Text of petition:
I believe that the proposed severe cuts to mathematics, statistics, and computing at the University of Southern Queensland (USQ) will do severe and permanent damage to the quality of education in maths and the sciences for USQ students, at a time when the need to support such education is both urgent and widely accepted in Australia at all levels. Service teaching alone, especially at reduced staff levels, cannot deliver the level of mathematics education that the students of USQ deserve. I urge the university administration to negotiate with the Department of Mathematics and Computing to find a compromise solution that will preserve the proven capability of this department to train students and teachers in the maths and sciences at the highest levels of quality.
Please sign this petition by leaving a comment at the very bottom of this web page stating your support for the text. It may be helpful if you include your name, title, and affiliation in your remarks.
For more information about the situation at USQ, as well as other ways in which you can help out, please see the main campaign page, as well as my editorial on this topic.
This online petition is part of a broader campaign that is also contacting the media and government officials for this cause. Your signing of this petition will help, not only in directly impressing upon USQ administrators, media, government officials, and others on the depth of support for mathematics, but also in encouraging those who will be impacted by these cuts to also speak out and to spread the word. Thanks in advance for your support, and please share the link to this petition to anyone else who may be interested. Mathematicians, scientists, engineers, journalists, students, administrators, Australians, non-Australians – all are more than welcome to sign. It is particularly vital to contact USQ students on this matter, as they have been largely excluded from the official consultation process by the USQ administration.
Any inquiries about this petition should be directed to Terence Tao, or left as a comment on the home page for this campaign. [In particular, if your comment does not first appear, it may have been caught by the automatic spam filters. - T.]
On 14 April, the last day of the consultation period set by the administration, the online petition was formally presented to the USQ administration and to local government officials. Since the petition has been a visible and public show of support for mathematics, statistics, and computing at USQ, we will continue to keep this petition active beyond this date as a demonstration of that ongoing support.
For the latest updates on the status of the campaign, see the end of my blog post on this topic.

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5 April, 2008 at 8:22 am
Peter Hall
The problems at USQ bring to a head the difficulties facing mathematical sciences departments right around Australia. For example, the suggestion that the teaching of mathematics and statistics can be safely limited to service courses is being raised in a number universities, and flies in the face of rapidly increasing demand for properly trained professionals in these areas.
To illustrate the issues involved, let me mention that in a submission to the 2006 review of mathematical sciences a major employer of mathematical scientists addressed the issue of training professional statisticians using service courses, which provide primarily problem-solving skills:
“We have noted a disturbing trend where some universities are placing too much emphasis on the practical application of statistical techniques…and leaving the student without a proper understanding of the underlying statistical principles. This leads to graduates who lack sufficient theory to understand the assumptions and limitations of the various techniques and hence are unable to extend the theory or apply it in new situations as required.”
These comments sum up well the problems caused by training professional mathematicians and statisticians by giving them only minimal problem-solving skills.
Finally, Terry, a word of thanks from all of us in Australia for your help in bringing the problems here to a wider audience. Your efforts are greatly appreciated.
Professor Peter Gavin Hall, Federation Fellow,
University of Melbourne.
5 April, 2008 at 10:27 am
Terence Tao
Thanks, Peter, for your support. It goes without saying that I also support this petition, for reasons described in
http://terrytao.wordpress.com/2008/04/05/please-help-support-mathematics-at-the-university-of-southern-queensland/
Terence Tao, FAA FRS FAustMS
Professor, University of California, Los Angeles
5 April, 2008 at 11:01 am
Robert Harper
I endorse the petition as stated and urge the Australian government to reconsider.
Robert Harper, Professor
Computer Science Department
Carnegie Mellon University
5 April, 2008 at 11:19 am
Andrew McIntyre
Andrew McIntyre
Mathematics
Bennington College, Bennington VT
5 April, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Anonymous
Marco Isopi, Professor
Mathematics
University of Rome “la Sapienza” (Italy)
5 April, 2008 at 12:34 pm
damidami
Damián Silvestre
Universidad Tecnológica Nacional (Argentina)
5 April, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Ian A. Mason
Well I’ll keep my fingers crossed, but after watching what
happened (& still happens) at UNE, I have very little hope
that these small Australian regional universities will
remain universites except perhaps in name alone.
5 April, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Richard Samworth
I’m very sorry to hear that the situation regarding academic funding cuts in Australia appears to have deteriorated even since my last visit. I strongly support this petition.
5 April, 2008 at 2:06 pm
tumur
Tsogtgerel Gantumur, postdoc
Mathematics, UCSD
5 April, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Anonymous
Thank you, Prof Tao, for alerting us to this situation. I hope something can be done to avert this. Should we perhaps write directly to the people involved?
Daniel Tokarev
post-doc,
Uni of Melbourne
5 April, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Roberta
Roberta Albuquerque
Mathematics
Universidade Federal de Pernambuco, Brazil
5 April, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Mark Meckes
Mark W. Meckes
Dept. of Mathematics
Case Western Reserve University
Cleveland, Ohio, USA
5 April, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Tony Guttmann
Unfortunately this is only the latest example in a saga of cuts in mathematical sciences staffing, primarily at regional universities, but also at some of the larger, more established universities, my own included. To some extent this is an inevitable result of the market forces driven educational industry that is slowly replacing what was once a world class tertiary educational system. It is to be hoped that the new Federal government will move quickly to reverse this trend, and that universities will once again revert to their priority of hiring high quality academics, so that there will once agin be time and opportunity to offer top quality teaching, as well as conducting research and engaging with end-users, rather than adding to the already overblown administrative ranks.
5 April, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Bradley Efron
Cutting back on mathematics to save money is like the
farmer’s family eating the seed corn. I guess young
people in South Queensland will have to go elsewhere
if they’re interested in mathematics, statistics, or
computing. And I thought Australia had progressed
beyond third-world thinking….
5 April, 2008 at 3:38 pm
DanF
I know I’m an odd-ball here, but I also support the petition above — as an amateur mathematician (I didn’t quite finish my minor in math, but still enjoy reading about it and playing around/programming). And as someone in industry that recognizes the value of mathematically savvy workers. I should have been an engineer :P
Dan Farmer
Analyst
Dell, Inc.
Reno, NV USA
5 April, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Barry Jay
I endorse the petition.
5 April, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Danny Calegari
As an Australian expatriate mathematician, I agree with Terry’s sentiments,
both in general and specific terms. I also endorse this petition.
Danny Calegari
Richard Merkin Distinguished Professor of Mathematics
California Institute of Technology
5 April, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Andrew Robinson
I endorse this petition.
Andrew Robinson
Senior Lecturer, Applied Statistics
The University of Melbourne
5 April, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Barry Hughes
I was the Executive Director of the National Strategic Review of Mathematical Sciences Research in Australia, which reported in December 2006. That review documented clearly the sustained neglect and chronic underfunding of the mathematical sciences by governments, and the lack of support for these disciplines within universities in the internal competition for resources. It was starkly demonstrated that unless the situation is rapidly turned around, a severe and perhaps permanent destruction of the nation’s mathematics and statistics infrastructure looms. Despite some modest but very welcome additional federal government money received since the review, the profession continues to decline as the full value of the additional federal support fails to be passed on to the relevant departments, and the higher level administrators at a number of universities continue to pursue policies that do not support the profession. The recent developments at the University of Southern Queensland, in particular, deserve the strongest condemnation and should be vigorously opposed.
5 April, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Walter Neumann
As another Australian expatriate mathematician, I am saddened by the damage I have seen done to what was a world class tertiary education system in Australia. In 2007 it appeared that the government, at least, had finally heard the warnings of the National Strategic Review of Mathematical Sciences and there appeared to be hope that things might be changing. But the situation at USQ, just a particularly egregious diversion of funds earmarked to stem the damage, leads to doubt. The damage is not only in the decline of the level of mathematical education, but also in the continued loss of trained researchers who decide to seek more welcoming shores. I support the petition.
Walter Neumann
Professor of Mathematics
Barnard College – Columbia University
New York
5 April, 2008 at 5:51 pm
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5 April, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Daniel Ford
As another ex-pat mathematician, I’d like to say thanks to Terry for bringing this to our attention.
I strongly endorse this petition.
Dr. Daniel Ford
Statistician
Google Inc.
Mountain View, CA, USA
5 April, 2008 at 5:52 pm
Greg Stevenson
I cannot express my support for the petition strongly enough.
Greg Stevenson
PhD Candidate
Australian National University
5 April, 2008 at 6:14 pm
Anonymous
I think, a similar situation is happening in every country nowadays, due to the fact that demand and supply has been a main issue, which should not happen in an intelligent society, as we think.
But unfortuanately, what people can’t understand is that any developemnt of science or technology is soley driven by mathematical tools. These days there are enough mathematicians who can sacrifice their life towards the development of science. But what would happen after another 2 – 3 decades, there won’t be anyone who can handle the new tools of science, think differently from others, come up with new ideas no one ever think of, since they don’t have stronge background of mathematics, which enhance the thinking ability and creativity.
Once they understand the need of mathematics, they may be too late to do that.
Udita Katugampola
PhD Student
Southern Illinois University
Carbondale, IL
USA
(Past Student of University of Colombo – Sri Lanka)
5 April, 2008 at 6:16 pm
udita katugampola
I think, a similar situation is happening in every country nowadays, due to the fact that demand and supply has been a main issue, which should not happen in an intelligent society, as we think.
But unfortuanately, what people can’t understand is that any developemnt of science or technology is soley driven by mathematical tools. These days there are enough mathematicians who can sacrifice their life towards the development of science. But what would happen after another 2 – 3 decades, there won’t be anyone who can handle the new tools of science, think differently from others, come up with new ideas no one ever think of, since they don’t have stronge background of mathematics, which enhance the thinking ability and creativity.
Once they understand the need of mathematics, they may be too late to do that.
Udita Katugampola
PhD Student
Southern Illinois University
Carbondale, IL
USA
(Past Student of University of Colombo – Sri Lanka)
5 April, 2008 at 6:44 pm
Christoph Thiele
To be competitive nowadays, a society needs a strong mathematical
culture. The proposed cuts do not appear to strengthen the mathematical
culture in Australia.
Christoph Thiele,
Professor, UCLA
5 April, 2008 at 6:46 pm
Peter McNamara
I wholly endorse this petition
Peter McNamara
PhD Candidate in Mathematics
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
5 April, 2008 at 6:57 pm
Ernesto
I also endorse this petition.
Ernesto F. Galvão
Professor, Institute of Physics, Universidade Federal Fluminense
(UFF, Niterói, Brazil).
5 April, 2008 at 6:59 pm
juliawolf
I strongly support this petition.
Julia Wolf
Member, School of Mathematics
Institute for Advanced Study, Princeton NJ
5 April, 2008 at 7:06 pm
J. Hyam Rubinstein
The decline in mathematics and statistics is alarming and needs urgent action, with universities accepting responsibility. To arrest the decline, we need to get well-trained mathematical scientists into teaching in schools and if regional universities abandon their programs, this will not happen. USQ has a fine department, which is earning its keep by service teaching, as is the model throughout the world. To be penalised in this way is unreasonable and unfair. Australia has a large and growing shortage of engineers and without strong mathematical sciences, this will only get worse. I support this petition very strongly.
Hyam Rubinstein,
Chair, National Committee for the Mathematical Sciences in Australia.
Professor, University of Melbourne
5 April, 2008 at 7:30 pm
Charles
Charles Siegel
PhD Candidate in Mathematics
University of Pennsylvania
5 April, 2008 at 7:32 pm
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5 April, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Jan de Gier
I strongly support his petition. It is my hope that the new political powers in Australia, and with them the university administrators, very quickly realize that mathematics and statistics is much more than the teaching and acquisition of tools to solve, say, engineering or financial problems. It is the skill for developing new tools that is lost with the disappearance of maths researchers and maths departments, and what will have Australia lagging the rest of the world in innovation for generations.
5 April, 2008 at 7:53 pm
John Armstrong
I support the petition. However, I fear it won’t make any difference. If the administrators are so blinkered as to even consider this course of action, then what does the word of an extremely-junior faculty member at an American university who’s never set foot on their continent matter? Here’s to tilting at windmills.
John Armstrong
Assistant Professor
Tulane University
New Orleans, LA, USA
5 April, 2008 at 8:03 pm
louisyangliu
I strongly support this petition for saving Maths at USQ out of the difficult situation.
Louis Yang Liu
PhD Student
University of Georgia
5 April, 2008 at 8:05 pm
Simon Rubinstein-Salzedo
I strongly support this petition.
Simon Rubinstein-Salzedo
PhD Candidate in Mathematics
Stanford University
5 April, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Scott
I endorse the petition.
Scott Aaronson
Assistant Professor, Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
MIT
5 April, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Owen Jones
I endorse this petition
Owen Jones
Senior Lecturer
Dept of Maths and Stats
University of Melbourne
5 April, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Anonymous
Investment in high-quality education in mathematics, statistics, and computing for all students will pay for itself many times over; computer chips and high-definition televisions, mobile communication, search engines, etc., are just a handful of the tangible benefits we have seen that wouldn’t be possible without investments in basic education in the mathematical, statistical, and computing sciences.
I strongly support this petition.
D. Sivakumar
Research Scientist
Google
Mountain View, CA, USA
5 April, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Anonymous
I very strongly support this petition.
Tyler Neylon (math PhD from Courant Institute)
Software Engineer, Google
5 April, 2008 at 10:01 pm
ErdosPuskás
I endorse this petition.
Johan
Undergrad
University of Memphis
5 April, 2008 at 10:14 pm
Benjamin Rubinstein
I strongly support this petition. Having benefited greatly from an Australian undergraduate education in mathematics, I am saddened to hear about the present crisis at USQ. Diverting sorely needed funding, publicly earmarked for mathematics & statistics, to University administration or teaching in other fields, is lamentable. I use mathematics & statistics daily, in all aspects of my studies at Berkeley and in employment at companies such as Google. The same is true of friends in the most practical of areas within Electrical Engineering & Computer Sciences at Berkeley, which enjoy high levels of industry and U.S. government funding; and for friends working in Silicon Valley. Australia will significantly lose its ability to innovate if mathematics & statistics at institutions such as USQ are allowed to deteriorate further. I urge Australia’s policy makers to head the concerns expressed in this petition. Please, gives Australian maths & stats a fair go.
Benjamin Rubinstein
PhD Student in Electrical Engineering & Computer Sciences,
University of California, Berkeley
5 April, 2008 at 10:55 pm
François Loeser
I strongly support this petition.
François Loeser
Professor
Department of Mathematics
Ecole Normale Supérieure
Paris, France
5 April, 2008 at 11:46 pm
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6 April, 2008 at 12:02 am
Cheryl Praeger
I strongly support this petition.
At a time when even the Australian government has recognised the acute shortage of well-trained mathematical scientists in the country, it is very sad, and short-sighted that USQ moves to decimate its mathematics training capability.
Cheryl E Praeger
Federation Fellow, University of Western Australia
6 April, 2008 at 12:21 am
Aurore Delaigle
I am very sorry to read that the situation for Mathematics is getting even worse than it already is, and I strongly support this petition.
Aurore Delaigle
University of Bristol, UK
6 April, 2008 at 12:57 am
Michael Cowling
As a recently expatriated Australian mathematician, I too support this petition. I am afraid that university administrators in Australia are only interested in the short term financial implications of what they do, and are not aware or interested in the long term health of academe.
Michael Cowling
Mason Professor of Pure Mathematics
University of Birmingham
6 April, 2008 at 1:09 am
Mike Titterington
A strong national reservoir of competence in the logical thinking and numeracy that higher education and research in mathematics and statistics provide is an essential resource for any modern nation, and this manifestation of short-sightedness is both inexplicable and distressing. I strongly support this petition.
Mike Titterington
Professor of Statistics
University of Glasgow
Scotland
6 April, 2008 at 1:22 am
Nitin Rughoonauth
I provide my full and earnest support to this commendable petition of Prof Tao. As a Mauritian student who received a world-class undergraduate education in mathematics and physics in Australia, I am saddened to hear about the deteriorating situation concerning mathematics education there. I am grateful to Prof Tao for informing us about the urgency of the matter.
Pour l’honneur de l’esprit humain! [Jean Dieudonné]
Nitin C. Rughoonauth
Graduate student in Theoretical & Mathematical Physics
Arnold Sommerfeld Center for Theoretical Physics
University of Munich, GERMANY
6 April, 2008 at 1:36 am
Elizabeth Billington
I strongly support this petition.
Elizabeth Billington
Associate Professor
The University of Queensland
6 April, 2008 at 1:41 am
Anonymous
I agree with this petition and urge the USQ administration to reconsider.
Brendan McKay
Professor of Computer Science
ANU
6 April, 2008 at 1:41 am
Anonymous
Australia desperately needs more not fewer well trained mathematical minds.
Cuts such as those proposed at USQ beconme self-fullfilling prophesies.
