a bit on the quick, seeing as I know how to do research and publish, and I could use the time to broaden a bit
2. would it simply be better to start publishing in more mathematical venues? this would probably be the right answer for somebody who already had a professor job, but it may not be the right one for a person in my position, since “getting back into the system” is a big issue for me
QUESTION 2:
What is the most solid way to re-enter academia after a stint in industry? (surely a relative statement)
My guess is that this is usually done by people that work in “industrial research labs” or in a very applied areas where the boundary between research and industry is blurry.
That’s not really the case here. The kinds of things I am interested in are not really valued by any industrial employers. I am talking about getting back in after being out for 1-3 years.
The only thing I can think of that might work would be to publish as much as possible in free time (nights and weekends, etc), use that to restart my network of collaborators and get some visibility, and somehow use that to get a postdoc or temporary position to be genuinely productive for a year or two and then try to land a TT position after that. Of course, both of those jobs are anything but guaranteed. And most temporary/visiting positions are reserved for fresh PhDs.
Have you ever heard of anybody successfully doing something like that ?
(Re-entering mathematical research after being in “commercial” industry for a couple years by getting a “visting researcher” position and using that to restart a career?)
What are your thoughts on it? Do you think it could work? Do you think that something else would work?
(some pre-answers: while my employer has research divisions, they are very much non-mathematical in methodology and intent, so going there is a bit of a stretch, at least if I want to do something mathematical)
24 April, 2010 at 4:25 am
Yiwei
Hi mr Pibb
You may consider to find a job at a math department in some ordinary University in China, if you really love math. China is a large scale Country, like U.S., yet with much abundant scales, and you will find a scale suitable to your situation without too much efforts.
Good luck!
Yiwei
19 April, 2010 at 4:02 pm
mr Pibb
just some refinements—
The assertion that a mathematics PhD could ever be done “on the quick” is kind of insulting and naive. It would be better if I had said that 3 years seems realistic, if ambitious.
The “Erica Jong” answer is of course to give up on mathematical research and simply find a job in industry that I do not hate. But I find that take on things to be uninteresting.
21 April, 2010 at 10:59 pm
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29 April, 2010 at 1:15 am
abc
I have done BCA.Please tell me what should I do next.I don’t want to do MCA.
I am not planning to do job now.I want to study some courses.Please suggest me which course will be better.By doing which course I will be employed in good IT company with good salary and good position?
29 April, 2010 at 1:18 am
Adolfo
Dear Terrence Tao,
I am a mexican student just about to end the undergraduate degree. Recently I finished my thesis, nothing new, just 2nd order Nonlinear Oscillations (AC. Lazer) and degree theory to demonstrate fixed point theorems. And well, I have an excellent adviser who is dedicated to topological and variational methods applied to nonlinear analysis and PDE’s.
I was accepted for a PhD. or MSc (I specify) at the following places (where I put the subject of possible study and the possible adviser):
- Bonn Universitat (MSc)(geometric analysis, operator theory and PDE) – Lazlo S., Wernard Muller.
- University of Toronto (MSc)(Dynamical Systems, PDE, Global Analysis) – McCann, J. Colliander, Khesin, Khanin… you may know perfectly who may be
- Universidad de Granda (Spain) (PhD.)(Nonlinear analysis) – David Arcoya who works with with L. Boccardo and Ambrosseti.
- Warwick University (PhD)(dynamical systems and ergodic theory) – Mark Pollicot, J. Robinson
- Cornell University (PhD not accpeted yet, but tentaively accpeted, staring in 2 years)(Dynamical Systems, Nonlinear Analysis, etc…) – Yulij Ilyashenko.
This are my options, and well my doubt is not only where, but which subject. Because, somehow I even love combinatorics and abstract algebra, it is a little difficult for me to decide where to go… at least Nonlinear Analysis or Dynamical Systems and I am still expecting someone that tells me: Hey this subject combines them all the time! But… no one have haha.
