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	<description>Updates on my research and expository papers, discussion of open problems, and other maths-related topics.  By Terence Tao</description>
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		<title>By: fizzix &#187; Parenting Advice</title>
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		<dc:creator>fizzix &#187; Parenting Advice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mathematician) pointed me to one of the most important elements of parenting via his blog archive: one should praise one’s children for their efforts and achievements (which they can control), [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Evan Roey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan Roey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a precious advice!  We should interact with our children for his/her better future! 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lifestylerescue.com/experts/education-advice&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Education Analyst&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a precious advice!  We should interact with our children for his/her better future!<br />
<a href="http://www.lifestylerescue.com/experts/education-advice" rel="nofollow">Education Analyst</a></p>
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		<title>By: Parenting advice &#171; Gavorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parenting advice &#171; Gavorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mathematician) pointed me to one of the most important elements of parenting via his blog archive: one should praise one’s children for their efforts and achievements (which they can control), [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with this wholeheartedly.  As a parent of a mathematics prodigy who began college at 11 and continues to thrive at 13 - many things you&#039;ve pointed out rings true in our experience as well.

Which is exactly why I&#039;ve encouraged other parents not to &quot;hang their hats&quot; on only one approach.  It is more a delicate blending of resources, teaching methods, etc. when engaging gifted youth - particularly profoundly gifted youth.

Hence, so many adults who were gifted as youth almost always express disappointment with the &quot;gifted schools&quot; they attended or with some of the gifted programs in which their children now participate.

Thank you for affirming my parental stance on the matter and I will be sharing this article with my clients, peers and those who call themselves experts in the field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with this wholeheartedly.  As a parent of a mathematics prodigy who began college at 11 and continues to thrive at 13 &#8211; many things you&#8217;ve pointed out rings true in our experience as well.</p>
<p>Which is exactly why I&#8217;ve encouraged other parents not to &#8220;hang their hats&#8221; on only one approach.  It is more a delicate blending of resources, teaching methods, etc. when engaging gifted youth &#8211; particularly profoundly gifted youth.</p>
<p>Hence, so many adults who were gifted as youth almost always express disappointment with the &#8220;gifted schools&#8221; they attended or with some of the gifted programs in which their children now participate.</p>
<p>Thank you for affirming my parental stance on the matter and I will be sharing this article with my clients, peers and those who call themselves experts in the field.</p>
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		<title>By: Hanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi I would also be very interested in reading Billy Tao&#039;s article. In my opinion behind the ‘gifted child&#039; there will be lots of parent child interaction and encouragement to the natural curiosity that is inherent in any small child. So if someone has a copy of this article and would email it to me I would be very grateful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi I would also be very interested in reading Billy Tao&#8217;s article. In my opinion behind the ‘gifted child&#8217; there will be lots of parent child interaction and encouragement to the natural curiosity that is inherent in any small child. So if someone has a copy of this article and would email it to me I would be very grateful.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Vos Post</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Vos Post</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On 5 June 2009 I received my Charter College of Education, California State
University, Los Angeles, &quot;Directed Teaching/Demonstration of Competencies Evaluation&quot; after 4 hours of lessons observed by a Supervisor. &quot;Exceeds Standards&quot; in Planning; Content Knowledge in Planning and Instruction; Written Plans; Student Reflection on Learning and Learning Processes; Uses of Instructional Technology; Record Keeping; Working With Culturally Diverse Populations.

University Supervisor Ron Sakoda adds: &quot;Professor Post&#039;s lesson plans include: California academic content standars, learning goals, lesson rational[e], and differentiated instruction for English language learners and gifted students. 

That&#039;s the challenge in secondary schools: to keep those who&#039;ve fallen behind able to catch up, while accelerating and engaging the ones who were ahead and would otherwise get bored.