Jonathan Borwein
Canada Research Chair
Dalhousaie University
and Visiting Prof Laureate
University of Newcastle
6 April, 2008 at 1:49 am
Yalcin Kaya
I strongly support this petition.
Yalcin Kaya
School of Mathematics and Statistics
University of South Australia
6 April, 2008 at 2:01 am
Alexander Isaev
I strongly support the petition. It has been proved over and over again that reducing mathematics to the service component alone severely damages the university’s research potential. Doing so does a lot more harm to the university than the savings that it brings.
Assoc. Prof. Alexander Isaev
Department of Mathematics
Australian National University
6 April, 2008 at 2:02 am
Brian A. Davey
Only last year we thought that Australia had finally turned the corner as far as mathematics at university level is concerned. The situation at USQ shows we were wrong.
I strongly support this petition.
Brian Davey
Reader and Associate Professor
La Trobe University
6 April, 2008 at 2:06 am
Ramon Esteban-Romero
I support this petition, too.
Best regards,
–
Ramon Esteban-Romero
Departament de Matemàtica Aplicada
Institut Universitari de Matemàtica Pura i Aplicada
Universitat Politècnica de València
València, Spain
6 April, 2008 at 2:07 am
Ian Doust
I strongly support this petition.
Ian Doust
Associate Professor
School of Mathematics and Statistics
University of New South Wales
Chair, Program Review Committee
Australian Mathematical Society
6 April, 2008 at 2:12 am
Anonymous
I strongly support the petition.
Michael Payne
Graduate of Monash University
Current graduate student Berlin Mathematical School (TU Berlin)
6 April, 2008 at 2:22 am
Scott Wiggins
Dear Professor Tao,
Thank you for setting up this petition.
As a USQ postgraduate maths student, I strongly support this petition but fear it may not be enough to prevent these proposed cut-backs.
I feel that the Howard government’s decision to give universities additional maths funding came as too little, far too late – the damage had already been done by their lack of investment in higher education and the fee-hiking Nelson reforms. These things have ultimately forced universities to significantly reduce the number of programs and services they can offer. Programs containing low enrolments are now deemed “un-popular,” regardless of their actual importance.
It’s a sad era when education has become too concerned with economic viability and not enough on the things it should be all about. I sincerely hope that these changes are not replicated by other universities which will only exacerbate the nation’s mathematical skills shortages, particularly in my area of high school teaching.
Scott Wiggins,
MSc (Maths/Stats) Student (USQ)
Secondary Maths Teacher.
6 April, 2008 at 2:23 am
Neil Cameron
I strongly support this petition
Neil Cameron
Former Head (retired)
Department of Mathematics & Statistics
Monash University
6 April, 2008 at 2:30 am
Grant Keady
I strongly support this petition.
keady@maths.uwa.edu.au
6 April, 2008 at 2:31 am
Ben Goldys
I strongly support this petition
6 April, 2008 at 2:32 am
Graham Wood
I worked from 1994-1998 at Central Queensland University as foundation chair of mathematics, endeavouring to build up mathematics and statistics. It can be done, and there is a demand for graduates, but it must have strong university support. It has not had that at CQU in recent years and the maths/stats programme there is now largely finished, a loss for Central Queensland development.
SQU is now following suit – this would be a double blow for Queensland. I strongly support the petition.
6 April, 2008 at 2:39 am
Walter Bloom
I fully support this petition. The drift away from the Mathematical Sciences as evidenced by the proposed cuts at USQ is very short-sighted and will do Australia immeasurable harm. Already the country is suffering a severe skills-shortage, particularly evident in both Queensland and Western Australia. With the concomitant decline in secondary school education, it will require skilled and knowledgeable teachers to train students in technical areas like Engineering, and teaching the required mathematical knowledge is particularly difficult for people outside the Mathematical Sciences. The country needs more trained Mathematics teachers at both the school and university level, not fewer.
Walter R. Bloom
Professor of Mathematics
Murdoch University
6 April, 2008 at 2:48 am
J. J. Koliha
I fully support the petition.
Associate Professor J. J. Koliha
Department of Mathematics and Statistics
The University of Melbourne
Melbourne VIC 3010
AUSTRALIA
6 April, 2008 at 3:06 am
Pedro Poitevin
I strongly support the petition.
Pedro Poitevin
Assistant Professor
Mathematics
Salem State College
6 April, 2008 at 3:16 am
John Henstridge
What is happening at USQ is the tip of the iceberg for mathematics in Australia. The cutbacks and the subsequent lack of good graduates in the mathematical sciences are already a constraint on business where the unique skills of properly trained mathematicians are needed. I see it as the biggest single constraint on my company’s future and I see it in many others, particularly in the biomedical and mining areas.
I support the petition
Dr John Henstridge
Managing Director
Data Analysis Australia
6 April, 2008 at 3:19 am
Anonymous
I endorse the petition.
Larry Wasserman
Professor, Department of Statistics
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA , USA
6 April, 2008 at 3:25 am
Igor Shparlinski
I strongly support this petition and hope a reasonable solution will be found.
Igor Shparlinski
Australian Professorial Fellow, FFA
Macquarie University
6 April, 2008 at 3:26 am
Mitch Wheat
I support the petition as stated and strongly urge the Australian government to reconsider.
Mitch Wheat
Software Developer, GAustAMS
Perth
Western Australia
6 April, 2008 at 3:44 am
James Franklin
I strongly support the petition. USQ’s taking the Federal Government’s money for mathematics and statistics at the same time as cutting those disciplines is a deeply cynical act.
6 April, 2008 at 4:05 am
Georg Gottwald
I strongly support the petition.
Georg Gottwald
University of Sydney
6 April, 2008 at 4:22 am
Derek Buchanan
I support this petition. Service teaching is indeed inadequate. Putting philistines in charge of schools and universities has never been such a great idea, but this sort of thing is inevitable if they are put in charge.
Derek Buchanan
Mathematics Teacher
Taylors College, Sydney.
6 April, 2008 at 4:25 am
Mark Weber
As an Australian expat mathematician, with unfortunately a very pessimistic view for the future of Australian mathematics because of situations just like this one, I strongly support this petition.
Mark Weber
6 April, 2008 at 4:29 am
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
Lyla Wang
NIEHS
6 April, 2008 at 4:29 am
Bary Cox
I support the petition above.
Barry Cox,
postdoc
School of Mathematics and Applied Statistics
University of Wollongong
6 April, 2008 at 5:01 am
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6 April, 2008 at 5:06 am
Andrew Bassom
I strongly support this petition. Recent reviews and the increase in central funding for the mathematical and statistical sciences recognise the crucial role these subjects should be playing in the future of the country. For USQ to be proposting to cut back in this way is quite unbelievable.
Andrew Bassom
Professor of Applied Mathematics
Unversity of Western Australia
6 April, 2008 at 5:08 am
ulfarsson
I support the petition.
Henning Arnor Ulfarsson
Graduate Student in Mathematics
Brown University
6 April, 2008 at 5:18 am
Claire Tomesch
I strongly support this petition.
Claire Tomesch
PhD Student in Mathematics
University of Chicago
6 April, 2008 at 5:23 am
Simon Byrne
As an expatriate graduate student, it has been quite enlightening to witness the creative potential in a well resourced mathematics department. There are not going to be any easy ways to reverse the years of neglect, but closing departments is clearly a step in the wrong direction.
Simon Byrne
Graduate student
Cambridge, UK
6 April, 2008 at 5:54 am
phil howlett
I support the retention of the mathematics courses and the retention of the Mathematics and Statistics Staff at USQ.
Phil Howlett,
Prof Industrial and Applied Mathematics, UniSA
Chair, ANZIAM.
6 April, 2008 at 5:55 am
Anonymous
The developement of mathematics in Australia is looked by many of us in countries of a similar economic potential as an example to follow. I hope administrators will reconsider before dealing such a serious blow to mathematics education.
Adolfo Quiros
Profesor Titular
Departamento de Matematicas
Universidad Autonoma de Madrid
Spain
6 April, 2008 at 6:44 am
Laureano Gonzalez_Vega
Laureano Gonzalez-Vega
Professor of Mathematics
Universidad de Cantabria, Spain
6 April, 2008 at 6:50 am
Juan Luis Varona
I strongly support this petition.
Juan Luis Varona
Departamento de Matemáticas y Computación
Universidad de La Rioja
Logroño, Spain
6 April, 2008 at 6:57 am
Anonymous
I strongly endorse this petition.
Alvaro Lozano Robledo
HC Wang Assistant Professor of Mathematics
Cornell University
6 April, 2008 at 7:04 am
Michael Lacey
Australia, as an outstanding place to live, could be central to
the world’s economy and its intellectual endeavors.
Reducing the nations educational infrastructure in a core discipline certainly
reduces the scientific workforce of the country.
I fully support the petition above.
Michael Lacey
Georgia Institute of Technology
6 April, 2008 at 7:11 am
Stephan Tillmann
I support this petition.
Stephan Tillmann
Research Fellow
Department of Mathematics and Statistics
The University of Melbourne
6 April, 2008 at 7:18 am
Hemanth Saratchandran
I definitely support this petition.
Hemanth Saratchandran
Undergraduate student,
Australian National University.
6 April, 2008 at 7:19 am
Joshua Batson
I strongly support this petition.
Joshua Batson
Yale University
6 April, 2008 at 7:22 am
Joseph Maher
I support this petition.
6 April, 2008 at 7:36 am
luis vega
Dear Terry, as you can imagine I strongly support this petition.
I can not stop thinking that if they have started
to do this in Australia what, or better which other country,
is coming next.
6 April, 2008 at 7:56 am
Hongseok Yang
I strongly support this petition.
Dr. Hongseok Yang
Lecturer,
Department of Computer Science,
Queen Mary, University of London, UK
6 April, 2008 at 8:19 am
Kendall Atkinson
I support this petition. Although money is tight, this is the wrong solution to the problem. What is proposed as a new major under the given rationale is reminiscent of a trade school approach to the mathematical sciences.
6 April, 2008 at 8:22 am
Owen Dearricott
I endorse Terry Tao’s considered remarks about the disgraceful and shortsighted neglect of funding and support for the mathematical sciences in Australia in general and at USQ in particular. I strongly encourage the new Rudd government to use their influence to help correct this sorry situation by intervening in this crisis.
Dr. Owen Dearricott
John Wesley Young Instructor
Dartmouth College, USA
6 April, 2008 at 8:28 am
Richard Melrose
I wonder if the administration of the University of Southern Queensland is committed to providing a proper education to their students. If they are, this is perhaps the worst sort of step they could take; even if it is an act of desperation born of difficult circumstances. The importance of a sound mathematical and scientific education is becoming ever more evident. It is also quite clear that such an education cannot be provided, in any meaningful way, by a purely `service’ department which is of necessity rigid. I believe USQ started as an Institute of Technology; it appears to be following the opposite trajectory to MIT.
I support this petition and hope that these very unwise steps will not be taken.
Richard Melrose
Simons Professor of Mathematics
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
6 April, 2008 at 8:52 am
Geordie
Another expat Australian mathematician supporting this petition.
Geordie Williamson,
Universität Freiburg, Germany.
6 April, 2008 at 8:53 am
Eric Chesebro
I support this petition.
6 April, 2008 at 9:13 am
Anthony Brockwell
I strongly support this petition.
I noticed Tony Guttman’s comments above, and I agree with him that this likely the result of market forces putting pressure on the system in Australia. However, what continues to amaze me is the extraordinary short-sightedness of the whole exercise. If one takes a bigger picture view (than the apparent view of university administrators around Australia), then it seems fairly clear that investing in development of mathematical/statistical talent is a good “business decision” for Australia.
Mathematics and statistics graduates play key roles in many sectors of the economy in the U.S., and I believe also in many other nations. For example, in the U.S., the finance industry is heavily reliant on analysts who must essentially have a Ph.D. in mathematics/statistics or some other similar qualification. Most hedge funds, if deprived of analysts, would be eaten alive by competitors. In information technology there is a similar story; companies like Google and Microsoft need (and hire) people with extremely good quantitative skills. Then there is the pharmaceutical industry, which also employs large numbers of statistics Ph.D.s. Although I don’t have exact numbers, I know that these three sectors alone have enormous demand for quantitatively-trained graduates.
I believe that in the long run, a nation that systematically cuts back an already depleted base of mathematics talent is not going to be particularly competitive in the areas I mention above. The trend needs to be reversed.
6 April, 2008 at 9:33 am
James Cook
I endorse this petition.
-James Cook
Graduate Student
Department of Mathematics
State University of New York at Stony Brook
6 April, 2008 at 9:41 am
Steve Sugden
The USQ situation is the latest and perhaps the most stark symptom of a university system in decay. Who will stop the rot? Not university administrators, as they are short-term dollar-driven. Not the vast majority of students as they, somewhat understandably, will take the easiest path. Administrators primarily concerned with short-term dollars give scant consideration to the longer term, nor for intrinsic values of science and mathematics, both aesthetic and practical. No, consumer is King, and if consumer (read student) does not want to pay for mathematics then it will be almost totally phased out. On top of this, the little that remains is so watered-down as to be almost useless for practical purposes. It remains as a necessary evil for essentially two reasons: to appease accreditation bodies, and to avoid the embarrassment of large numbers of total innumerates emerging from the pipeline. At my university, grade 9 mathematics is being taught as a university level subject and accredited as a unit toward the BCom.
As I reflect on all this, I cannot imagine that a petition of even tens of thousands would carry any weight. Why? Such a document may contain much eloquent, cogent and compelling logical arguments! However, unless expressed in dollar terms I cannot see any of these being successful. Since education is now a commodity, to be bought and sold, it is almost inevitable that disciplines as pure, noble and rigorous as mathematics be downtrodden; its remaining few practitioners reduced to academic prostitution (dictionary definition: “base or unworthy use, as of talent or ability”). This is already the situation in Australia and it is rapidly deteriorating. This is progress?
In reality, despite our “professional university managers” in Australia and their “business-based decisions”, the decimation of maths and science in Australia is a poor business decision for any university, and for many clear reasons. This is surely obvious to anyone with any reasoning ability, but conveniently ignored by decision makers. I expect that most of them do not even know what mathematics even IS: merely something that used to be thought necessary for the advancement and practice of science and engineering. But we can get by without all that now. After all, we have computers to do all that now, don’t we?
Despite my pessimism I fully support the petition.
Stephen J Sugden
Associate Professor
Bond University
6 April, 2008 at 9:49 am
Harvey Keynes
I strongly endorse this petition. As a frequent
academic visitor to Australia, the future directions
for Australia need a strong presence for mathematics
and mathematics education at all universities.
Harvey B Keynes
Professor, Mathematics
Director, Institute of Technology Center for Educational Programs
University of Minnesota
Minneapolis, Minnesota
6 April, 2008 at 9:54 am
Américo Tavares
Although not being a researcher in engineering, but as a retired engineer I do agree with the high “value of a mathematics education, taught by mathematicians” I had in the first years of my graduation (from 1968 to 1974) in electrical engineering by the IST (Instituto Superior Técnico / High Institute of Technology, that belongs to the Universidade Técnica de Lisboa / Technical University of Lisbon), Portugal. That fact was very important in providing me with the required tools and the technical problem solving skills required by the profession I had.
Américo Tavares, Portugal
6 April, 2008 at 9:59 am
D. G. FitzGerald
I regard myself as an external stakeholder of USQ as I rely on the statistics staff of USQ to host and support the Australian Schools Statistics Poster competition. This is a very valuable outreach activity to promote not just statistics as the name implies, but in fact a whole range of experimental, medical and social sciences that use statistical ideas. This is important, because our society and its future require evidence-based decision-making in all fields, and statistically-based thinking is crucial in the promotion of the concepts of evidence-based decision-making.
Universities, like other organisations, do need to retain flexibility and also need to plan their futures. I believe, however, that the draft plan that has been drawn up for USQ fails to take proper account of the existing strengths and assets of USQ in the area of mathematics and statistics, and the opportunity that USQ has, to support and build on its successes in those areas. It seems instead to be informed by ad-hockery, not a clear vision. One area where USQ could steal a march on other universities, is by backing the team that they have, and giving support to degree programs that really are practical and useful, including substantial and structured content in mathematics and statistics. I urge the decision-makers at USQ to critically examine the draft in this light.
6 April, 2008 at 10:07 am
John Sidles
Speaking as a quantum system engineer, our business absolutely depends on high-quality mathematics education. Please keep this and similar mathematical education programs going. They are a vital investment in the future, that returns large dividends to our children.
6 April, 2008 at 10:40 am
Cristian S. Calude
I endorse the petition.
Cristian S. Calude
Chair Professor
University of Auckland
6 April, 2008 at 10:43 am
Carter Schonwald
I, as an undergrad who understands the tremendous intrinsic and extrinsic value of a strong education in the sciences, support this petition
-Carter Schonwald
Yale University (undergrad)
6 April, 2008 at 10:57 am
Gretar Amazeen
I endorse the petition.