-I think all of them (maybe some with more fame than other) are excellent advisers, I have talked almost with all of them and I can say they are even better persons. I mean I see the number of areas you work in, but well I consider myself just a “good” prospective not a “genius” prospective haha so maybe choosing the subject is a critical point of my graduate studies. ¿How may I decide the subject?, or if you know of something mixing Nonlinear Analysis and Dynamical Systems it is very welcome.
Recently I have been doing analysis (PDE mostly) and i do like it very much but sometimes I feel there are tooooooo mannnyyyyy technical steps and not the sufficient geometric intuition that I expected (maybe something that sound like too much of rough analysis).
-¿Maybe you recommend reading something of Harmonic Analyisis?
-One last thing, do your recommend choosing a masters option first and going to Cornell (mexico has a very high level at undergraduate studies) or directly to PhD (although sometimes not very sure of my subject)?
Thanks,
Adolfo
30 April, 2010 at 6:05 am
Anonymous
Hi, unfortunately I need to keep this posting anonymous. I hope this can be still an open issue that can be discussed here.
What should a graduate student do when, within his group -starting from his own personal experience, and have that spread through every other student and postdocs in the group- there is an objective and well established issue of mobbing? The situation is critical, ranging from free insulting by the head of the department, to continuous discouragement towards each one hard work. From dictatorship and threatening (“I will not admit you to defend your thesis if … ” is a constant), to continuous control over your own work and over the contacts that a student may be searching outside of the research group.
A postdoc can leave at any time, and search for another position, but it is more difficult than that when a student is at his (supposed) last year of graduate studies.
Thank you in advance for this blog, and for the entire webpage. An invaluable source for graduate students.
3 May, 2010 at 6:44 am
Christian
Dear Professor Tao,
what requirements should have sb to give an excellent mathematical lecture either to a research audience either in a class of University where the audience are the students and the instructor of the course?
16 May, 2010 at 2:24 am
Tushar
Dear Professor Tao,
I have just finished my first year in college, and am studying in IIT Kanpur. I am pretty interested in number theory, but unfortunately my college does not offer a course in number theory, instead offers loads of analysis courses but not number theory courses. :( ..So, I would like to know what should i do? as in, any book that you may refer for me(keeping in mind, i hve jut finished my first of undergraduate college).
thanks,
Tushar
23 May, 2010 at 1:09 am
Anonymous
Literature is what we ask for when we already learn the knowledge from the textbook but wish we didn’t.
22 June, 2010 at 9:07 pm
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24 June, 2010 at 6:46 am
Nic
When it comes to graduate careers, don’t jump in blind. Have a plan so that you have some kind of structure but at the same time, don’t worry if you have to stray from that plan. Don’t worry if what used to be right for you is no longer right, it happens. The only thing worse than jumping in without a plan is ploughing on with a plan that’s going to make you unhappy.
24 June, 2010 at 7:04 am
Anonymous
Well, the only thing works in this game is the potential you have established, plus a good luck.
28 December, 2010 at 6:50 am
Steve
I do not believe in luck.
4 August, 2010 at 10:45 am
Isha
hii
I recently completed my b.tech in electronics & communication(2010) from kurukshetra university..i just want some suggestion how would i get a good job..I have given resumes in a lot of companies..suggest me any consultancy or should i go for ceritification program??I am seekin for a job in electronics as well as in IT sector..
waiting for your reply..
Thnks
Isha
13 August, 2010 at 8:26 am
Anonymous
Dear professor Tao,
Is been a first class mathematician a high pressure, in the sense of having to try hard all the time to not to make a ‘silly mistake’? Or you simply don’t care if you make a mistake that would be considered elemental to every mathematician? I’m not talking about a computational/numerical/algebraic error like 2+2=5 but more on comprehension error like stating wrongly the hypothesis of a well known theorem that undergrads are supposed to know well.
Thanks! =)
13 August, 2010 at 8:26 pm
J Verma
Dear Terry,
I just joined a graduate programme in Mathematics at some state university in United States. I am a sort of not enjoying here. I mean I didn’t like the town, I m still looking for place to live and the peer group here, I mean the senior & the fellow students, is not very interactive and I haven’t met anybody who is working on my area of interest. And the students are not very much interested in mathematics. Moreover the weather is not very pleasant here, its very hot. I studied in Cambridge, UK for masters before. I feel that I don’t belong here, I am really uncomfortable here.