Teaching is both a science and an art. They don&#039;t know how to teach teachers the art.  But the science is a fairly well known set of methodologies that vary in efficacy depending on the learning style and sensory modality of the student.  So, yes, I also would like to know Terry&#039;s Dad&#039;s approaches here.  We know what John von Neumann&#039;s Dad did for him, and then he for his daughter Marina...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 5 June 2009 I received my Charter College of Education, California State<br />
University, Los Angeles, &#8220;Directed Teaching/Demonstration of Competencies Evaluation&#8221; after 4 hours of lessons observed by a Supervisor. &#8220;Exceeds Standards&#8221; in Planning; Content Knowledge in Planning and Instruction; Written Plans; Student Reflection on Learning and Learning Processes; Uses of Instructional Technology; Record Keeping; Working With Culturally Diverse Populations.</p>
<p>University Supervisor Ron Sakoda adds: &#8220;Professor Post&#8217;s lesson plans include: California academic content standars, learning goals, lesson rational[e], and differentiated instruction for English language learners and gifted students. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the challenge in secondary schools: to keep those who&#8217;ve fallen behind able to catch up, while accelerating and engaging the ones who were ahead and would otherwise get bored.</p>
<p>Teaching is both a science and an art. They don&#8217;t know how to teach teachers the art.  But the science is a fairly well known set of methodologies that vary in efficacy depending on the learning style and sensory modality of the student.  So, yes, I also would like to know Terry&#8217;s Dad&#8217;s approaches here.  We know what John von Neumann&#8217;s Dad did for him, and then he for his daughter Marina&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Amand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Terrence - I would be interested in reading your fathers article about parents involvment in gifted education. have you got one in another format to put on this lovely  website :-) Tanks Amnda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Terrence &#8211; I would be interested in reading your fathers article about parents involvment in gifted education. have you got one in another format to put on this lovely  website :-) Tanks Amnda</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Vos Post</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Vos Post</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another of Terry Tao&#039;s threads is on whether one has to be a genius to do Math. Related to that is the question of metacognition by math students: do they think that their intelligence is a fixed resource, or one that can be increased by some strategy (which includes practice)?  Further, how does this belief correlate with performance?

I&#039;ve been interested in the decades of research by C.S. Dweck.  The first key paper being Dweck, C. S.: The role of expectations and attributions in the alleviation of learned helplessness. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, (1975), 31, 674-685.

If I may quote from
http://www.ncirl.ie/dynamic/File/Research/1st%20technical%20report_TH06.pdf

&quot;Dweck (1975) found that, following failure, many students improved when teachers stated that the students did not seem to be trying hard enough. This was especially true if the students believed that their failure was a result of lack of effort. Dweck states that effort explanations are readily
changeable; decisions about how much effort to expend are under personal control. By comparison, if a student believes that s/he simply does not have the ability and therefore that failure is beyond personal control, then the student will feel there is nothing much s/he can do
about it. Unfortunately, attributions for failure, practiced again and again, become self-fulfilling prophecies. After several years of practice, unwittingly reinforced by teachers’ hints about ability, student attributions for failure become resistant to change.&quot;

After some of my Math lessons in urban high schools, I give the students a survey which asks, among other things, if they believe that doing interesting work can make them &quot;smarter.&quot;  Those that think so seem to be the more motivated ones.

I also like the work of Carole Beal  (Professor of Cognitive Science, College of Social &amp; Behavioral Sciences, University of Arizona). For example:

Beal, C. R., Chiu, Y., Shaw, E., &amp; Vilhjamsson, H. (2005). Metacognitive reflection in ITS math problem solving. 