Gretar Amazeen
Phd student
University of Edinburgh
6 April, 2008 at 11:07 am
Menaka Lashitha Bandara
I’m standing 100% on this petition. I believe similar cuts had happened at Monash Uni slightly before I was an undergrad, and it completely wrecked the Uni. Things are starting to pick up again after Robert Bartnik became Professor of Pure Maths. I think it’s a disgrace that USQ is imposing these cuts, especially in light of the fact that the Federal Government has allocated more funding to mathematics and sciences.
Menaka Lashitha Bandara
BSc (Hons), BCompSc (Monash)
Soon to be PhD student
6 April, 2008 at 11:18 am
Tomas Recio
I support this petition. The issue here is just one instance of a general, universal, trend.
Indeed, Mathematic studies, Universities… the whole educational system should be considered as servant of society’s interests and its driving forces. But not only as servant: it should be also a queen… of human progress.
Tomas Recio
Professor of Mathematics
Universidad de Cantabria
Santander, Spain
6 April, 2008 at 11:58 am
Alberto Criado Cornejo
I want to back this petition. High quality scientifical education is a right of everyone and the whole society benefits from it. Best wishes :)
Alberto Criado Cornejo,
PhD Student,
Universidad Autónoma de Madrid,
Madrid, Spain.
6 April, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Subramanian Ramamoorthy
I endorse this petition.
Subramanian Ramamoorthy
Lecturer
School of Informatics
The University of Edinburgh, Scotland, UK
6 April, 2008 at 12:42 pm
David Meyer
I was recently asked to review a large ARC proposal, which reinforced my previous impression that the Australian government generously supports international quality research in mathematics and physics. This restructuring proposal for USQ is in appalling contrast. I endorse this petition.
David Meyer
Professor of Mathematics
University of California/San Diego
La Jolla, CA, USA
6 April, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Carlo Laing
I fully support this petition.
Carlo Laing
Massey University
Chair ANZIAM (NZ Branch)
6 April, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Rod Yager
This is yet another short-sighted move which continues to undermine the capacity of Australia to sustain its ability to provide an adequate education in an area which is universally recognized as vital to the future well-being of our nation.
I strongly support this petition.
Rodney I Yager
Senior Lecturer
Department of Mathematics
Macquarie University
6 April, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Adam Walsh
I support this petition. I am a school student who the department has helped through its programmes to educate those who hope one day to join the mathematics community.
I support this because I am thankful for what the department has given me, because of the undeniable importance of mathematics as the basis for all science and because I want there to be a mathematics community for me and other young people to join, when it is our time.
I thank Professor Tao and so many others for their efforts to “Rage against the dying of the light” in this corner of our world.
I sincerely hope that the decision makers will hear our petition.
Adam Walsh
Student
Tara, Queensland, Australia
6 April, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Ian Sloan
The importance of strong education in mathematics and statistics has never been greater. In that light the proposed move by USQ is a large move in the wrong direction. I strongly support the petition. Thanks Terrry for organising it.
Ian Sloan
Professor
University of New South Wales
6 April, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Anonymous
I support this petition.
L. Jacques
LTS2/EPFL Lausanne, Switzerland.
6 April, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Gaven J. Martin
An extremely shortsighted decision which will significantly undermine the quality of education offered by this “University”
6 April, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Emma Carberry
I fully support this petition, and hope that the short-sighted decision-making displayed by the University will not prevail.
Emma Carberry
Lecturer, University of Sydney.
6 April, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Alasdair McAndrew
A very short-sighted decision by USQ, and sending a very poor message about the support of mathematical sciences in this country. I strongly support this petition.
Alasdair McAndrew
Senior Lecturer
School of Computer Science and Mathematics
Victoria University,
PO Box 14428, Melbourne 8001 Australia
6 April, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Dr Pal Fekete
Australia keeps slipping further down the “quality of education” ladder. Why do we keep doing this to ourselves?
How is it that we let foolish administrators and not educators make these decisions?
6 April, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Prof B1ll Whiten
Extra funding for mathematics is being diverted and the result is to provide less resources for an essential area.
This is what is happening, while Maths & Stats are being promoted as a national priority necessary for the nations future.
Bill Whiten
University of Queensland
6 April, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Nazim Khan
Australia has for a long time talked about improving the level of science eduction. Unfortunately these have only been words. Science cannot be taught without Mathematics, and Mathematics and Statistics education has been suffering severely in high schools as well as universities.
we are producing at best mediocre and and at worse incompetent scientists and engineers. The number of people in the world who really understand how engineering works is becoming fewer and fewer, and one day there will be a mistake mad by someone that will lead to a disaster.
We need to act now so we can avoid such disasters. A good maths and stats education will make better engineers and scientists. Australia can lead the world in the area of science and engineering. And of course we need the next generation of Mathematicians and Statisticians to solve the new problems, so we can produce another Terry Tao!
6 April, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Jim MacDougall
I strongly support this petition.
This decision is very short-sighted. It is precisely the opposite to what the government has recently endorsed as the right direction for the development of Australia’s future development.
6 April, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Mark McGuinness
What a shocker. No Maths/Stats department can maintain a reasonable programme with only 6 academics, and USQ will find it hard to be taken seriously in Toowoomba with no mathematics major offered.
6 April, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Julie Clutterbuck
I support this petition.
Julie Clutterbuck
Australian National University
(and thanks, Terry, for initiating it.)
6 April, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Chris Meaney
I strongly support this petition.
Chris Meaney
Dept Mathematics
Macquarie University
6 April, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Steele Clifton-Berry
I am very much in favour of this petition.
All signs, reports and studies authorised by the government indicate a firm grasp of the problems facing Australia with respect to IT and mathematics skill shortages, yet time after time I see steps like this one being taken in the exact opposite direction of fixing the problem – both in high-school and university level programs. It’s an abject shame.
I really hope this petition can help knock some sense into somebody’s head at USQ.
Regards,
Former 4unit maths HSC student and future mathematics & computers educator.
6 April, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Richard Ollerton
I strongly support this petition.
Richard Ollerton
Associate Professor
School of Computing & Mathematics
University of Western Sydney
6 April, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Jarad Martin
I have been personally involved with the USQ maths department in offering a problem solving course for high school students. This course was enthusiastically supported by the faculty despite the lack of any funding, and was unanimously enjoyed by the students.
I appreciate the thought that now all universities can be first rate at everything. However, I would argue that there are some core areas such as mathematics that perfuse so many other majors, that to attack these would undermine the credibility of the entire institution.
6 April, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Alan Easton
I strongly support this petition.
Administrators and teachers still do not understand the importance of Mathematics in society.
University of Papua New Guinea
6 April, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Ben Andrews
I strongly support this petition and urge the USQ administration to reconsider this short-sighted decision.
Ben Andrews
Senior Research Fellow
The Australian National University
6 April, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Mark C Wilson
I endorse this petition. How can an institution call itself a university and not teach a mathematics major, to say nothing of the other fundamental areas being cut. I understand that some specialization is probably required in order to use funds efficiently, but the institution should certainly give up the name “university”. It is a backward step and sets a very bad precedent.
6 April, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Joe Neeman
I strongly support this petition.
Joe Neeman
soon-to-be PhD student
UC Berkeley
6 April, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Harvinder Sidhu
I strongly support this petition. I thought that recent reviews and comments by Senator Carr showed that there should be an increase in funding for the mathematical and statistical sciences to recognise the crucial role these areas play in Australia’s future. It appears that at USQ the reverse is taking place. This is shocking!
University of New South Wales at the Australian Defence Force Academy
6 April, 2008 at 3:16 pm
James Borger
I support this petition.
James Borger
Lecturer
Australian National Univeristy
6 April, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Peter Brown
I strongly support this petition. Mathematics has a central place in all of the older Universities in Australia and this is something all Australian Universities should aspire to, not retreat from.
P. Brown
School of Mathematics and Statistics
University of New South Wales.
6 April, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Andrew Morris
I strongly support this petition.
PhD Student
ANU
6 April, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Amy Glen
I fully support this petition.
Amy Glen
CRM-ISM Postdoctoral Fellow
Laboratoire de combinatoire et d’informatique mathématique (LaCIM)
Université du Québec à Montréal
6 April, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Dr Rowena Ball
I endorse this petition. Mathematics and statistics teaching and research, more than any other discipline, perpetuates the cultural and philosophical base of our society, as well as being essential to advances in science and technology. I visited the department of Mathematics & Computing at USQ last year and gave a seminar. I was enormously impressed with the high level of expertise, passion, and enthusiasm among the staff and students for their discipline. They are all inspirational and talented people who are an asset to USQ. I recommend that USQ invest in its talented people, rather than sack them.
6 April, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Andrew Putman
I strongly support this petition.
Andrew Putman
CLE Moore Instructor
MIT
6 April, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Allison Plant
I endorse this petition.
Mathematics plays a crucial role in education at every level. These kinds of cuts to Mathematics, Computer Sciences and/or Statistics will adversely and severely affect USQ’s image as a credible tertiary educational institution in Australia. Certainly any education students wishing to take mathematics as a major or minor would also be undermined by this decision. Administrators need to reconsider, and really think about the impact that such a move would have for the whole of USQ and the region in which they serve.
Allison Plant
Lecturer in Mathematics
School of IT & Mathematics Sciences
University of Ballarat
Australia
6 April, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Sue D'Arcy
I strongly support this petition.
I was a PhD student in Mathematics last year but have withdrawn due to lack of support for Maths in my university. As undergraduate courses were dropped I found myself increasingly isolated, with no other students coming through the system. I hate to see this happening at other universities.
6 April, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Bruce Henry
I agree with all of the statements in this petition.
Bruce Henry
Associate Professor
School of Mathematics and Statistics
University of New South Wales
6 April, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Anonymous
I support this petition.
Ben Hutchinson
Google
6 April, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Richard Brak
I strongly support this petition.
Richard Brak
Lecturer
The University of Melbourne
6 April, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Emeritus Prof. David Lee
I strongly support the petition. The demand for mathematical skills in most jobs is increasingand educational institutions need to recognise this in their courses for future graduates
6 April, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Nev Fowkes
I strongly support this petition.
6 April, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Dave Day
I strongly support this petition.
Dave Day
Google
6 April, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Dr. Phil Kokic
I strongly support this petition.
From my personal experience in trying to employ Australian graduates with good statistics and mathematics skills in recent years it is clear to me that the demand for such graduates vastly exceeds the supply. What USQ is planning to do is certainly not going to help the situation.
Philip Kokic
Senior Statistician
ABARE
6 April, 2008 at 3:55 pm
John Maindonald
I am a mathematical statistician with strong applied interests, now semi-retired. For most of my career, I have worked alongside application area scientists, in horticulture, in epidemiology, in molecular biology, and so on. In the past I had extensive involvement in the refereeing of papers for the New Zealand DSIR, now Royal Society, journals. An abiding theme is the extent to which research is compromised because adequate statistical, or sometimes mathematical or engineering, support was not available. Availability is of course a relative matter; cost-accounting issues may effectively block access even though funding is in theory available. There will also be instances where scientists choose not to take advantage of the available support.
A university that drops its specialist mathematics and statistics courses limits the training opportunities available to those top-rate students who want to combine limited training in specialist mathematics and statistics with their chosen area of scientific specialty. These are the students who will be best equipped to make major contributions in their chosen area.
It also limits opportunities for researchers in other areas to work co-operatively with mathematicians and statisticians. This co-operative activity can contribute hugely to the quality and relevance of “service” courses. Its impact on the quality of research can be huge. In a number of the areas that are now emerging into importance, the major demand is for statisticians and modelers. Those who do not have these skills, or do not have access to them, area severely limited in what they can do in climate or climate risk research, for example. In such areas (molecular biology was for a while another such area), the demands have changed at a rate that has run ahead of the rate at which the relevant research groups can renew their skills. USQ will do itself a serious dis-service if it settles for a second-rate skill base that is available in support of these current and emerging demands.
There is in statistics a severe skill shortage, with an unprecedented number of positions being advertised. In many cases these positions must be filled with seriously under-qualified individuals. The shortage is the combined result of the closing of statistics and mathematics departments in the relatively recent past, and the demands in financial mathematics and business. I regard the situation as serious, urgently requiring new training initiatives, including cross-over courses for individuals with good mathematical skills that have been acquired, e.g., as part of their engineering training.
A further issue is that there have been huge advances in the past decade in the tools available for statistical analysis, and for mathematical modeling more generally. This creates a large demand for retraining.
Others have commented on implications for the training of teachers. With all the other openings for graduates with skills in statistics and/or applied mathematics, who will be left to teach in the nation’s schools?
Centre for Mathematics and Its Applications
Australian National University.
6 April, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Hans Kull
Given the current state of mathematics education in Australia I do not expect to be able to find a successor for my business within this country. Most likely I will have to shut down opertions here and sell know-how and customer base to a partner company overseas.
Dr. Hans Kull
Managing Director
Informatic Technologies
Geelong North, Australia
6 April, 2008 at 4:01 pm
A/P David Panton
Unfortunately some University administrations have still not got the message regarding the importance of Mathematics, both as a discipline and an enabling science. I strongly support this petition and will urge my colleagues to follow suit.
6 April, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Susan Wilson
I strongly support this petition.
This is a time when Australia needs to be strengthening its mathematics across ALL levels of education if it is to be competitive in our increasingly quantitative-based world.
Sue Wilson
ANU & UNSW
6 April, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Philip Brooker
I strongly support this petition.
Philip Brooker
PhD student in mathematics, ANU
6 April, 2008 at 4:19 pm
David Parrott
I strongly support this petition and urge the University Administration to reconsider their proposed actions regarding the future of mathematics at the university.
6 April, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Reinout Quispel
I fully support this petition.
Reinout Quispel
ARC Australian Professorial Fellow
La Trobe University
6 April, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Anonymous
I strongly support the petition. It seems to me that the University Administration is moving away from the direction of the rest of the nation.
6 April, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Alison Thomson
As a former secondary school mathematics teacher, I am shocked at the short-sightedness of the proposed cuts. I strongly support this petition.
Alison Thomson
PhD candidate
Department of Mathematics and Statistics
University of Melbourne
6 April, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Jie Du
I strongly support the petition. It seems to me that the University Administration is moving away from the direction of the rest of the nation.
6 April, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Conrad Burden
Decimating mathematics and statistics disciplines at USQ will have a severe impact on the University’s ability to research and teach effectively in all areas of science, both the physical and biological. If USQ is desperate to make economies without flow-on effects, perhaps it should consider making cuts to its administrative areas.
Conrad Burden
Centre for Bioinformation Science
John Curtin School of Medical Research and Mathematical Sciences Institute
Australian National University
6 April, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Tom Leinster
Australian mathematics has always punched far above its weight in my area of mathematics. It is horrifying to see the deliberate, brutal destruction of something so special.
Tom Leinster
EPSRC Advanced Research Fellow
University of Glasgow
6 April, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Greg Kuperberg
I strongly support this petition.
It would be a great disservice to Queenslanders and Australians generally if USQ vocationalized its science division. Maybe Queensland’s TAFE institutions should be expanded, but USQ has a much more essential mission of true higher education. In particular, mathematics is not only a valuable university subject in its own right, but also an intellectual foundation for all of science and engineering and even vocational training. If these essential subjects are not adequately popular at USQ, then it is the university’s mission to popularize them, not to appease apathy. A university with no math major is hardly a real university at all.
Greg Kuperberg
Department of Mathematics
University of California, Davis
United States
6 April, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Qi-Man Shao
I strongly support the petition.
Qi-Man Shao
Professor of Mathematics and Statistics
Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
6 April, 2008 at 4:56 pm
James Caffrey
As a mathematic PhD student, I strongly support this petition.
6 April, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Sever S. Dragomir
I would like to strongly support the petition.
Professor Sever S. DRAGOMIR,
Chair in Mathematical Inequalities, RGMIA http://rgmia.vu.edu.au/
Editor in Chief, JIPAM & AJMAA, http://jipam.vu.edu.au/, http://ajmaa.org/
School of Computer Science & Mathematics
Victoria University, PO Box 14428,
Melbourne City, MC 8001, Australia.
Tel: +61 3 9919 4437, Fax: +61 3 9919 4050
URL : http://rgmia.vu.edu.au/dragomir/
6 April, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Deanna Wang
It seems to me to be extremely shortsighted to cut a mathematics programme at any of Australia’s top universities. All professions that require and rely upon good mathematics training will suffer in the end and more of Australia’s top thinkers will leave the country. Just as damaging, it undermines both the confidence of the Australian science and engineering community in Australia’s ability to engage and compete on an international level, as well as the world’s confidence in Australia’s commitment to science and engineering.
Deanna Wang
Programme Supervisor, Masters degree in Powertrain Engineering,
Institut Francais du Petrole/Ecole Nationale Superieur du Petrole et des Moteurs
6 April, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Tiffany Jones
I strongly urge others to support this petition and feel outraged that a university administration lacks the insight to see how important mathematics is in tertiary education and for that matter all levels of education.