I am planning to apply to some other Universities for spring or next fall sem. What do you suggest. Please reply.
18 August, 2010 at 3:09 am
Avinash
Dear Prof Tao,
I am pursuing my Phd in economics. Research work requires techniques from different fields of mathematics. Questions range from proving the existence in a model, to figuring out the weakest assumption required for conclusion, solving models etc.
Now we obviously can’t afford to spend all our time studying mathematics either. Only feasible solution is to use mathematics in an ‘opportunistic’ and ‘need to know’ basis. My question is what are the ‘core tools’ one needs to master in mathematics so that one can study any field as and when needed?
28 August, 2010 at 3:40 pm
Wickless Candles
Most of your advice is right on target for people studying in any field. I especially liked the suggestions to the Graduate Level Students. Going to talks, writing papers, and taking the initiative are all very important in promoting your future success.
Great article. I also loved the links! Thanks!
26 September, 2010 at 10:10 am
bob
Another puzzle some of us have is the school you chose to join as a prof!,
You could have gone anywhere (Princeton, Harvard, Berkeley,etc) but chose UCLA (nothing wrong with it, but..).
Was it location or other researchers in the same area of Math (but you are so versatile in so many sub disciplines).
Would be nice to know why and how you decided.
26 September, 2010 at 11:10 am
Terence Tao
I discuss my opinions on these issues in the subpages
http://terrytao.wordpress.com/career-advice/which-universities-should-one-apply-to/
and
http://terrytao.wordpress.com/career-advice/don%E2%80%99t-base-career-decisions-on-glamour-or-fame/
3 October, 2010 at 6:32 pm
Mukesh Kumar
Dear Prof Tao
I(Mukesh Kumar) have recently(2 months back) completed my bachelor of engg in electronics & communication from a indian university.
As from my childhood i am astouned of the beauty of mathematics ,and now i’m willing to make my carrer in mathematics field….so i need your valuvale suggestion that what should i do….from where i can start
Plz give me the valuable suggestion as soon as possible
4 October, 2010 at 1:51 am
mishabucko
Dear Terence,
I’m inviting You to my blog, and- especially- this post:
https://mishabucko.wordpress.com/2010/10/02/my-problems/
Hope You could help me in some way as I’m dedicating my life to Kierkegaards, Goedel, Perelman and Ramanujan’s type of work.
Cheers,
Misha
11 October, 2010 at 5:16 am
Diane Ladd
I especially like your opening quote from Erica Jong! This is a very useful collection of advice. I would agree in many ways with the openning quote that many people simply need to be reasured that they are headed in the right direction. As far as time management is concerned, have you ever looked at “getting things done”?
14 November, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Maria Droujkova
Advice on family math clubs (preschool/middle school)
http://naturalmath.wikispaces.com/Math+Clubs+article
5 December, 2010 at 2:37 am
Yousef Rezaei
Hi,
I am an undergraduate student in applied mathematics in Iran.
I found a polynomial time algorithm for Hamiltonian Cycle Problem, But I don’t know how to publish my article to mathematical Community. I have a proof of correctness of my algorithm. It takes at most O(n^4) time and is a kind of genetic algorithms. [ in dense graghs it takes O((n^2)(Log n)) ]
I need your advise and help. thank you a lot.
9 August, 2011 at 8:55 am
Anonymous
Hi Yousef,
As a tip, never try to claim that you have solved a big problem.Professonals normally do not welcome such claims. Instead, try to develop a more general problem, solve it, and let the solution of the big problem be included in your solution of the general problem. Besides, never try to benifit from your solution of any big problems: there are much more things you could benifit from.
5 December, 2010 at 3:39 am
Maria Droujkova
Yousef, try this site: http://mathoverflow.net/
14 January, 2011 at 11:18 am
science and math
@maria
Thanks for the link.
17 January, 2011 at 10:19 pm
.