Abstract: High school students used a self-reflection feature integrated into a mathematics ITS to indicate what they found difficult about a math problem, and what insights were required to solve it. Results indicated that students could often identify what specific information would help them solve a problem, and could evaluate what was helpful and not helpful about the multimedia explanations. Future work will focus on the impact of self-reflection on students&#039; problem solving and transfer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another of Terry Tao&#8217;s threads is on whether one has to be a genius to do Math. Related to that is the question of metacognition by math students: do they think that their intelligence is a fixed resource, or one that can be increased by some strategy (which includes practice)?  Further, how does this belief correlate with performance?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been interested in the decades of research by C.S. Dweck.  The first key paper being Dweck, C. S.: The role of expectations and attributions in the alleviation of learned helplessness. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, (1975), 31, 674-685.</p>
<p>If I may quote from<br />
<a href="http://www.ncirl.ie/dynamic/File/Research/1st%20technical%20report_TH06.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncirl.ie/dynamic/File/Research/1st%20technical%20report_TH06.pdf</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Dweck (1975) found that, following failure, many students improved when teachers stated that the students did not seem to be trying hard enough. This was especially true if the students believed that their failure was a result of lack of effort. Dweck states that effort explanations are readily<br />
changeable; decisions about how much effort to expend are under personal control. By comparison, if a student believes that s/he simply does not have the ability and therefore that failure is beyond personal control, then the student will feel there is nothing much s/he can do<br />
about it. Unfortunately, attributions for failure, practiced again and again, become self-fulfilling prophecies. After several years of practice, unwittingly reinforced by teachers’ hints about ability, student attributions for failure become resistant to change.&#8221;</p>
<p>After some of my Math lessons in urban high schools, I give the students a survey which asks, among other things, if they believe that doing interesting work can make them &#8220;smarter.&#8221;  Those that think so seem to be the more motivated ones.</p>
<p>I also like the work of Carole Beal  (Professor of Cognitive Science, College of Social &amp; Behavioral Sciences, University of Arizona). For example:</p>
<p>Beal, C. R., Chiu, Y., Shaw, E., &amp; Vilhjamsson, H. (2005). Metacognitive reflection in ITS math problem solving. </p>
<p>Abstract: High school students used a self-reflection feature integrated into a mathematics ITS to indicate what they found difficult about a math problem, and what insights were required to solve it. Results indicated that students could often identify what specific information would help them solve a problem, and could evaluate what was helpful and not helpful about the multimedia explanations. Future work will focus on the impact of self-reflection on students&#8217; problem solving and transfer.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Stolzenburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara Stolzenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 02:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terence,
  Thank you for your blog and website-abounding with rich resources.   I just mailed the link to your blog on advice on gifted education to my staff.  Jackson High School in Mill Creek WA is a school of 2000+ students just 30 minutes N. of Seattle.  We have a staff of approx 90-100 amazing educators, working hard to provide a quality education for our pupils.  Your blog speaks directly to our goal of bringing each and every one to graduation prepared for the challenges of their post high school education and career.
  Sincerely,
  Barbara Stolzenburg
  JHS Teacher Librarian
  Mill Creek, WA  98012
  bstolzenburg@everettsd.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terence,<br />
  Thank you for your blog and website-abounding with rich resources.   I just mailed the link to your blog on advice on gifted education to my staff.  Jackson High School in Mill Creek WA is a school of 2000+ students just 30 minutes N. of Seattle.  We have a staff of approx 90-100 amazing educators, working hard to provide a quality education for our pupils.  Your blog speaks directly to our goal of bringing each and every one to graduation prepared for the challenges of their post high school education and career.<br />
  Sincerely,<br />
  Barbara Stolzenburg<br />
  JHS Teacher Librarian<br />
  Mill Creek, WA  98012<br />
  <a href="mailto:bstolzenburg@everettsd.org">bstolzenburg@everettsd.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Rosenfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Rosenfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 05:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a veteran educator, I very much agree with your advice about praising children for achievements as opposed to talent.  I always did something related to that with my own children and my students; I continually reminded them how many bright, talented people there are in the world and that virtually nobody could achieve challenging educational or career goals without dedication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a veteran educator, I very much agree with your advice about praising children for achievements as opposed to talent.  I always did something related to that with my own children and my students; I continually reminded them how many bright, talented people there are in the world and that virtually nobody could achieve challenging educational or career goals without dedication.</p>
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