Tiffany Jones
PhD candidate, Postgraduate Representative 07/08
Dept Mathematics and Statistics
Curtin University of Technology
6 April, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Terry Neeman
I strongly support this petition. We are in the midst of a severe skill shortage in the areas of quantitative and statistical thinking, both in the private and public sectors. It is a disservice to Australia and also to undergraduate and graduate USQ students not to provide the best possible teaching and learning environment for the development of these skills.
Terry Neeman
Statistical Consulting Unit
ANU
6 April, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Chunhua Chen, Math Honours student, Melbourne Uni
I strongly endorse this petition.
6 April, 2008 at 5:14 pm
L G Kovacs
I strongly support this petition.
L G Kovacs
Centre for Mathematics and its Applications
Australian National University
6 April, 2008 at 5:22 pm
David Stewart
Thanks, Terry, for bringing this to the attention of so many of us.
I would like to echo Bradley Efron’s comment that this is like a farmer
eating the seed corn. And also Mark Wilson’s comment, that it is
hard to see how USQ will justify “University” in its name after all this.
With only service teaching, and half the faculty gone, it will be
hard to have any kind of sustainable department of mathematics,
computing or statistics. And this is supposed to support a Bachelor
of Technology!!! If all they are trying to do is to push out students
who know how to use brand-name software, then so be it.
But technology moves ahead so fast that the best knowledge to
have is fundamental knowledge.
David Stewart
Mathematics, University of Iowa
Yet another ex-pat Aussie mathematician.
6 April, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Ross Street
Thank you Terry for formulating this petition which I whole heartedly endorse.
Ross Street
Mathematics Department
Macquarie University
6 April, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Tamar Ziegler
I strongly support this petition.
Tamar Ziegler
Mathematics Department
Technion-Israel Institute of Technology
6 April, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Shuanglin Shao
I strongly SUPPORT the petition.
Shuanglin Shao
PhD candidate in Mathematics,
UCLA
6 April, 2008 at 5:35 pm
les jennings
It appears that USQ has not compared itself to other Australian Universities in terms of its student staff ratios. Many university maths departments would die for 650 EFTSL. Surely a Science Faculty should not follow student demand, rather it should follow job demand.
Les Jennings,
Head, School of Mathematics and Statistics, UWA.
6 April, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Aidan Sims
I strongly support this petition. It is particularly disturbing to see universities continuing to moot proposals like this in light of recent indications that the government is moving to encourage universities to support science and mathematics.
Aidan Sims
School of Mathematics and Applied Statistics
University of Wollongong.
6 April, 2008 at 5:39 pm
Michael Deakin
This is another chapter in the sorry saga of diminishing commitment to Mathematics. We need more Math teaching, not less.
6 April, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Ben Toner
As an expatriate Australian scientist, I strongly support this petition.
Ben Toner
Scientific Staff Member
Centrum voor Wiskunde en Informatica
(Dutch National Institute for Mathematics and Computer Science)
6 April, 2008 at 6:03 pm
Emeritus Professor Michael Osborne FAA
I strongly support this petition.
Before the federal election the previous government announced a financial initiative in support of mathematics training in Universities. There have since been intimations from a number of Universities that this funding has not found its way through to Departments. This would appear to be confirmed by actions at USQ.
I understand that USQ has been seeking to publicise a teacher training initiative which puts an emphasis on preparing mathematics teachers. This could hardly be the time to recommend this course to potential students.
Lately there has been a good deal of lip service given to the importance of mathematics and the urgent need to improve mathematics training in Universities. USQ would appear to be passing the buck!
This comment is supported by
Emeritus Professor Joe Gani FAA
6 April, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Rahul Santhanam
I support this petition.
Rahul Santhanam,
Lecturer in Informatics,
University of Edinburgh
6 April, 2008 at 6:20 pm
Stephen Lack
I strongly support the petition.
Steve Lack
School of Computing and Mathematics
University of Western Sydney
6 April, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Todd Trimble
As an American mathematician who benefited greatly from his experience as a postdoctoral fellow at an Australian university, I strongly support this petition.
6 April, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Michael Small
Looking through these comments, I can see that my position is not unique. I am yet another expatriate Australian mathematician. In my case, the expatriation is both geographical and intellectual.
I support this petition.
Michael Small
Associate Professor
Department of Electronic and Information Engineering
Hong Kong Polytechnic University
6 April, 2008 at 6:41 pm
Joerg Arndt
I support the petition!
PhD candidate in Mathematics, ANU
6 April, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Dayal Dharmasena
I strongly support this petition.
Graduate Student, Syracuse University
6 April, 2008 at 6:59 pm
Manas K Patra
Mathematics, it was once said is the “Queen of Science”. I suppose with the dominant market-oriented approach of our age many have already abandoned or plan to abandon the Queen! But I am a strong believer of what the famous physicist Wigner called “The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics in the Natural Sciences” . (http://www.dartmouth.edu/~matc/MathDrama/reading/Wigner.html)
I strongly support the petition.
Manas Patra
School of Computing and Mathematics
University of Western Sydney
6 April, 2008 at 7:09 pm
Fuchun Huang
I strongly support this petition.
I know some ordinary Australians sent their children overseas for high school education, because they believe Australian high schools do not give their children the high quality education as they can get from some other countries such as China. Poor mathematics teaching and low level maths requirements are most often the reasons among others. To many of them and us, good mathematics and statistics training at high school and university level is like the strong and good foundation of a multi storey building. If graudates of an overseas university are all good at various aspects of university mathematics and statistics including the assumptions and limitations of various methods and tools and are able to extend them as required, while grauduates of an Australian university know only a few cases of applying some tools without being able to extend them for some other cases, which university would you recommend to atend?
Fuchun Huang
Senior Lecturer
School of Computer Science and Mathematics
Victoria University,
PO Box 14428, Melbourne 8001 Australia
6 April, 2008 at 7:10 pm
Charlie Macaskill
I strongly support this petition.
Charlie Macaskill
Associate Professor
School of Mathematics and Statistics
University of Sydney
6 April, 2008 at 7:10 pm
Alan McIntosh
I strongly support this petition. This is a very important matter
6 April, 2008 at 7:12 pm
Don Vicendese
I support the petition. Surely USQ can understand that a kneejerk reaction to demands for short sighted, unrestrained cost rationalisation may become, in the long term, retrogressive to USQ and Australian society at large. I suppose not – USQ needs some math modelling to answer that.
B.Sc Hons. Applied Maths
6 April, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Volker Gebhardt
I strongly support this petition.
It is a disgrace how Australian universities compete for a larger “market share” by stripping content from their degrees. The USQ case is an extreme (at least for now), but the trend is ubiquitous.
Do people really want to base the future national economy on lifestyle degrees like the (in)famous “Bachelor of Surf Science and Technology”?
Volker Gebhardt
School of Computing and Mathematics
University of Western Sydney
6 April, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Bob (Robert S.) Anderssen
It appears that the recommendations are the result of advice received from highly paid consultants, rather than on in-depth understanding, by the USQ administrators, of what Mathematics and Computing have and will continue to achieve for the competence, employability and professionalism of its students. It is a sad day for Australian tertiary education when highly paid university administrators find it necessary to spend large sums of money on external consultants (who do not necessarily understand the big picture), instead of using their assumed expertise (in terms of their emuneration packages) to spend that money to improve the quality of the students who pay their own money (often with families making sacrifices to assist) to obtain a tertiary education.
I strongly support the petition, and urge that good sense prevails and a solution be found that enhances the reputation of USQ rather than harms it.
Bob Anderssen
Member of the USQ’s Science Advisory Committee
(which ceased to operate some years ago)
Past President of the Australian Mathematical Society
Past Chair for the National Committee for Mathematics
6 April, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Mark Kisin
I strongly support the petition,
Australia is currently suffering an acute shortage of people
with mathematical training. The adverse effect this has on
Australian economic competitiveness is now widely understood.
The action proposed by the USQ administration would be
a huge disservice to the national interest and to the students of USQ.
It would instantly relegate USQ to second tier status as an institution
of higher eduction.
Mark Kisin
Professor
University of Chicago
6 April, 2008 at 7:49 pm
Matthew Emerton
I am another expatriate Australian mathematician. In the 1980’s, in Australia, I enjoyed the benefit of some excellent high school maths teachers (in ordinary state — public, in American English — secondary schools), and a lot of individual attention from excellent mathematicians at the university level. (Similar, I would guess, to the kind of mentorship that Terry received at Flinders, which he described in his post.)
While I was a university student, and since coming to the United States,
I also witnessed the continual deterioration of conditions in mathematics
departments in Australian universities. Teaching loads have gotten
ever higher, and universities seem to have been run and more and more as money-making enterprises, rather than institutes dedicated to world-class research and teaching. The contrast with universities in the United States is striking. (I am speaking from experience with both private and public universities in the US.)
I hope that the administration at USQ will realize the misguided nature
of their plan to replace the traditional Bachelor of Science by a Bachelor
of Technology, while at the same time gutting many of the basic enabling sciences that underlie contemporary technology. If these changes are allowed to happen, I fear that USQ students will be condemned to be trained merely as users of technology in the service industries, rather than as creators of new sciences and technologies. If similar changes occur in other Australian
universities, one can only guess at the long-term damage that will be done
to the Australian economy. And how will the next generation of maths and
science teachers get the education they need to attain the level of excellence
that some of my high school teachers had? From a course in `Science Studies’?
Although a small country, Australia has always produced more than its fair
share of original researchers in many scientific fields, including mathematics.
Indeed, the large number of expatriate Australian mathematicians signing this
petition stands as witness to the strength that Australia has traditionally shown in producing world-class mathematicians. To see this strength being
sapped over the years has been saddening and dispiriting for the Australian
mathematical community, both in Australia and abroad. To see it being
cut down in one fell swoop at USQ, by the University itself, is maddening!
There must be some people involved in administering the tertiary educational enterprise in Australia who realize the folly of the USQ administrations proposals. I only hope that they can prevail.
I support this petition in the strongest possible terms.
Matthew Emerton
Associate Professor
Department of Mathematics
Northwestern University
Evanston, Illinois, United States
6 April, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Anonymous
Dustin Mayeda
Graduate Student
University of California, Davis
6 April, 2008 at 7:57 pm
Stephen Weissenhofer
I support this petition.
Stephen Weissenhofer
School of Computing and Mathematics
University of Western Sydney
6 April, 2008 at 8:03 pm
Leanne Rylands
I strongly support this petition.
Leanne Rylands
Associate Head of School – Computer Science
School of Computing & Mathematics
6 April, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Mark Dras
Mark Dras
Senior Lecturer, Department of Computing
Macquarie University
6 April, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Nicolas Warren
I strongly support this petition. I’m studying in mathematics and whilst we have a reasonably strong department here, the problems with mathematics in this country seem to be fairly obvious to anyone with an interest.
Nicolas Warren
Melbourne Scholar
University of Melbourne, Australia
6 April, 2008 at 8:25 pm
Claire Hotan
I strongly support this petition.
Claire Hotan
Research Assistant
Curtin University of Technology
6 April, 2008 at 8:26 pm
Jackie Reid
I am a lecturer in Statistics at the University of New England (UNE) – another regional university. UNE is in partnership with USQ – sharing the teaching of Statistics units. I am very concerned by what is happening at USQ. The proposed cuts at USQ will have far-reaching consequences. I strongly support this petition.
Jackie Reid
Lecturer in Statistics,
University of New England
Australia
6 April, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Justin Bray
I support this petition.
Terry: anecdotally, I know twenty or so students at Flinders, but not a single one studying any sort of maths. It would be a shame to see yet another Australian university cut its mathematics education back to such abominably low levels.
Justin Bray
Physics Honours student
University of Adelaide
6 April, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Sergei Schreider
I support this petition.
Sergei Schreider
Senior Lecturer
School of mathematical and geospatial sciences
RMIT University
6 April, 2008 at 8:46 pm
Judy-anne Osborn
I strongly support this petition, as mathematical education and thinking underpins many important parts of our science and culture. We need a high level of mathematical training available and research distributed broadly both in terms of areas of expertise as well as geographically across our wide continent.
Judy-anne Osborn
Postdoctoral Fellow
Australian National University
6 April, 2008 at 8:54 pm
Geoff Mercer
I strongly support this petition. There is a skill shortage all quantitative areas at present and to severely cut maths and stats to this degree is incredibly short sighted.
Geoff Mercer
Associate Professor in Applied Mathematics
UNSW at Australian Defence Force Academy
6 April, 2008 at 8:56 pm
Graham Coghill
I strongly support this petition. Queensland IS the Smart State – isn’t it?
Graham Coghill
Retired Qld science teacher
6 April, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Lynette McLean
I also strongly suppport this petition. By USQ management cutting MAthematics and Statistics courses do they realise they also are setting at jeopardy units at other Australian universities like UNE, Newcastle etc? Team teaching is a way that the shortage of mathematicians and statisticians is being met across Australia. As well if we can’t train our budding teachers how can we meet a growing need for people in these feilds in 10 to 50 years? We need a positive spiral not a negative one!
Lynette McLean
Lecturer in Genetics
UNE
6 April, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Jamie Simpson
I support this petition.
6 April, 2008 at 9:21 pm
Regina Burachik
I strongly support this petition and hope that the USQ administration will reconsider this short-sighted decision.
6 April, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Tamara Davis
I endorse this petition.
Tamara Davis
Research Fellow, Dept. of Physics
University of Queensland
6 April, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Rodney Weber
I strongly support this petition. These cuts seem completely unnecessary and are contrary
to all the policies of the previous and current federal governments.
Rodney Weber
Associate Professor in Applied Mathematics
UNSW at ADFA, Canberra
6 April, 2008 at 9:36 pm
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
Greg Hjorth
University of Melbourne, UCLA
6 April, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Sam Clifford
I strongly support this petition.
Sam Clifford
Maths Honours Student
Queensland University of Technology
6 April, 2008 at 9:38 pm
Anthony Klemm
It is sad to see the continuing destruction of Mathematics in the smaller Universities in Australia. I strongly support this petition.
Tony Klemm
Trinity College University of Melbourne – Retired.
6 April, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Roslyn Hickson
I support this petition.
Roslyn Hickson
PhD candidate in Mathematics
UNSW at ADFA
6 April, 2008 at 9:58 pm
Margaret Donald
It is sad to see the continuing shortsightedness of our political leaders in destroying our society’s capacity to benefit from something so fundamental as mathematics.
6 April, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Jennifer Thackham
I strongly support this petition.
Jennifer Thackham
Maths PhD Student
Queensland University of Technology
6 April, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Michael Dallwitz
Senior Principal Research Scientist
CSIRO Entomology
(Retired)
6 April, 2008 at 10:06 pm
Chris
I strongly support this petition.
Christopher Lustri
Maths Honours Student
Queensland University of Technology
6 April, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Robin Hill
I strongly support this petition.
6 April, 2008 at 10:41 pm
Peter Maher
I strongly support this petition.
Peter Maher
6 April, 2008 at 10:49 pm
Tim Vaughan
I too strongly support this petition.
Tim Vaughan
University of Queensland
6 April, 2008 at 10:59 pm
Graeme Pettet
I concur with the sentiments expressed in this petition.
The proposed cuts to Maths, Stats and Computing do a great injustice to the students at USQ and their training in important enabling sciences.
In terms of the reputation and morale of academic staff at USQ and the greater Australian Maths, Stats and Computing community, this is a short-sighted move with a negative impact upon the standing and training of Mathematical Sciences in our country.
I urge those with the power to reverse this decision to do so without delay.
Graeme Pettet
Associate Professor, School of Mathematical Sciences
Queensland University of Technology
6 April, 2008 at 11:02 pm
Nalini Joshi
I support this petition strongly.
The proposal by USQ seems to be incredibly short-sighted. On the one hand, the proposal shows that Engineering service courses (taught by mathematicians) are set to grow and, on the other hand, the number of mathematics and statistics positions are to be cut drastically. In the face of increased income per EFTSL (effective full-time student load) from the federal government’s 2007 budget for students doing mathematics and statistics courses, I don’t see where the justification lies for this decision.
Nalini Joshi
The University of Sydney
6 April, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Omar Rojas
I endorse the petition.
Omar Rojas
PhD candidate in Mathematics
La Trobe University
6 April, 2008 at 11:41 pm
Jonathan Adams
I strongly support this petition.
7 April, 2008 at 12:19 am
sam wolinski
I strongly support this petition.
Sam Wolinski
B.Math Student
Newcastle Uni Australia
7 April, 2008 at 12:34 am
Carl Dettmann
I strongly support this petition. As an Australian applied mathematician working abroad I find it particularly disappointing that maths has such low value at an Australian University. Without a maths department it is hard to see how USQ can in fact be called a University at all, and the lack of mathematical expertise will soon have a detrimental effect on all mathematics related disciplines (science, engineering, medicine, finance etc). I know the relevant administrators probably won’t believe me or others signing this petition, but don’t say you weren’t warned.