I have two questions:
1) How old a student of Mathematics can be to seriously think of it as a career? (Any rule of thumbs depending on a persons background?)
2) How do you consider yourselves compared to other historical Math prodigies who have also made their mark? And how lucky or how talented you would consider yourself to be compared to them – there should be some uniqueness about you since you are a Fields Medal winner at a young age?
10 February, 2011 at 7:02 pm
surekha29
Yousef Rezaei, maybe you can post it on the arXiv and get feedback from people?
14 February, 2011 at 11:54 am
Idle Ethnographer
Dear Prof. Tao,
- How often, if at all, do people change subject from humanities to mathematics?
- Do you know anyone who has done, or wants to? What would you advise such adventurous/moonstruck people on how to proceed, where to start, what to consider?
(The background: I’m 29, in my fourth year of sociology PhD (the qualitative kind, more like history than economics, hence my nick). I loved mathematics in high-school, but I chose a different path and have not studied any since I was 19. I do enjoy qualitative sociology (most of the time) and am good at it, and I am considering a research+teaching career. Yet, I find myself thinking all the time that I would enjoy, and be more productive, motivated and generally better at, research in pure mathematics or philosophy of mathematics. I’m not motivated by earnings and I love teaching.
I realise that instead of doing ‘forum research’, I could have spent my time building my math foundations. I did some self-study last year (now I am up to date with most high-school stuff), but now I’m writing up and have little time before I need to take proper career advancement steps.
I’m not underestimating the difficulty of even just a foundation degree in mathematics, let alone proper research: in fact, I am both intimidated and uninformed, and this is partly the reason for my reticence. I also suspect that the wise thing at 30 to do is stick to doing what I’m good at. I agree with the Erica Jong quote: I probably know the answer, but there is always a hopeful ‘what if?’. Even if I never succeed, it would be interesting to find out about others who have.).
16 February, 2011 at 9:05 am
yucao
Dear Prof. Tao,
You put different advises into different levels. Do you think there is some clear cut for these advises? I think, even the advise like “learn and relearn your field”, on which most teachers don’t emphasize at all, in the postdoctoral level is absolutely very useful for the graduate students.
16 February, 2011 at 10:34 am
Anonymous
Hm, I think your second paragraph has already answered my questions:-)
[C.]
14 March, 2011 at 5:14 am
math dictionary
Nice.
I am a 18 year old student and I dream to become a mathematician one day.
17 March, 2011 at 10:09 pm
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30 March, 2011 at 11:03 am
DaveP
Perhaps some of your readers are interested in pursuing a career in industry. I have an undergraduate Applied Math degree from a major university and have found it to be invaluable in my career. I pursued a technical career and actually used some math early on. But the most useful aspects of this degree were first, all of my peers and supervisors assumed I was very smart and second, they all assumed I could do pretty much anything I said I could do. As a result, I was not pigeon holed early in my career, I was always given difficult assignments (reward is definitely proportionate to the level of perceived difficulty of accomplishment) and I was able to gain a great degree of freedom and flexibility.
I was able to leverage this to eventually become the Chief Technology Officer of a Fortune 100 company. Training in mathematics provides the basis for a life long ability to learn and grow. I definitely felt I had an advantage over the normal engineering background.
12 April, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Vivek Kaul
Dear Dr Tao,
I was doing research on the corona problem and I found a student from UCLA whose PhD is in harmonic analysis. He says that he completed thesis Harmonic Measure on Subsets of a Lipschitz Graph and the Corona
Theorem two quarters ahead of schedule. The thesis resolved a twenty-five year old
conjecture concerning the maximum ideal space of bounded analytic functions. http://projecteuclid.org/DPubS?verb=Display&version=1.0&service=UI&handle=euclid.pm/1298670085&page=record I was thinking the Corona problem is still an open problem. Has this problem been solved?
25 January, 2013 at 5:41 pm
Umar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corona_theorem
“It remains an open question whether there are versions of the corona theorem for every planar domain or for higher-dimensional domains.”
you could ask on math.stackexchange.com or mathoverflow.net if you want more updated specific reliable answers.
19 April, 2011 at 12:29 am
anonimous
Dear prof Tao.