Carl Dettmann
Reader in Applied Maths
University of Bristol
United Kingdom
7 April, 2008 at 12:49 am
David Leslie
I strongly support this petition. I did my postdoc in the economics department at UNSW, working with some excellent mathematicians. The universities must be strongly encouraged to use the additional public money for maths students to support mathematical departments, and maintain Australia’s strong but dwindling research base.
7 April, 2008 at 1:09 am
Edouard Thomas
I do support this petition.
Édouard Thomas
PhD student
Nancy University
France
7 April, 2008 at 1:23 am
Anonymous
I strongly support support this petition.
Dmitry Yakubovich
Dept. of Mathematics
Universidad Autónoma de Madrid
Spain
7 April, 2008 at 1:46 am
René Meyer
I strongly support this petition.
René Meyer
Max-Planck-Institute for Physics
and Ludwig-Maximilians-University,
Munich, Germany
7 April, 2008 at 1:47 am
Giang Nguyen
I strongly support this petition.
Giang Nguyen
PhD Candidate
School of Mathematics and Statistics
University of South Australia
7 April, 2008 at 1:52 am
Anonymous
I give this petition my strongest support. Teaching mathematics and statistics without a critical mass of mathematicians and statisticians immersed in their teaching and research will produce graduates with capabilities no better than being able to click a few buttons in a software package with next to no notion of what they are doing. Any business or industry or arm of government which uses *information*, and therefore numbers – and that’s a lot – needs better trained graduates than what the demise of mathematics in Australia, such as what is happening at USQ, will produce.
Rodney Wolff
Professor of Statistics
Queensland University of Technology
Brisbane
Australia
7 April, 2008 at 1:59 am
Yair Censor
I strongly support this petition.
It seems that “there is nothing new under the sun” (Ecclesiastes 1:9-14 NIV). The trend to govern research universities according to the “rational” principles of the business world is spreading throughout the global village. This trend has already created an enormous damage to the research universities in my country, Israel, in the last few years.
I am proud to strongly support this petition but I am at the same time very concerned that petitions alone cannot change the course of events.
Prof. Yair Censor, Department of Mathematics, University of Haifa, Mt. Carmel, Haifa 31905, Israel.
Homepage: http://math.haifa.ac.il/censor.html
7 April, 2008 at 2:01 am
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
Javier Ramos
PhD Candidate
Universidad Autónoma de Madrid
Spain
7 April, 2008 at 2:07 am
Robert Bartnik
I endorse this petition, in the strongest possible terms.
I’m a relatively senior mathematician, still regretting my decision to return after completing my PhD in 1983.
It is hard to see this decision by USQ senior managemnt as anything other than a cynical grab for the additional support funds which were directed to the universities by the (previous) federal government, specifically to improve and extend the teaching of undergraduate mathematics. It is encouraging that this is being treated as a bipartisan issue, of major concern to the technological development of the country. However, I suspect governments will need a great deal of guidance before the critical challenge of rebuilding the maths infrastructure in Australia is adequately addressed.
It is regretable (and somewhat ironic) that the only easy way available for the government to address the critical decline of maths at the universities, was through tinkering with the RFM weightings. The RFM has been an unmitigated disaster for good policy managment of mathematics in Australia, since it has encouraged individual faculties and departments to manipulate degree rules (both formal and informal) to direct students away from the “hard” mathematics subjects and into their “own” maths/stats service subjects. The result has been the same, at all of our universities (though a lucky few have been relatively less-traumatised) — fewer maths/stats subjects offered, and at a weaker level, by fewer mathematicians and statisticians, especially those who are research-active.
Sadly, the unfolding disaster at USQ is but one more example of the end-game of this process, although in this case the administration seems to have been even more cynical than usual, in their rush to purloin the $$ intended for mathematics.
So what can we, the Australian mathematics community in particular, do about this catastrophe? SIgning petitions such as this is a great step forward. Joining our professional society (AustMS) is one way of strengthening our voice in governments and university administrations. The AustMS offers accreditation for mathematics graduates — Maybe one day this will be recognised as the essential prerequisite for all secondary maths and science teachers!? That many Australian-based mathematicians will find this unimaginable, is a clear sign that we have lost the plot and fallen far behind the rest of the world.
7 April, 2008 at 2:09 am
Brad Moroney
Having focused my studies and ongoing career in the computing industry, it astounds me to learn of the narrow-minded intent to cull funding from the University of Southern Queensland’s Department of Mathematics and Computing budget. As an IT Manager, I see the first hand the result of a “university education” today and it far from inspires me as to what our future graduates will contribute to Australia’s (or, the world’s) computing industry.
The idea of “the clever country” has been delivered nothing more than lip service from successive Federal/State governments. Talk is cheap and what has been delivered appears to have been cheaper. Focus seems to have shifted through a knee-jerk reaction away from educating and challenging our populous, to blinding “working families” to believe they should not fight for knowledge, just ship the problem to resources off-shore.
Do not accept that there are other people in the world should be the innovators of the future! Knowledge knows no bounds, and should not be constrained to any.
I offer my support to this petition and hope that Australia’s future innovation is not stifled any further.
Brad Moroney
IT Manager
CPI Group Ltd
7 April, 2008 at 3:25 am
Andrew Pickering
This is a set of proposals that is inexplicable from any point of view, including
budgetary. However, even if they are withdrawn (one can hope), we should
not fall into the trap of self-congratulation but remember that what is needed is
genuinely adequate funding for the future. I don’t regard having taught in or
visited Australian universities as a prerequisite in order to sign this petition.
I support this petition.
Andrew Pickering
Profesor Titular de Universidad
Departamento de Matematica Aplicada
Universidad Rey Juan Carlos
Madrid, Spain.
7 April, 2008 at 3:30 am
Honglei Xu
I strongly support this petition and thanks for initiating this.
Honglei Xu
PhD candidate
Dept of Mathematics and Statistics
Curtin University of Technology, Perth, WA
7 April, 2008 at 3:47 am
Jeff Close
I support this petition.
Australia needs to maintain and enhance the teaching of mathematics at all levels, and as USQ is in rural Australia, this is even more important so that more rural and regional Australians can have access to mathematics at University level.
7 April, 2008 at 3:55 am
Adrian Gepp
I believe that teaching mathematics provides students with logical reasoning and problem solving skills that will increase their performance in most, if not all, career paths. Therefore, I strongly support this petition.
Adrian Gepp
Course Coordinator
Bond University
7 April, 2008 at 4:02 am
Gordon Clake
Such short term thinking is very distressing. Considering the considerable investment of mathematics in a wide base of industry they will deplore such short term measures.
Also it deprives our country of future teachers and lecturers who will bring forth the next generation of mathematicians. We are robbing Australia of its future and intellectual base as well as a loss of revenue.
I strong suppor this petition.
7 April, 2008 at 4:08 am
Zvi Ziegler
I strongly support the petition.
It is awfully shortsighted to destroy a Math department that is functioning well. It is much easier to destroy than to build , and when the effects are known and there is a will to repair the damage , it will take a long time.
7 April, 2008 at 4:23 am
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
Ruth Musgrave
Maths Honours Student
Monash University
Australia
7 April, 2008 at 4:31 am
Rothzael
As students, we just want to learn. In the endless pursuit of revenue, the bureaucrats have forgotten that a university is a place of education and knowledge. Don’t take this away from us.
7 April, 2008 at 4:44 am
Anonymous
I give this petition my strongest support.
Alessandro Andretta
Dipartimento di Matematica
Universita’ di Torino, Italy
7 April, 2008 at 4:46 am
christine kim
I strongly support this petition.
Christine Kim
Washington, DC
7 April, 2008 at 4:49 am
Bea Bleile
I stronlgy support this petition in solidarity with my colleagues at USQ.
Bea Bleile
Associate Lecturer
University of New England, Armidale, Australia
currently guest at the
Max Planck Institute for Mathematics, Bonn
7 April, 2008 at 5:18 am
Andrés Villaveces
I support very strongly this petition.
7 April, 2008 at 5:22 am
Sergei Abramovich
I strongly support the petition.
7 April, 2008 at 5:23 am
A Petition to Help Support Maths at USQ « Louis Yang Liu
[...] A Petition to Help Support Maths at USQ Please go to Terry Tao’s Blog, and give your endorsement to his petition to help support maths at University of Southern Queensland (USQ) by Signing here. [...]
7 April, 2008 at 5:35 am
Clarence C.Y. Kwan
I strongly support this petition.
Clarence C.Y. Kwan
Professor
McMaster University
Canada
7 April, 2008 at 5:49 am
María Vela Pérez
I strongly support this petition.
7 April, 2008 at 5:59 am
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
7 April, 2008 at 6:08 am
Mikhail Borovoi
I strongly support this petition.
Mikhail Borovoi
Principal Research Associate
Tel Aviv University
7 April, 2008 at 6:13 am
Jim Wright
I strongly support the above petition.
Since I left Australia over eight years ago
I’ve heard many stories from former colleagues
at the University of New South Wales about
the deteriorating situation in mathematics locally and nationally in Australia. This is a very sad situation as the mathematical community in Australia has played an important role in international mathematics with a dynamic programme for visitors, attracting leading mathematicians from around the world. I fear this will dramatically change if the policies of the Australian government towards mathematics do not change soon.
Jim Wright
Professor of Mathematical Analysis
University of Edinburgh
7 April, 2008 at 6:15 am
Aravind Srinivasan
I strongly endorse this petition.
Aravind Srinivasan
Professor of Computer Science
University of Maryland, College Park
USA
7 April, 2008 at 6:17 am
Darren Ma
I support this petition.
7 April, 2008 at 6:24 am
Jesus Gonzalo
Universities are, above all, institutions of learning. It is impossible to quantify the benefits to people and Society that a highest-level education can give.
Elimination of non-service Mathematics, reducing it to some systematic recipes for solving a list of problems, does an immense damage to the Country, and to the University’s image, so obvious that I will not repeat it here.
Instead I want to recall that we humans have only one life to live, and having been exposed to thought at the highest level can do for a person’s happyness more than all the money in the world. Universities are the only institutions that provide this. The lack of such an education, on the other hand, will bring great losses to Democracy as there will be no one left capable of having free alternative viewpoints.
I support the above petition with all my strength.
Jesus Gonzalo Perez
Mathematics Department
Universidad Autonoma de Madrid
28049 Madrid, Spain
7 April, 2008 at 6:28 am
Paul Smith
I endorse this petition.
Paul Smith
Graduate Student, UCLA
7 April, 2008 at 6:32 am
Gene Kim
These cuts will be detrimental to the long term success of the University and its students. As someone who works in education policy for the U.S. Congress, I strongly support this petition.
Gene Kim
Washington, DC
7 April, 2008 at 6:39 am
Anonymous
I strongly support the petition.
Keith Burns
Professor of Mathematics
Northwestern University
7 April, 2008 at 6:49 am
Anonymous
i support this endeavor
7 April, 2008 at 6:49 am
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
Maria Jose Gonzalez
Dpt. Matematicas, Estadistica y Computacion
Universidad de Cantabria (Spain)
7 April, 2008 at 7:10 am
Luis A. Fernández
I completely agree with this petition and urge the USQ administration to reconsider.
Luis Alberto Fernández
Associate Professor
Dpt. Matematicas, Estadistica y Computacion
Universidad de Cantabria (Spain)
7 April, 2008 at 7:20 am
John Bamberg
I strongly support this petition.
John Bamberg,
Dept Pure Mathematics,
Ghent University.
7 April, 2008 at 7:30 am
eric cho
I support
7 April, 2008 at 7:31 am
Poul Hjorth
USQ is making a massive and far reaching mistake by cutting back on the quality of mathematics education. Teaching only yesterday’s mathematics, and not maintaining a research environment is a certain path to status as a second or third rank educational institution. Many fields that employ math in an essential way are only as good as the math skills of the practitioners, and non-research based teaching, and ’service’ teaching is simply not as good as the real thing. For the sake of your credibility as a university you should re consider this short sighted decision.
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Associate Professor -
Department of Mathematics, -
Building 303-S, Matematiktorvet, -
Technical University of Denmark
DK-2800 Kgs. Lyngby, Denmark
Phone (+45)45253061 | email: p.g.hjorth@mat.dtu.dk
FAX (+45)45881399 | www: http://www.mat.dtu.dk/people/uk?id=15
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7 April, 2008 at 7:36 am
A. Kechris
I strongly support the petition.
Alexander Kechris
Professor of Mathematics
California Institute of Technology
7 April, 2008 at 7:40 am
Justin Tatch Moore
I strongly support this petition.
Justin Tatch Moore
Associate Professor of Mathematics
Cornell University
7 April, 2008 at 8:08 am
Anne Thomas
I am another expatriate Australian mathematician who strongly supports this petition.
Anne Thomas
H. C. Wang Assistant Professor
Cornell University
7 April, 2008 at 8:23 am
Anonymous
I strongly support the petition above.
Yogi Sharma
Graduate Student
Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14850
7 April, 2008 at 8:43 am
Petição: Petition to support maths, statistics, and computing at USQ by Terence Tao « problemas | teoremas
[...] 7, 2008 in Notícia O matemático de topo Terence Tao , Professor da UCLA, lançou uma petição online , no seu blogue What´s New (veja “link” na barra lateral): Quem pretender saber as [...]
7 April, 2008 at 8:56 am
Cristina Ballantine
I strongly support the petition above.
Cristina Ballantine
Associate Professor
College of the Holy Cross
Worcester, MA 01610
7 April, 2008 at 9:03 am
harrison
I strongly support this petition.
Harrison Brown
Student
Georgia Institute of Technology
Atlanta, GA
7 April, 2008 at 9:07 am
Anonymous
I strongly support the petition above.
Clément Hongler
Graduate Student
University of Geneva
Switzerland
7 April, 2008 at 9:15 am
mike lee
I adamantly support this petition.
Michael Lee
Engineer
Jet Propulsion Lab (NASA)
Los Angeles, CA
7 April, 2008 at 9:33 am
Ravinder Singh
I strongly support this petition.
Ravinder Singh,
Department of Mathematics,
IIT Kanpur, India.
7 April, 2008 at 9:48 am
Tiffany Shiau
I support this petition strongly.
Tiffany Shiau
Medical school student
Thomas Jefferson University- Jefferson Medical College
7 April, 2008 at 9:55 am
Denis
I strongly support this petition.
The idea of the university considering such proposals is disgusting. The proposals express the disrespectful attitude university management has towards the study of mathematics. I think the actions of the university are degrading to staff who invest a great amount of time encouraging and promoting mathematics. The actions by management is demoralising for both staff and the students which have been informally told. Management has only communicated its disregard for student opinion by not informing affected students of the proposals. I believe the proposals confirm the university is more interested in profit from more popular programmes by cutting unpopular fundamentals. Many of my lecturers invest a lot of effort into developing new courses and helping students understand and appreciate mathematics. It is unfortunate to see these courses cut the following year because they do not win in the ‘university course popularity contest’. Unfortunately the consequences of implementing such proposals will be felt throughout the dying field of mathematics in Australia. I ask readers to spend 10 minutes emailing their thoughts to university management highlighting the implications of their actions.
Applied Mathematics Undergraduate
University of Southern Queensland
7 April, 2008 at 10:01 am
Chris Eastaugh
As USQ engineering graduate, I have found that my grounding in maths, stats and physical sciences gained there has stood me in excellent stead, both in the professional workforce and in postgraduate study in Australia and abroad. I have no doubt that their problems with declining enrollments would be better addressed through effective marketing, rather than by cutting programmes. I strongly endorse Dr Tao’s petition, and thank him for his support for Australian students.
Chris Eastaugh
University of Joensuu, Finland
7 April, 2008 at 10:07 am
Michael Kinyon
I support this petition.
Michael Kinyon
Assoc. Professor
Department of Mathematics
University of Denver
7 April, 2008 at 10:08 am
David Galloway
I wholeheartedly support this petition. I don’t know what kind of an institution the USQ administrators are hoping to have after they make these changes, but I don’t think they’ll have much right to keep calling it a university.
7 April, 2008 at 10:16 am
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition, for the reasons contained in the petition. I do so also because other disciplines gain value from mathematics, computing, statistics, physics etc.
I also would like to express my concern in terms of a comment voiced already as follows: “I fear that USQ students will be condemned to be trained merely as users of technology in the service industries rather than as creators of new sciences and technologies.”
I also would like to add the following point: the ideas to which we hold matter fundamentally. They lead either to good outcomes or to bad outcomes. The USQ situation reflects various ideas and (mis)perceptions that are popular in Australia currently, and is symptomatic of larger, and quite serious, problems in education in Australia. Perhaps this situation suggests also that some fundamentals need re-examining.
Ruth Williams PhD
School of Economics and Finance
Victoria University
Melbourne, Australia.
7 April, 2008 at 10:30 am
Laura Brooks
I fully support this petition.
Thank you for bringing up this issue Terry. The continuing decline of tertiary education not just in Mathematics, but across the board, results in students and researchers having to choose between either moving overseas (often permanently) for their education/work, or (receiving a higher education) / (undertaking research) which is not at a level equivalent to their overseas counterparts.
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Laura Brooks
Scripps Institution of Oceanography, UCSD (Fulbright Scholar)
School of Mechanical Engineering, University of Adelaide (PhD Student)
7 April, 2008 at 10:38 am
Peter Sarnak
I support this petition.
A point that I have been making recently is that Australia has been providing the mathematics world with some of the very best talent in recent years (yourself, Akshay, Emmerton. Kisin, Calegari brothers,…) Clearly they were doing something right 10 to 20 years ago.
Peter Sarnak
Eugene Higgins Professor of Mathematics, Princeton University
Professor, Institute for Advanced Study
7 April, 2008 at 10:39 am
Frank Calegari
Like other expatriates, I benefited enormously from the mentoring and individual attention I received from strong Mathematicians in Australia. It is disturbing to hear of the proposed budget cuts at USQ. The Australian academic community is small enough such that these drastic cuts will inevitably spread. With even the so called “prestige” departments forced into budget cuts, the best and brightest will inevitably look (often reluctantly) to positions overseas.
What appalls me most, however, is that it is generally accepted that developing a new generation of scientifically literate Australians, and in particular scientifically literate high school teachers (of which there is a current shortage) is essential to Australia’s future economy. I understand that USQ had plans for a novel training scheme for young teachers that is now slated to be scrapped.
I am very pleased that Australian governments have recently come to realize that Science (and Mathematics in particular) will play an essential role in Australia’s future success. I hope that university administrators will take note and reverse these short sighted budget cuts, for the sake not only of USQ but also for Australian higher education in general.
Frank Calegari
Assistant Professor
Department of Mathematics
Northwestern University
Evanston, IL, USA
7 April, 2008 at 10:45 am
Henrik D. Petersen
I support this petition, research-based teaching is what universities should be all about. Please think ahead and support mathematics and the sciences.
Henrik Densing Petersen,
University of Copenhagen,
Denmark
7 April, 2008 at 10:57 am
Alexandre Borovik
It once again brings to mind H. G. Wells’ words: “more and more, mankind’s future seems to be a race between education and catastrophe.”
Alexandre Borovik
University of Manchester
Manchester M13 9PL
United Kingdom
7 April, 2008 at 10:57 am
David Harvey
Another expat, who hopes to return someday. This petition has my 150% support.
David Harvey
PhD candidate
Harvard University
7 April, 2008 at 10:58 am
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7 April, 2008 at 11:17 am
Ben Linowitz
I strongly support this petition.
Ben Linowitz
PhD Candidate
Dartmouth College
7 April, 2008 at 11:29 am
Philip Walford
As a graduate of an Australian mathematics department I too support this petition. It is saddening to see that now that the government is finally beginning to support mathematics in Australia, university administrators are willing to bring about its decline all alone.
Philip Walford,
Software Developer,
Calyon Investment Bank
7 April, 2008 at 11:31 am
Emmanuel Kowalski
I also strongly support the petition.
What particularly seems misguided to me in such actions is that, if implemented, they will be close to irreversible in the future.
Emmanuel Kowalski
Professor
ETH Zürich – Department Mathematik
Switzerland
7 April, 2008 at 11:53 am
Javier Cilleruelo
I support this petition.
Departamento de matemáticas
Universidad Autónoma de Madrid
Madrid, Spain
7 April, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Igor Carron
I am neither Australian nor a Mathematician. However, I am an Engineer who has worked on many subject areas from Aerospace to Mechanical to Nuclear Engineering. In every single one of these areas, Advanced Mathematics was a prerequisite for providing much better solutions. In an era of many different unique Energy and Climate challenges, I am baffled by the sort of decision-making process that would in effect cut off from underneath a flow of prepared minds for these future challenges.
I strongly support the petition.
Igor Carron.
7 April, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Adam Cagliarini
I strongly support the petition.
It started with the classics and now this awful disease is spreading. I hope the new government is taking note and that part of it’s new “education revolution” changes this disturbing trend. Mathematics (both pure and applied) and Statistcs are important in many other areas of study, especially in mine being economics. Economics is now a branch of mathematics and many of the advances in pure mathematics has enabled economists to make significant advances that have made very valuable contributions to many areas of market design and government policy. Maybe one government might be able to see this and provide some support.
I think Australian mathematicians and former mathematicians may need to start thinking of measures as a defence against closures. One possibility, and this is coming from the economist in me, is that we should set up a fund, much in the same way that endowment funds work for US universities, to help provide ongoing funding for Australian mathematics departments. These funds are often set up so that each year, only a fixed percentage of the fund is spent, typically about 4.75% of the fund, so in years where returns are higher than this, the fund expands. Continued contributions could also help – and if it is non-profit, which it is, contributions can be made tax-deductible. If we can get information from departments of mathematics and statistics as to how much money is needed country wide to keep departments open (above and beyond government funding), we can determine how much is needed to start the fund.
If the mathematics and statistics community put a concerted effort together to lobby the government and private industry for some funds. Prominent mathematicians, like Terry Tao, could be used to lobby the likes of the PM and other influential people. Private industry might be able to help us manage the fund at a low cost and I’m sure there are lawyers out there, who have studied mathematics and statistics, that can help with the legal side.
I’m not sure if it can be done, but we need to start thinking of coming up with ways of ensuring the long-term viability of mathematics departments across Australia. I’ll be back in Oz in July, and I’d be willing to put in some effort to see if this can be done if anybody else is interested. Given the wide variety of fields people who have studied mathematics have permeated, governments and industry might be able to realise that the study of mathematics and statistics is much more important than they have assumed.
The only thing is that we will need people, outside of the university administration system, to run and administer the fund.
I’d like to know if anybody has any ideas or is interested in helping.
Adam Cagliarini
Stanford, CA
my email address is structured as follows:
my first name (dot) surname (AT) gmail.com
7 April, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Dima
As someone with a maths PhD from Australia,
I strongly support this petition
Dmitrii Pasechnik
Assistant Professor in Mathematics
NTU, Singapore
7 April, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Rosa
I strongly support this petition
7 April, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition. In my experience, the more quantitative-related fields such as the sciences and mathematics are promoted, if not expanded, in education institutions, generally. It is certainly disheartening to read that such important disciplines are consciously neglected (if the sciences/maths are being cut, it’s terrifying to imagine what would happen to the humanities).
Alice Kang
University of California, Berkeley
School of Public Health – MPH
7 April, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Matt Falk
I support this petition.
Matt Falk
PhD Student
QUT
7 April, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Jenny
I support this petition.
Jenny Spence
Undergrad in Physics, USQ
7 April, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Anonymous
I support this petition
7 April, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Mike Spence
It took years to shrug off the DDIAE tag and gain a world class reputation for research and the external delivery of subjects. USQ became an institution of which Toowoomba could be proud. It appears that USQ wishes to retro back to a 70’s mentality.
If you diminish Maths and Sciences, who is there to take the concept forward into the schools to make the ‘clever’ country better instead of reinforcing the downward spiral of Maths and Sciences neglect.
7 April, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Sandra Johnson
I strongly support this petition
7 April, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Zaher Hani
I strongly support this petition.
Zaher Hani
Graduate Student
UCLA, Mathematics
7 April, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Khushboo Agarwal
I support this petition.
7 April, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Terence O'Kane
I wholeheartedly support this petition.
Dr Terence O’Kane
Center for Australian Climate & Weather Research
Model Development Group
700 Collins St Docklands
VIC 3008
7 April, 2008 at 3:18 pm
David Overton
I strongly support this petition.
Dr David Overton, PhD (Computer Science, Melbourne, 2003)
R&D Engineer, Cortex IT Labs, Melbourne
7 April, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Thomas Rufford
I support the petition and urge the USQ adminsitrators to find a way to preserve the teaching of mathematics in regional Queensland.
As a chemical engineer having worked previously in industry and now studying for a PhD, I have come to realise that many of the scientific instruments and analysis tools I use would not have been developed without the input of good mathematicians. Access to a quality mathematics education is important not just for those wanting to become mathematicians or physicists, but also for our engineers, technologists, biochemists and even our accountants and university adminstrators.
Thomas Rufford
PhD candidate
School of Engineering
The University of Queensland, St Lucia, Australia
7 April, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Anupama B. Kaul
I strongly support this petition.
As an engineer, and a person who obtained a wonderful primary and high school mathematics education in Australia, I am very saddened to hear of the struggle that Mathematics and Statistics Departments are facing at Australian Universities. Needless to say, mathematics is the cornerstone of many engineering disciplines. Such applied disciplines will ultimately also be impacted by this lack of foresight to diminish matematics education at Australian Universities.
Dr. Anupama B. Kaul
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
California Institute of Technology
7 April, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Anonymous
I support this petition and express concerns about the state of education at USQ.
Ivy Wong
expat astronomer @ Yale University
7 April, 2008 at 4:15 pm
van h. vu
I strongly
support this petition and express concerns about the state of
mathematics education at USQ
and other small universities in Australia in general.
Dr. Van H. Vu
Professor, Department of Mathematics, Rutgers Univ., New Jersey, USA
7 April, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition…..
7 April, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Bernard Ellem
As the Convenor of the UNE Statistics Discipline at Armidale, I support our USQ colleagues in their struggle against unfair and unwarranted disregard by their OWN institution.
Bernard Ellem
University of New England
Armidale NSW 2351
Australia
7 April, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Jason Looker
I strongly support this petition.
By simply focusing on balancing the books and providing services,
universities such as USQ will ultimately end up with a worthless
product.
It is vital for heads of mathematics and statistics departments to
develop a strategic vision that cements mathematics and statistics
research and education as a cornerstone of the university. So when
the bean-counters come knocking, they will be convinced that
mathematics and statistics is too valuable to the university and
society to be underfunded. Is there a communications problem
between mathematics and statistics departments and university
administrators? Is the introverted nature of many mathematicians
and statisticians causing come of these problems?
Dr Jason Looker
Formerly from the Department of Mathematics and Statistics,
The University of Melbourne, Australia.
7 April, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Peter Vamplew
I strongly support this petition. Unfortunately this situation at USQ is merely one example of the problems engendered by the movement to a demand-driven, profit-oriented tertiary education sector in Australia.
Dr Peter Vamplew
Senior Lecturer
School of Information Technology and Mathematical Sciences
University of Ballarat
7 April, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Dr.P. Cybinski
I strongly support this petition.
As a mathematician and a maths/stats educator I have great concerns at the diminishing profile of maths and stats in our universities and the constant dumbing-down of courses. Quality maths education is not just for the relatively few budding mathematicians, physicists or engineers but for anyone interested in a research career whether it be in science or even in business or finance, as well as for teachers who need to educate the people who will make up our “clever country” – a goal that should still be foremost at all levels of education management. Shame on USQ.
Senior Lecturer
The Griffith Business School
Griffith University
Brisbane , Australia
7 April, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Larry Forbes
I strongly support the petition to maintain and develop the Mathematics and Mathematics Major at USQ.
There is no longer any doubt that Mathematics is vital to Australia’s continued prosperity in the more traditional areas such as engineering, the mining sector and innovative niche manufacturing. Mathematics is also a vital key to the emerging new areas such as bio-engineering, gene technology and micro/nano manufacturing. If Australia is to be part of the future, it is absolutely vital that it maintain and expand its teaching and research in the fundamental enabling sciences of Mathematics, physics and chemistry.
I urge USQ to maintain teaching and research programmes to the highest level in Mathematics. To fail in this is to break a fundamental covenant with the Australian community, which depends on its university sector for sensible advice about teaching and research in areas that will give us a stake in the future.
Professor Larry Forbes
Head, School of Mathematics and Physics
University of Tasmania
7 April, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Melissa Tacy
I support this petition
However we as mathematicians need to do more than simply react when such problems come up, otherwise we will be constantly rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
Our education system (at all levels) has been moving steadily away from developing students’ fundamental knowledge. We are creating a generation of Australians who will only be able to use technology not create it, but everyone signing this petition already knows that. We need to persuade everyone from government officials down to the parents next door that this superficial learning impoverishes our skills base as a nation and as individuals, only then will we see any real change.
Melissa Tacy
Visiting Student Researcher, Berkeley (Fulbright Scholar)
Graduate Student, ANU Department of Mathematics
7 April, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Nicholas Evans
I strongly support this petition.
I encourage the full funding support for the Mathematics Department at The University of Southern Queensland. I am a Science and Mathematics Graduate from The University of NSW and Hons Graduate from University of Newcastle. All smart young people deserve the chance to study maths at the university of their chosing and not just end up as an accountant. Maths Graduates will bring knowledge and innovation and wealth to the Nation. Ignore maths at our peril. Similar wealth is created by university engineering departments. I encourage any moves to reduce fees to study these Nationally important subjects.
7 April, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Charles Little
I fully support the petition against the cuts to mathematics at the
University of Southern Queensland and urge the university to reconsider.
Charles Little
Professor of Mathematics, Massey University
7 April, 2008 at 5:13 pm
Bevan Thompson
The comments above including those of Peter Hall, Hyam Rubinstein, and Barry Hughes reflect the concerns of many professionals teaching mathematics.
7 April, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Vaughan Jones
A university has no right to call itself such if it does not have a mathematics department involved in the furthering of the subject. I strongly support the petition.
Vaughan Jones
Professor, University of California, Berkeley
7 April, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Sam Benson
I support this petition. Maths underpins much in developing the country, the economy and without sufficent mathematicians we as a nation would struggle.
7 April, 2008 at 5:33 pm
clovis Nguefang Sukam
I strongly support the petition.
There is a need for more mathematics out there, not less.
May be one should tell CNN or CBs’s 60 minutes about it.
If these journalists take the hold of this story, politicians will surely listen!
Clovis
7 April, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Tammy Simpson
I fully support this petition
When you go to shops these days and find that their staff can’t even count backwards and need to imput amounts to work out change, you know there is a problem with the system. Maths is used in everyone’s everyday life.
Where I study I’m very greatful for the mathematic programs they offer. Although challenging at times, its something that I find to be very useful
Tammy Simpson
Bcom – Major Accounting
Bond University
7 April, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Vsevolod Lev
Prof. Vsevolod F. Lev
Department of Mathematics
The University of Haifa at Oranim
Tivon, Israel
7 April, 2008 at 5:51 pm
John Murray
I strongly support this petition.
Associate Professor John Murray
School of Mathematics and Statistics
University of NSW
7 April, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Dr Than Pe
I fully support the petition against the cuts to mathematics at the
University of Southern Queensland and urge senior management of the university to reconsider and make wise decision.
7 April, 2008 at 6:00 pm
J. Ellenberg
I strongly support the petition. A thriving, active, self-supporting mathematical research community, such as the one Australia has traditionally enjoyed, is not an easy thing to create, and the list of countries that have done it is short. The list of countries that have been foolish enough to intentionally dismantle such a community is even shorter, and not to be aspired to.
7 April, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Professor Rob Hyndman
This petition has my support.
Professor Rob Hyndman
Department of Econometrics & Business Statistics
Monash University
7 April, 2008 at 6:05 pm
David Warton
I support this partition.
David Warton
Senior Lecturer
School of Mathematics and Statistics
The University of New South Wales
7 April, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition
Esther Meenken
Biometrician
Crop & Food Research
New Zealand
7 April, 2008 at 6:13 pm
Scott Carter
I support this petition. A mathematics department at a University is not a mathematics department if its only duties are service courses for other departments.
7 April, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Patrick Cordue
There is a worldwide shortage of quantitatively skilled people. The proposed cutbacks are very hard to fathom.
Principal consultant
Innovative Solutions Ltd
New Zealand
7 April, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Marc Raimondo
I strongly support this petition.
7 April, 2008 at 6:22 pm
Helena Oakey
I strongly support this petition. Mathematics and Statistics are fundamental subjects in their own right. The importance of continued research in these areas should not be underestimated, it has a knock on benefit for almost every other subject from psychology through to plant science.
Helena Oakey
Senior Statistician
University of Adelaide
7 April, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Simon Blomberg
I support this petition. We need more people with quantitative skills. Properly funded university mathematics and statistics departments that do research as well as teach are the only way to achieve this. Australia’s commitment to maths and stats is embarrassing for an OECD country.
Simon Blomberg
Lecturer and Consultant Statistician
School of Integrative Biology
University of Queensland
7 April, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Duncan Mortimer
I too strongly support this petition. I’m also eagerly awaiting the time that Australian universities recognise that paying lip-service to core educational disciplines – I believe that maths and stats are about as “core” as you can get… – will ultimately debase the “product” they are “selling”. Namely, a quality education.
Duncan Mortimer,
PhD Student,
Queensland Brain Institute,
University of Queensland
7 April, 2008 at 6:38 pm
David Scott
I strongly support this petition. A university which relegates important disciplines to service teaching only is not worthy of the name.