Maybe this is a silly question. Is near to the problem of time management. I speak directly with an example so maybe i’m clearer. I’m and undergrad student,and i find on myself this really frustrating phenomenon when i’m left to myself,e.g when i’ve no professor in a little neighboroud of time, to give solution to problems,exams or other things: the effort and the results start to become less and less regular; it happens that i can stay 1 week with no other thing that doing exercise,try to improve my problem solving skills, and learning some theory(for the final exams,and for my interests);then tiredness cumulate and arrive all togheter, and for some days i can do just very soft thinking process(like think about something more qualitative and vague at the best;or just take walks for the whole day);but then it’s always quite difficult to start again the first step.i didn’t find here a sistematic way to start again;but just it happens that i’m quite lucky to find a not too hard but nice thing to think about and it starts again. I’m quite scared of this:i would like to do math in life, but if i’ll become a resaercher i’ll often be in this “free” situation that seems hard to manage in to a regular thinking life. And i don’t find this healty, both for the math and for the one’s life. Do you have any advice to find more a straight way when one is just left to himself? In any case thanks very much for this amazing blog:is a great source of inspiration.
25 January, 2013 at 5:42 pm
Umar
You can ask on meta.math.stackexchange.com or academia.stackexchange.com or some math forum if you want
16 June, 2011 at 4:16 pm
Cogito Interview: Terence Tao, Mathematician and Fields Medalist | Cogito
[...] Read more from Terence Tao in his blog, http://terrytao.wordpress.com, which includes answers to more questions about being a mathematician. [...]
24 August, 2011 at 8:40 pm
John
Dear Prof. Tao,
I learn from your Analysis(vol. I and II) that I have to first of all do analysis “by hand”. One needs to go through a very rigorous level in mathematics in order to get “accurate” intuition. I am nearly mad that every time I do/read analysis, I should go back to the very beginning — Peano axioms in your analysis I. Or sometimes I go to another extreme — for example, I can only do the multivariable calculus without any rigorous proof. Actually, I asked a lots of my friends that who can give a rigorous proof of the divergence theorem. The answer is an absolutely NO.
How do I know when I can “get rid of” the rigorous level and have the precise intuition? However, it seems that, on the other hand, if I go beyond the “rigorous level“ too fast, I cannot even convince myself that I really understand the topic I learn. For example, I use the divergence theorem again and again in my PDE course. But I don’t think I can give a satisfying proof for the result.
That seems to be a “stupid question”. I read your career advice again and again to find something. If my question is not “well-defined”, I will try to improve it.
25 August, 2011 at 9:14 am
Anonymous
“Advice is what we ask for when we already know the answer but wish we didn’t.” Try to answer the question yourself. :-)
10 October, 2011 at 7:49 pm
Anonymous
Looks like Terry will be superseded soon!
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2016447952_gabriel09m.html
13 October, 2011 at 7:06 am
Karishma
Dear Prof Tao,
i am a B.E graduate in electrical engineering.i want to do my higher studies in mathematics.kindly guide me the institutes in mumbai,india that offer courses in mathematics after engineering.
i would also like to know the careers in mathematics,jobs related to the mathematics field and what is the eligibility to get it,do we need to write any entrance exams for it .Thanks in advance
27 October, 2011 at 3:44 am
Why build a website to archive your research? | jbdeaton.com
[...] about how to do great research. I’m thinking of people like Daniel Lemire, John D. Cook, Terence Tao, Matt Might, Matt Welsh, Michael Nielsen, John Regehr, Rob J. Hyndman, and many others (these are [...]
3 November, 2011 at 8:56 am
ronnie74
Just wanted to say that I especially enjoyed your article on “Advice on Gifted Education”. Thank you.
24 November, 2011 at 7:12 am
Maintenance Komputer
Perhaps some of your readers are interested in pursuing a career in industry. I have an undergraduate Applied Math degree from a major university and have found it to be invaluable in my career.
14 December, 2011 at 2:51 pm
“La matemática es más que rigor y demostraciones” | blocdemat
[...] sección que es una joya de leer es la de “career advice“. Hay una entrada en particular que me encanta, que es esta: There’s more to [...]