David Scott
Associate Professor of Statistics
University of Auckland
7 April, 2008 at 6:49 pm
Barbara Roberts
I strongly support this petition, and it is not right that USQ management continue to declare to current and future students that the proposed cuts will not mean a reduction in the teaching and research of mathematics at USQ – there are a lot of things at stake here, and truth is one of them.
Barbara Roberts
Lecturer in IS
USQ
7 April, 2008 at 6:53 pm
Prof. M. Kawski
I strongly support the petition to NOT cut mathematics, statistics,
and computing at the University of Southern Queensland (USQ).
I have visited the maths department at USQ in the past and was
impressed by their excellent work reaching out to diverse clienteles
which is only possible by maintaining a credible core of majors in
the subject and faculty engaged in active scholarship.
Reducing a department to only provide “service” is suicidal for the
entire academic mission. In particular, in math and the sciences
where major breakthroughs happen on a daily basis it is utter
nonsense to eliminate scholarship. Programs and faculty that are
reduced to “service” only will be irrelevant almost instantaneously.
It appears that this plan was conceived by administrators who
simply do not understand the break-neck pace at which math and
the sciences are evolving, administrators who do not understand
that the maths they may have learnt in the 70s is completely
inadequate today. Maths is quickly changing, and requires competent
teachers — which requires that they are engaged scholarly, that
there are degree programs in the major. There is no cell-phone,
no modern computer, no internet, no low-emission car, no safe
stability-controlled car, no … you name it … without mathematical
breakthroughs of the last few decades. Without maths USQ will
become completely irrelevant. You have excellent people at USQ,
and a most promising future … don’t waste such opportunity!
7 April, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Deborah Hughes Hallett
This petition has my strong support; USQ students deserve the same opportunity to learn mathematics as their counterparts abroad.
Deborah Hughes Hallett
Professor of Mathematics, University of Arizona
Adjunct Professor of Public Policy, Harvard
7 April, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
As a member of the USQ community, I find it hard to reconcile this plan to let go of valuable academic staff with the seemingly endless stream of non-academic (mostly IT support) job positions that the university is currently advertising almost every week. This certainly brings up the question of how the university is utilising the revenues directly earned by hard-working academic staff.
The university management’s slogan for this downsizing is “Realising our Potential”. But isn’t a quality mathematics department that has been developed over the years part of the university’s potential? That they may not have great numbers can be largely attributed to failure in marketing. The academics in the mathematics department should not have to bear the brunt of the accumulated effects of the mismanagement of academic programs by decision makers.
Associate Lecturer
Faculty of Business
University of Southern Queensland
7 April, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Jo Spring
As a maths and computing teacher in a high school, I also strongly support this petition.
Jo Spring
Director of Computing
Lindisfarne Anglican Grammar School
7 April, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Ivanky Saputra
I strongly support this petition.
They may not see the importance of mathematics, but they will be. I am sure. Let’s hope a better solution will come out soon.
7 April, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Eder Kikianty
I strongly support this petition. Mathematics is important and crucial, not only for students in Maths department, but for others as well.
Eder Kikianty
PhD Student, School of Computer Science and Mathematics,
Victoria University
7 April, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Adrian Banner
I strongly support this petition.
Adrian Banner
Mathematics, Princeton University
7 April, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Richard Fraccaro
I support this petition, but would highlight the growing reliance on data mining in the commercial sector for data analytics. In academic circles, data mining tends to be the province of the Computer Sciences, and practiced by those with little or no formal training in statistical inference. Data mining is often incorrectly promoted as being a collection of ‘black box’ techniques (even when they include classical statistical methods, eg logistic regression!). In fact, formal training in statistical inference trains the mind to properly use data mining techniques and to appreciate important subtleties that are missed by those not similarly trained. I have no doubt that Maths and Stats would have much greater relevance if academics/practicioners embraced data mining, included it in our formal training, etc.
7 April, 2008 at 7:19 pm
Pam Davy
Graduate mathematicians and statisticians are in high demand within Australian government and industry. Cutting academic staff in these areas is short-sighted and potentially very damaging to the reputation of USQ.
Senior Lecturer in Statistics
School of Mathematics and Applied Statistics
University of Wollongong
7 April, 2008 at 7:21 pm
Anonymous
I fully support this petition
Alex Hua
Melbourne University
7 April, 2008 at 7:25 pm
Qiwei Yao
I strongly support this petition.
Qiwei Yao
Professor of Statistics
London School of Economics
7 April, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Marta Pecuch-Herrero
I strongly support this petition. Those who are proposing the cuts should be made aware that the University would be irreparably damaged by reducing the Mathematics Department to teaching service courses.
7 April, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Jonathan Sparling
Jonathan Sparling
PhD Candidate in Mathematics
University of Chicago
7 April, 2008 at 7:51 pm
David Reid
I wholeheartedly support this petition. It is yet further evidence that we are being driven by administrators with no regard for enhancing education or equiping people for life.
David Reid
Principal Biometrician
DPI&F (Qld)
7 April, 2008 at 7:55 pm
Carol Knox
I strongly support this petition
Carol Knox
Director of Mathematics
Lindisfarne Anglican Grammar School
7 April, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Margie Smith
I strongly support this petition.
We have one university in town that has “lost” it’s Mathematics Department and I am sure that there have been others around Australia that have gone the same way.
If this issue is not highlighted, soon we will have to travel overseas to study Mathematics or just be content with the “lite-maths” on offer at the Australian Universities.
Margie Smith
Canberra College
Australia
7 April, 2008 at 7:57 pm
Jan Thomas
Where do I start? Those of you who know me, know that I have been battling in many ways for the mathematical sciences in Australia for a long time. So let me put USQ in context and stress how really important this issue is.
Back in the mid 80s I was happily working with teachers on issues related to language and mathematics. Then in the late 80s bureaucrats decided that a particularly nasty version of a national mathematics curriculum meant that the various education departments didn’t need specialist like me helping schools because this document solved all. About this time I got involved at the national level with the politics of mathematical sciences in Australia. After all, it’s no good writing about inequity in mathematics education for students from indigenous or other backgrounds who are being failed by the system if there are fundamental problems with teacher supply, university offerings and a host of other things. So here I am, 20 years on and should be retired, still fighting a battle for what should be the right of every young Australian, a first-rate mathematics education.
The battle to save mathematics and statistics at USQ is much bigger than a single university but winning it is fundamental to winning equity, access, social justice and social inclusion for many young Australians. If we don’t fix the problem in the universities, we don’t have teachers and the teachers we do have go to the schools of the privileged.
There is only one mathematician left at Charles Darwin University in the Northern Territory which is home to many of our indigenous people. It is hard enough for young people from any remote community to relocate for their education but harder still for those tied closely to their families and land.
I keep doing what I can. I’ve been helped by many wonderful mathematical scientist over the years who don’t seem to mind that I’m not actually a mathematician. I’m technically an organic chemist according to a rather dated piece of paper. I also have some good genes for this – my father was a politician.
Garth Gaudry was a mathematical mentor to Terry. I particularly want to acknowledge the wonderful support and help Garth has given me since we first met in the late 80s. There are others too numerous to mention but Garth was the first to assist me into the politics of all this. So I do now have some pretty good political connections and some good media people to call on.
The formation of the Australian Mathematical Sciences Institute (AMSI) has given me a base to support all our members and the mathematical community more generally. But we have to re-build that community. Not just at USQ by at Charles Darwin, Flinders and others. We need to expand it in the bigger universities who have also suffered greatly in the last ten years or so.
USQ is the tip of a very large ice-berg. There should be no compromise over this. USQ should be expanding its offerings, not closing them off. As should every other university in Australia.
This is not just about mathematics and statistics or research in universities. This is a fundamental equity and social inclusion issue and university administrators across Australia have an obligation to the nation to help solve it, not make it worse. This includes those at USQ.
Jan Thomas
Executive Officer, AMSI
7 April, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Boris Choy
I strongly support the petition.
Boris Choy,
University of Technology Sydney
7 April, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Anonymous
I strongly endorse this petition and urge the university administration to devise a solution that will not undercut the quality of education for students in the mathematic and science fields.
Lorraine Goo
Los Angeles, CA
7 April, 2008 at 8:30 pm
Narelle Beaumont
I strongly support this petition.
Narelle Beaumont
Lecturer in Tourism
Faculty of Business
University of Southern Queensland
7 April, 2008 at 8:30 pm
John Coates
I grew up in the New South Wales countryside and was able to become a mathematician thanks to an enlightened system of support which then existed for the teaching of mathematics in both country high schools and universities around Australia. It has really saddened me to see this support so badly eroded over the last 15 years throughout Australia. When the federal government recently announced at last additional funds for mathematics in Australian universities, I hoped that there was again a new chance for young Australians to learn and practice a discipline which is fundamental both for the economy and civilization. The action of the University of Southern Queensland in doing away with all non-service teaching courses in mathematics seems to run comletely contrary to this hope.
John Coates, Sadleirian Professor of Pure Mathematics, University of Cambridge, FRS
7 April, 2008 at 8:35 pm
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
Larry Zhang
College of Sciences
Massey University (Wellington)
7 April, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Anonymous
I support this petition.
Math = good.
More Math.
Nicole Kim
Graduate Student 09
Columbia University School of Social Work
7 April, 2008 at 8:42 pm
John Stillwell
I strongly support this petition, and thanks, Terry, for raising
the issue. It is heartbreaking to see the continued destruction
of a once-great system of mathematics education.
John Stillwell
University of San Francisco
(and honorary member of Monash University)
7 April, 2008 at 8:49 pm
Dr Gary Carter
I fully support the petition to “save” mathematics and statistics at USQ. What USQ is doing is flying in the face of the most pressing educational needs as identified by all state and federal governments. Situations such as the one at USQ do not arise overnight. These situations trend. My question is why has the administration at USQ ignored this trend? It beggars belief that they were not aware of it. Had they begun an active marketing campaign as soon as the trend was observed, as countless other universities have had to do, there is every chance that such a situation as they now find themselves in would not have arisen. This appears to be fairly and squarely a case of misjudgement on the part of the university administration. I thus urge USQ to reconsider its proposed cuts to mathematics and statistics.
Dr Gary Carter, School of Mathematical Sciences, QUT.
7 April, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Michael Jennings
I strongly support this petition.
7 April, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Scott Foster
I support the petition.
7 April, 2008 at 8:55 pm
John Field
I strongly support the petition. From the demand for statistical consulting in industry which I see through my work, it is apparent that Australia needs more, not less, mathematics and statistics graduates.
John Field
John Field Consulting Pty Ltd
Adelaide SA
7 April, 2008 at 8:56 pm
Suzanne Curtis
This is a very important issue. We need strong maths, stats and computing departments in our universities to train our future generations. How can we claim to be a “clever country” if we do not support ( and be seen to be supporting) such basic and essential areas?
Suzanne Curtis
Associate Lecturer
Statistics
Macquarie University
7 April, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Josh McDaniel
I support this petition. Mathematics, Statistics, and Computer Science are important in our everyday lives and we need to support work in these areas more than ever in the future.
Josh McDaniel
Graduate Student
Department of Mathematics and Statistics
Arizona State University
7 April, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Muhammad Akram
I strongly support the petition. I worked in statistical consulting for some times and from this experience I know that there is a huge demand of statistics and mathematics in Australia.
Muhamamd Akram
Research-Fellow
Monash University Australia
7 April, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Alex Stuckey
I strongly support this petition.
Alex Stuckey
PhD student
School of Mathematics and Statistics
University of Western Australia
7 April, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Dr Chris Brien
I strongly support this petition. It seems short-sighted to be contemplating such a cut at a time when the government is starting to recognize the need to promote mathematics and statistics.
Chris Brien
Senior Lecturer in Statistics
University of Sth Australia
7 April, 2008 at 9:19 pm
Ray Hingst
If mathematics and statistics are reduced to a token profile at USQ, student opportunity, faculty staff and the university’s reputation will all suffer a diminution. The resonance this issue has created around the world is testament to its importance. This petition has united the voices of many in support of mathematicss and statistics in a manner that USQ management could only wish to focus on the university generally.
Hopefully reason will prevail and our expressions count.
Ray Hingst
Lecturer
Faculty of Business
University of Southern Queensland
7 April, 2008 at 9:19 pm
Chris Lloyd
While endorsing the aim of the petition, the reason UQ is doing this is because they make much more mooney from full fee paying Asian students. Local students make much less money for the uni. I imagine Lovegrove will argue that the extra money he gets from foreign students will be put into research, and that he sees his mission as promoting research rather than training statisticians.
You either get the government to fund local students at around $20k per year, or you set up an incentive for our universities to shun local students.
Chris Lloyd
University of Melbourne
7 April, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Lewis Mitchell
I strongly support this petition.
Lewis Mitchell
PHD student
University of Sydney
7 April, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Bob Murison
I sign this petition and endorse all said above.
I got my start at the DDIAE ( it became USQ) and they taught maths well enough to enable me to kick on at sandstone universities. Many other statisticians profited likewise. As Australia cries out for mathematicians, sources such as USQ are critical.
USQ knows the Federal government’s priorities in rebuilding mathematics for Australia to be competitive in industry, commerce and science. Rejection of that plan is foolhardy.
The optimism for other areas to grow ignores their need to exploit modern mathematics so USQ may be risking those disciplines rather than promoting them.
Bob Murison
School of science & technology
University of New England
7 April, 2008 at 9:45 pm
Anonymous
support
7 April, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Colleen Duke
I strongly support this petition.
Colleen Duke
Current finance/Maths Student
University of Southern Queensland
7 April, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Mervyn J Silvapulle
Professor Peter Hall has summarized the points and hence no need to reiterate.
Thanks to Professor Terry Tao for your active support and interest in this matter.
Professor Mervyn J. Silvapulle
Monash University.
7 April, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Anonymous
I support the petition.
A decision based on sectional/divisional financial analysis overlooks the interconnections between faculties, departments and individuals — now and in the future.
Dr Peter J Phillips
Lecturer in Finance
University of Southern Queensland
7 April, 2008 at 10:03 pm
Frances Griffin
I strongly support this petition!
How stupid does the UQ administration have to be, not to realise that the good students will not go there to study science, technology or economics if it is not supported by a strong mathematics department?
Frances Griffin
Associate Lecturer
Department of Mathematics
Macquarie University
7 April, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Anonymous
I totally support this petition.
The most innovative applications often come
from good mathematical ideas.
7 April, 2008 at 10:17 pm
Louise Lillicrap
I strongly support this petition. We live in an age where there are many and increasing pressures to find the most efficient and equitable use of resources and finances. Well trained mathematicians and statisticians play a crucial role in this process.
Louise Lillicrap
Research and Evaluation Coordinator
Great Southern Population Health
7 April, 2008 at 10:18 pm
Anonymous
I support this petition.
Ido Efrat
Department of Mathematics
Ben-Gurion University of the Negev
Be’er-Sheva, Israel
7 April, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Irene Penesis
I strongly support this petition.
Irene Penesis
Senior Lecturer in Mathematics
National Centre for Maritime Engineering and Hydrodynamics
AMC
University of Tasmania
7 April, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Cath Harris
I strongly support this petition.
Not only are Australian artists heading overseas for training, careers and recognition, but the ideas and technology developed by our vibrant and innovative mathematical and scientific community is as well, to the detriment of Australia’s reputation and ability to face it’s own energy challenges. I think being an advanced mathematician is as creative as any artistic endeavour.
My, my, how USQ has fallen from its heady days of 2000-01 Joint Winner of University of the Year from the Good Universities Guide!
Meanwhile, I went to Oakey State High School (20 mins west from Toowoomba) and was good friends with Jason Austin, who went on to be the 2001 USQ University Medal recipient – the University’s highest honour – and he was also awarded the 2000 Institution of Engineers’ Australia Wilmoth Medal and Prize (http://www.usq.edu.au/resources/usqregalia.pdf or http://www.usq.edu.au/resources/18apr.pdf).
The man’s a genius and if USQ didn’t offer fantastic engineering and mathematics courses, I doubt they would ever have attracted someone of Jason’s calibre!
This appalling situation at USQ speaks volumes of the crumbling standards of education within the tertiary education sector in Australia.
Cath Harris, BA in Comcn (Hons), DipGovt (Mngt), GradDipEd&Pub
Communication Specialist and concerned citizen
Melbourne
7 April, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Warren Muller
As an applied statistician I see the need for a strong mathematics and statistics background for future statisticians, and for scientists in a wide range of disciplines to have the opportunity to collaborate with and seek advice from statisticians. The USQ proposal, if adopted, would further weaken mathematics and statistics in Australia and create a poor impression about mathematics and statistics among USQ graduates in other areas.
I strongly support this petition.
Warren Muller
CSIRO Mathematical and Information Sciences
Canberra
7 April, 2008 at 10:23 pm
Samuel Mueller
I strongly support this petition.
Dr Samuel Mueller
Lecturer
School of Mathematics and Statistics,
University of Sydney
7 April, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Professor Saroja Selvanathan
I strongly support this petition.
7 April, 2008 at 10:33 pm
Anonymous
I totally support this petition. Good luck.
7 April, 2008 at 10:47 pm
Dr Kuldeep Kumar
Mathematics and Statistics courses are integral part of any University Curriculum. These subjects also provide service courses which should be taught by qualified statistcians rather than Faculty from other discipline. They support Humanities, Medical, Agriculture, IT and other schools. I am sure student numbers in Statistics will increase after the TV program like Numbers (enrolement in Forensic Science increased after CSI program started). Also University should acknowledge the fact that numeracy skill is going down amongst students and they can’t do even simple calculation. Maths and Stats should be a core course in all disciplines. Hence Faculty strength should increase rather than decreasing.
7 April, 2008 at 10:51 pm
Michael Lin
I strongly support the petition.
Michael Lin, Ben-Gurion University, Israel
7 April, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Andrew Anson
As a student currently studying mathematics in Adelaide, Terry Tao’s home town, I support his petition and will attempt to create awareness of the situation around Adelaide.
Well done Terry!!
7 April, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Dr Barbara Maenhaut
I strongly support this petition.
Dr Barbara Maenhaut
Mathematics Lecturer
The University of Queensland
7 April, 2008 at 10:54 pm
Gordon Smyth
I strongly support this petition. It is hard to imagine how any serious university could propose to close down its mathematics department, which is what USQ is effectively doing. Graduates with high-level mathematics and statistics expertise are essential to support research across the whole range of the sciences.
Dr Gordon Smyth
WEHI Senior Research Fellow
Bioinformatics Division
Walter and Eliza Hall Institute of Medical Research
7 April, 2008 at 10:59 pm
Prof Johann Engelbrecht
In the light of the shortage of mathematics, science and technology people worldwide, I find it quite surprising that any mathematics department in the world should be cutting down on staff. This particular department has some very good people that are known internationally and are very much involved in international collaboration projects such as the Delta movement (consisting of countries in the southern hemisphere). In my country (South Africa) we need more good mathematicians and are very careful about how we treat them. I am sure we will welcome staff members that lose their positions at USQ! Apparently Australia can afford losing these people?
Prof Johann Engelbrecht (Professor of Mathematics, University of Pretoria, South Africa, Director of the SA Mathematics Foundation and current chairperson of the DELTA movement)
7 April, 2008 at 10:59 pm
David Green
I strongly support this petition.
7 April, 2008 at 11:03 pm
Assoc Prof John Shepherd
As a working academic mathematician in an Australian metropolitan university, I strongly support this petition. I am deeply concerned at this
and other recent actions directed at undermining the status of mathematics in our universities.
7 April, 2008 at 11:06 pm
Lindsay Peters
I also strongly support this position
7 April, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Kevin Wang
I strongly support this petition.
As a former Young Statisticians’ Representative of the Canberra Branch of the SSAI, I worked very hard with representatives from other states and territories to recruit student members. It is therefore extremely disheartening to see this proposal made by the USQ. There is a shortage of statisticians across almost all major job markets in the country, not the least being major government departments, banking/financial industries and pharmaceutical companies. Good and sensible educators should therefore be encouraging students to study statistics!
Kevin Wang, GStat
7 April, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Ewan Barker
I strongly support this petition.
Ewan Barker
Information Technology and Mathematical Sciences
University of Ballarat
7 April, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Annette Dobson
I strongly support the petition. The need for Mathematics and Statistics is everywhere. If you lose Mathematics and Statistics then you lose Engineering, Bioinformatics and other disciplines that are crucial to Australia’s future. To close Mathematics and Statistics at regional universities like USQ is to deprive students from country areas of the opportunity to qualify to compete in a flatter world.
Annette Dobson, Professor of Biostatistics, University of Queensland
7 April, 2008 at 11:23 pm
Susan Worsley
I strongly support this petition.
Maths Honours Student
University of Queensland
Australia
7 April, 2008 at 11:26 pm
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
Daniel Norrison
7 April, 2008 at 11:28 pm
Anonymous
I support this petition. An Australia-wide shortage of scientists, statisticians, mathematicians and mathematic teachers is well documented. The proposed cuts at USQ are therefore very surprising and disheartening.
Matthew Williams
Senior Research Scientist
Department of Environment and Conservation, WA
7 April, 2008 at 11:33 pm
Rob Reeves
I also strongly support the petition. It is shameful that a university worthy of the name plans to have no maths or statistics department training specialist mathematicians and statisticians. It speaks volumes about the university management that they even should consider such a retrograde step. It indicates to me a failure to comprehend the meaning of the word University, a failure to appreciate the nature of scientific education and mathematical literacy, and an abdication of responsibility to future generations of students. Universities, as the custodians, developers, and interpreters of human knowledge, have a responsibility to take every possible action to fulfill their custodianship, in the interests of a prosperous future for the nation. For the university administrators to so abjectly repudiate their responsibilities in this way bodes ill for the country, and serves as a dire appraisal of Australian higher education policy over the last decades.
Rob Reeves
Lecturer in Statistics
Queensland University of Technology
7 April, 2008 at 11:33 pm
Lars R Knudsen
I support this petition.
Lars R Knudsen
Professor
DTU Mathematics, Denmark
7 April, 2008 at 11:34 pm
Dr Eddie Ly
I strongly support this petition.
7 April, 2008 at 11:38 pm
Prof Ansie Harding
I strongly support this petition.
7 April, 2008 at 11:38 pm
Dr Bruce D Craven
I strongly support this petition. It is extremely important that USQ, and other Australian universities, retain viable department of mathematics and statistics, thus not only minimal service courses. Mathematics and statistics are important, not just for heir own sakes, but because these disciplines are critically required for most other areas of science and technology.
7 April, 2008 at 11:42 pm
Yihong Du
I strongly support this petition. This action of USQ is short-sighted. The cost of its reputation will far overweight the short-term financial savings.
Yihong Du
Professor of Mathematics
University of New England, Armidale
7 April, 2008 at 11:52 pm
Andrew Jenkins
It is vital that all Universities retain strength in the fundamental disciplines. I strongly support this petition.
Andrew Jenkins
Head of Credit Derivatives Quantitative Development
The Royal Bank of Scotland
8 April, 2008 at 12:02 am
Joan Hendrikz
I strongly and unequivocally support this petition.
The intentions to down size and weaken the Department of Mathematics and Computing would make USQ the most unsmart university in the smart state, and quite frankly an academic embarrassment for the campus.
Member of SSAI
8 April, 2008 at 12:07 am
Peter Taylor
Clearly comments from people like Peter Hall and John Henstridge highlight the parlous state of mathematics in Australia.
It is a complex problem without easy solution but it would help if government could take more direct interest.
I can understand a University cutting a vocational course if uneconomic, however for a University to really be called a University and be positioned for future opportunities it really needs to maintain a core knowledge of fundamental subjects in the arts and sciences, certainly including mathematics.
Professsor Peter Taylor
Executive Director
Australian Mathematics Trust
8 April, 2008 at 12:22 am
Robert Dale
I strongly endorse this petition.
Professor Robert Dale
Department of Computing
Macquarie University, Australia
8 April, 2008 at 12:22 am
John Piperias
I sincerely endorse the petition to preserve, retain and improve upon the capabilities of the USQ Mathematics, Computing and associated departments. The core sciences are the breeding areas of Australia’s research and development, and will be the springboard to much of the innovation, creativity and indeed our future aspirations in Australia.
John Piperias
Senior Lecturer Computing Science
Middlesex University – Dubai
8 April, 2008 at 12:31 am
Kristen Moore
I support this petition.
PhD Student,
Albert Einstein Institute, Germany.
8 April, 2008 at 12:41 am
Stephen Muirhead
I suppose this petition.
Student
Melbourne University
8 April, 2008 at 12:43 am
Maryanne Large
What kind of University doesn’t have a decent maths department?
A mickey mouse one.
I strongly endorse this petition.
Dr Maryanne Large
ARC Fellow, University of Sydney
8 April, 2008 at 12:47 am
Samir Saker
I strongly support this petition. Mathematics is necessary in different areas, in biology, ecology, population dynmics, etc. No body can ignore this reality.
Dr. Samir Saker
King Saud University
8 April, 2008 at 12:52 am
David Farmer
I strongly support this petition.
PhD Student
RMIT University, Melbourne.
8 April, 2008 at 1:02 am
Giancarlo Travaglini
I strongly support this petition and I hope a reasonable compromise will be found.
8 April, 2008 at 1:10 am
Bertfried Fauser
The reduction of a Department to service teaching only, will inevitably cut down the ability to guide Students to a high level of sophistication, cutting down their career chances and the potential to serve a comunity. For that reason I strongly support this petition.
8 April, 2008 at 1:22 am
D. Tilakaratne
I strongly support his petition.
8 April, 2008 at 1:26 am
Graham Broughton
Professor Tao. I fully support this petition. As a practicing teacher in a remote location I can only upgrade my knowledge and skills through distance education. I am currently enrolled in a Graduate Diploma in Maths at USQ. The staff in Mathematics, Statistics and Computing there do a magnificent job. What the USQ hierarchy is proposing is at best intellectual vandalism.
8 April, 2008 at 1:29 am
Adrian Barnett
This is a real shame. There are good people in this department doing valuable research and teaching.
Statistician
Queensland University of Technology
8 April, 2008 at 1:32 am
Dominic Di Martino
It has always been my view that humanity’s greatest achievement has been the discovery of the universal language of mathematics and the immutable laws that govern all of our universe. USQ has stood amongst a small group of institutions dedicated to the development and training of mathematics in this country. I strongly urge all to please reconsider this decision and reinstate USQ’s leadership in mathematics and statistics. Dominic Di Martino. Student at USQ.
8 April, 2008 at 1:33 am
Anthony Carbery
I fully support this important petition.
Anthony Carbery FRSE
Colin Maclaurin Professor of Mathematics,
University of Edinburgh
8 April, 2008 at 1:33 am
Carlo Hämäläinen
As a recently expatriated Australian mathematician, I support this petition.
Carlo Hämäläinen
Postdoc
Charles University, Prague
8 April, 2008 at 1:41 am
Abdul Rahim Khan,KFUPM,Saudi Arabia
I fully support this important petition.
8 April, 2008 at 1:50 am
Brailey Sims
This petition has my strongest support. I am appalled that any university administration would even contemplate reductions such as those proposed for Mathematics at the University(?) of Southern Queensland.
It beggars the imagination that such an action could be entertained in the face of our dire national shortage of skilled mathematicians, statisticians, scientists and engineers not to mention the compounding desperate need throughout our education systems for many more qualified mathematics and science teachers.
I urge USQ to reconsider, and better position itself to help address the skills crisis rather than contribute to it.
Brailey Sims FAustMS
Deputy President Academic Senate
A/Professor of Mathematics and Head of Discipline
School of Mathematical and Physical Sciences
The University of Newcastle
8 April, 2008 at 1:51 am
Henry P Wynn
I fully support the petition to support maths computing and statistics at USQ and the “test” of the petition in particular.
Ask any serious academic and they will say that a strong department of this kind is an essentially feature of a modern university and I cannot think of a single reason in which a cut back would needed. The opportunties for students with these quintesentially logical, numerate and modelling skills are simply fantastic. Name any area of science and it will be simply desparate to have such people working in it: mathematical/system biology, envrironmemtal modelling, insurance risk, econometrics etc etc. And the same for industry and government. The research opportunities in these hybrid areas are huge. But also within and between the trio of maths, stats and computer science the opportunties are also huge: machine/statistical learning, algebraic statistics, discrete mathematics and optimisation, coding and cryptology, symbolic algebra, dynamical systems etc etc. far from being a declining area in the UK and Europe, and against predictions, applications for maths course are INCREASING. There is a rumour that in Italy, which has done a great job marketing mathematics, applications to university to do maths has DOUBLED in two years. Cutting back on these areas is a way of removing OPTIONS and is a guarantee to miss out on this renaisance. It seems to me to be immensely short-sighted.
Think again!
8 April, 2008 at 1:55 am
Anonymous
Suit Lean
I strongly endorse this petition.
Thanks to everyone especially Pro. Terry Tao expressing great concern over the proposed cuts
Member of SSAI
8 April, 2008 at 1:55 am
stephane chretien
I strongly support this petition
stephane chretien
Mathematics Department
Universite de Franche Comte
France
8 April, 2008 at 2:18 am
Dr Chris Harman
I strongly support the wording and the intent of the petition. As a retired academic and a former head of the USQ department in question, I am in a good position to comment further. The department is one of the leaders at USQ in research activity and output. Just as importantly, the department has developed into a position of renowned excellence in teaching of university level mathematics and statistics. This has been backed up by internationally recognised research into the theory and practice of teaching undergraduate students. I well know at first hand that students appreciate the high quality of teaching in mathematics & statistics at USQ, but it is a pity sometimes that the message does not seem to filter through to university decision makers. By cutting back to a small number of service teaching staff in these subject areas, students will suffer, USQ will suffer a decline in standards, and Australian industry and society will suffer at a time when it is becoming obvious to governments and industry that we need, and are getting, more investment in science and mathematics. The irony of the planned cutback is beyond comprehension.
Chris Harman
Retired Associate Professor of Mathematics
Former Head of Department, USQ
8 April, 2008 at 2:35 am
William Hart
Having worked overseas for a number of years now in Mathematics, I can certainly attest to the fact that a strong mathematics department is integral to the health of the research profile and undergraduate strength of a university. The same can be said of computing.
As a former IMO member for Australia, I am appalled by the proposal to wipe out mathematics at this Australian university. I can only imagine it comes from the mind of a terribly shortsighted individual who is not competent enough to understand the importance of the mathematical sciences. They certainly cannot add up, anyway.
Look at history and understand that from ancient times mathematics was the lynch pin of education, culture and civilisation. In fact, at one point, all areas of knowledge were considered parts of mathematics. The decline of mathematics can only mean the decline of civilisation and is something we should be terribly afraid of.
William Hart
Research Fellow
Mathematical Insititute
Warwick University
Former IMO Team Member
8 April, 2008 at 3:01 am
Robert G. Staudte
When I arrived in Australia in 1974, the University
system was strong. In particular, Mathematics and Statistics were highly regarded disciplines.
After the Dawkins ‘reforms’ many other tertiary institutions were given the title University,
without justification or real financial support. All
institutions in the new system were treated as businesses, rather than adequately funded social institutions. The result has been a deterioration in
the programs at all universities, and a large increase in financial burden for students.
The situation at USQ is symptomatic of the malaise facing the tertiary sector, and the only heartening aspect is the overwhelmning support
shown by the national and international community
for the mathematicians, statisticians and computer scientists under the chopping block at USQ
Without a major change in thinking about the
nature of the tertiary sector by the federal government, and the importance of it to this nation’s future, the USQ ‘business decisions’ will continue to be repeated throughout the country.
It is time for big changes and action, not more tinkering with the system, but I am not optimistic.
8 April, 2008 at 3:05 am
Peter Adams
I am extremely disappointed at the proposed decimation of mathematics and statistics at USQ. Such a step would be very damaging to Queensland, and would help to perpetuate the serious problems in secondary and tertiary mathematics education in the state. More generally, I do not understand why mathematics/statistics is so often seen as an appropriate target for such drastic cuts.
Peter Adams,
Prfoessor of Mathematics,
The University of Queensland.
8 April, 2008 at 3:16 am
Wilson Ong
I strongly support this petition.
It is very important to receive a through undergraduate education before considering more advanced problems.
Wilson Ong
Mathematics/CompSci Student
The University of Western Australia
8 April, 2008 at 3:24 am
Ragnar Norberg
If the world were governed by a small collection of simple deterministic laws, I might not have supported this petition. However, since almost all important and interesting phenomena are complex and typically involve chance variations, I do support the petition. Advanced mathematical modeling is essential in virtually all sciences and to their countless applications in a science-based society – in engineering, medicine, management, government, business, and so forth. It is a widespead misconception that mathematics is just a toolkit from which suitable formulas can be fetched each time some calculation is needed. The truth is that mathematics has grown in close interaction with and in response to the challenges posed by its applications. A strong academic unit in mathematics, with scientific computation and statistics is an indispensable part of a university of today.
8 April, 2008 at 3:25 am
Richard Gray
I strongly support this partition.
Richard Gray
University of New South Wales
8 April, 2008 at 3:33 am
David Holmes
I strongly support this partition
David Holmes
Civil and Environmental Engineering
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
8 April, 2008 at 3:47 am
Shaun Belward
I know what it is like to work in a university with just 6 maths/stats staff! I started work at JCU in 1993 with about 15 maths staff, now we have 6. We still claim to offer a maths major, but only just. Let us all hope this will turn around soon – for the sake of our country!
Shaun Belward
School of Maths, Physics & IT
James Cook University
8 April, 2008 at 3:51 am
Fiona Beer
I strongly support this petition.
Fiona Beer
Biostatistical Programmer
Amgen