23 December, 2011 at 1:04 am
Hiatus and some holiday reading | Degree of Freedom
[...] with a gift for explanations. The blog posts tend to be fairly high-level stuff, but the section on careers advice and the list of selected articles (in the sidebar; scroll down quite a long way to find it) are [...]
26 December, 2011 at 7:40 pm
Interesting and Must Read Papers and Articles in Mathematics | MY DIGITAL NOTEBOOK
[...] Advice (A Collection of Some very good advices) http://terrytao.wordpress.com/career-advice/ Terence [...]
10 January, 2012 at 2:59 pm
» 论教育 Not "Not Even Wrong"
[...] 在过去一两年里,我写过一些关于菲尔兹奖获得者,数学家Terence Tao(陶哲轩)的文章。他本人目前科学创作非常活跃,在好几个分支都是领袖人物,他几乎每一两个月都有很好的成果,已经包揽了有关系的所有一切的科学奖章。他可以说是一个Child Prodigy最后获得成功的一个特别好的例子。Tao是我们这个行业中的一个明星数学家,他也很喜欢写关于数学的杂文,他给青年数学家写的career advise(职业建议)写的非常详细,而一篇观点类的文章,What is good mathematics(什么是好的数学)被相当广泛的流传。然而我不打算在本文中过多的谈论他,——我以往已经谈过很多了。我只想提到一点,在我跟他父亲Billy Tao先生通信的时候,Billy经常向我提到“幸福”是人生的目的。我一开始不理解如果“仅仅”是追求幸福,Tao怎么可能在事业上取得这样的成就,后来我慢慢明白了一件事,正是“幸福”,那种发自内心的满足感以及某种意义上的成就感,给人带来非常正面的力量,而正面的力量是可以非常强大的。是的,我认为,“幸福”本身就是令人拥有成就感的一项伟业。 [...]
13 January, 2012 at 5:37 pm
论教育(转) | proudwolflc
[...] 在过去一两年里,我写过一些关于菲尔兹奖获得者,数学家Terence Tao(陶哲轩)的文章。他本人目前科学创作非常活跃,在好几个分支都是领袖人物,他几乎每一两个月都有很好的成果,已经包揽了有关系的所有一切的科学奖章。他可以说是一个Child Prodigy最后获得成功的一个特别好的例子。Tao是我们这个行业中的一个明星数学家,他也很喜欢写关于数学的杂文,他给青年数学家写的career advise(职业建议)写的非常详细,而一篇观点类的文章,What is good mathematics(什么是好的数学)被相当广泛的流传。然而我不打算在本文中过多的谈论他,——我以往已经谈过很多了。我只想提到一点,在我跟他父亲Billy Tao先生通信的时候,Billy经常向我提到“幸福”是人生的目的。我一开始不理解如果“仅仅”是追求幸福,Tao怎么可能在事业上取得这样的成就,后来我慢慢明白了一件事,正是“幸福”,那种发自内心的满足感以及某种意义上的成就感,给人带来非常正面的力量,而正面的力量是可以非常强大的。是的,我认为,“幸福”本身就是令人拥有成就感的一项伟业。 [...]
6 February, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Quora
Is paying $100,000 for masters degree in Statistics a reasonable investment?…
A good grad school (and good environment) can change a lot about your life, way more than you can think !!! Whether it is worth it depends on what you want from there. I have heard this about MIT, that it is like drinking from a fire house. Quite liter…
18 March, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Terrence Tao’s Career Advice page | Enlighten and Evolve
[...] getting ready to move to the next part of your educational or working career, check this page out! What a great resource, and not just for math [...]
20 March, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Mark T.
I work in insurance, and from my experience our industry drools overs math majors, especially those who have statistics backgrounds, which enables you to move forward with actuarial exams. If there are math majors out there who just arent sure about things, research actuarial science because there is a HUGE market for it.
4 April, 2012 at 4:20 am
Graduate Jobs
This is a good website if you want help writing your CV. They always have great demand for maths students or similar courses. Check them out they really helped me.
11 April, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Marty
Dr. Tao: Steven Krantz has given some good advice to young mathematicians in various places. He’s written a book or two about it, e.g.:
A Mathematician's Survival Guide: Graduate School and Early Career Development
Here’s some free advice he published a few years ago:
http://www.math.wustl.edu/~sk/books/newsurv.pdf
27 May, 2012 at 9:31 am
Luqing
I translated it into Chinese:http://blog.sciencenet.cn/home.php?mod=space&uid=604208&do=blog&quickforward=1&id=575653
18 June, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Advice (collected) by a young mathematician « regularize
[...] we are at it, there is this must-read page by Terry Tao: This page on his blog (and its outdated old version here) which also features great [...]
27 June, 2012 at 9:22 am
D. Sarmah
Dear Prof. Tao,
I am presently doing my B.Sc. (undergraduate) in Mathematics in India. And studying Physics as a subsidiary subject. According to the University rule, every student have to do a research project in the summer vacation. So sir, I would like to have your advice on possible project topic on Applied/Theoretical Mathematics as my knowledge is limited. I am interested in Gravitation, Black-hole, Differential equation, 3-dimentional curve….etc.
Your valuable advice will help me to a greater extent.
28 July, 2012 at 8:48 pm
To Qual or to fall « Derek Zhang's OR Thinking
[...] discussion about what it means by the qualifying exam. Some general career advice by Terrace [...]
14 September, 2012 at 4:16 am
Rajeswari
Hi
currently am working in a mnc as a research analyst.
i have 4 years of experience in e publishing industry. but am not interested in that field. am looking for a career change.
am interested in live projects
direct interaction with customers
what kind of profile i can choose
my graduation is Msc IT
22 September, 2012 at 6:36 am
anjana
sir i have completed my B.C.A and right now persuing for M.C.A .i have a keen intrest in I.T sectors .so plz advice me some part time courses which i can pursue to enhance my computer skills.
27 September, 2012 at 7:59 am
kulturystyka sklep
I am a student doing B-Tech 3rd semester(8 semester course) at National Institute of Technology,calicut,india.i have a ardent interest in mathematics escpecially algebra nd analysis.I like to pursue mathematics research after my btech degree.pls do advice me on how and where to do it?
1 October, 2012 at 2:01 am
jak szybko schudnac
It’s interesting advice, but it dones’t work in all countries.
6 October, 2012 at 1:49 am
Things to stop doing « Noncommutative Analysis
[...] lots of advice pages out there, for example (my favorites) this extremely broad, kind and generous page by Terry Tao or this very focused one by Doron Zeilberger. But like any advice giver who respects [...]
23 October, 2012 at 10:40 am
ball
I am a student doing B-Tech 3rd semester
31 October, 2012 at 2:13 am
Anonymous
i m a student of 10th class
3 November, 2012 at 11:48 am
Some advices to young mathematicians « Research and Lecture notes
[...] The blog of Terence Tao is also an excellent source for advices on writing mathematics and academic careers. [...]
29 November, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Anonymous
Hi, I was wondering if I could ask you a question. I’m not sure who to ask, but your blog seems very active so I thought I’d try here – if you don’t mind of course.
I’m about to start a PhD in a few months. However, recently I’ve been having some (well, a lot, to be honest) self-doubts.
I like maths a lot, and in my undergraduate I worked very hard to understand things. That I worked hard is a good thing, obviously, but I’m also thinking that it may also be a sign that I’m not clever enough to actually do things once things get too hard. For example, in one part of your blog you talk about the “three stages” (essentially, pre-undergraduate, undergraduate, and graduate and beyond – if I’m not mistaken). I feel I made the transition from the first to the second, through hard work, but I can’t help but doubt my ability to move to the third. I’ve been looking through graduate books in preparation for my PhD and I find them really difficult. I can struggle through them and get by from line to line, but I know that I struggle to see the big picture. Let alone the idea that I can actually contribute anything. I feel that I’m simply not clever enough (never mind how much I work) to gain a sufficiently deep understanding of something to be able to come up with any sort of original work.
The thought of not attempting to do a PhD seems very sad to me though, because I really do want to do one and I want a career researching maths. But I’m just so scared of failing. I just fear there is a threshold of natural intelligence required and I don’t have that.
6 December, 2012 at 9:41 am
Guest
Dr. Tao, I’m a graduate student in Physics, and am probably guessing you’ve got this question innumerable times before. Do you think the character Charlie on the TV series “Numbers” is based in whole or part on you, especially with you being based on the west coast like the shows setting? I tried searching your blogs for previous posts related to this question.
respectfully,
6 December, 2012 at 10:05 am
Terence Tao
No; according to http://www.maa.org/devlin/devlin_02_05.html , the character is loosely based on Richard Feynman. (Although my former colleague, Tony Chan, was one of the consultants for the pilot.)
7 December, 2012 at 11:11 pm
andrescaicedo
Gary Lorden from Caltech, another consultant for the show, used to say that “based on Richard Feynman” meant that they copied his hairstyle.
6 December, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Max
Hello,
I don’t come from a wealthy family and was “obligated” by my parents to study computer science. I am currently doing my master’s degree and only go to finals because I don’t really enjoy CS andI don’t find it “challenging” so I have a lot of free time, I am teaching myself theoretical physics which inspired me to also study the mathematics behind it in depth. Would you happen to know references to learn from ? I can’t find many online courses for mathematics…
Also do you think it’s possible for someone who didn’t study a particular area to be accepted by scientific community ?
Thanks,
Max
30 December, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Starting and finishing tasks |
[...] I also enjoy talking with others about how they work. A nice draft of similar ideas is available on Terry Tao’s blog. I will probably re-state some of the exact same [...]
10 January, 2013 at 11:12 am
Terry Tao on Mathematical Career | enjoymathematics
[...] Terry Tao on Mathematical Career [...]
24 March, 2013 at 12:15 pm
Rami
Dear Professor Tao, I have to choose between two graduate schools that accepted me for their PHD program in pure math. Each one of them contains a researcher who is very strong in the field that I want. What should I do next? Is a considerable difference in the rankings between the two enough as a criterion? (20 US news and 35 NRC, one appears in the top 100 QS subject ranking in math, the other doesn’t.). Or should I take other criteria into consideration? I should note that one of them has a large department, while the other has a small department, and both contain outstanding faculty members.
31 March, 2013 at 2:55 am
Lili
Dear Professor Tao,
I am studying Mathematics(a master’s program). I intend to continue my studies in math in U.S . The university in which I am studying now is different from my undergraduate university.Things are really harder here.
I need some recommendation letters for my applying process and this is what has ruined my life!
I talked to one of my professors to be my adviser and to write one of the recommendation letters for me at the end of the work.He asked me to work on some material in a determined period of time.I started working but it was harder than what I imagined.At the same time I ran into some problems in my individual life.Now, that determined time has finished , I haven`t finished that material and I had bad grades last semester.My professor says I should work harder. I have a lot of work I haven`t done.
I loved mathematics very much but now I don`t enjoy it.I can not concentrate on what I study. Studying just for letters of recommendation or trying to write a paper just to get admission of a good university is very boring.I can`t enjoy mathematics anymore .And I can`t even progress in my work.
How can I change this situation? How can I make progress? And could I find strong letters of recommendation in 9 months?
I think some of my undergraduate professors could write good (not strong) letters for me.
6 May, 2013 at 12:35 pm
Role of a Statistician | James Li
[...] advice is probably very biased towards a statistician geared towards industry. See Terrence Tao and J. Steele and Greg Mankiw for more advice for aspiring [...]
20 May, 2013 at 6:31 pm
the perfect pointe book
First off I would like to say wonderful blog!
I had a quick question in which I’d like to ask if you don’t mind.
I was curious to know how you center yourself and clear
your thoughts prior to writing. I’ve had trouble clearing my thoughts in getting my thoughts out. I do take pleasure in writing however it just seems like the first 10 to 15 minutes are lost just trying to figure out how to begin. Any ideas or tips? Cheers!