Text of petition:
I believe that the proposed severe cuts to mathematics, statistics, and computing at the University of Southern Queensland (USQ) will do severe and permanent damage to the quality of education in maths and the sciences for USQ students, at a time when the need to support such education is both urgent and widely accepted in Australia at all levels. Service teaching alone, especially at reduced staff levels, cannot deliver the level of mathematics education that the students of USQ deserve. I urge the university administration to negotiate with the Department of Mathematics and Computing to find a compromise solution that will preserve the proven capability of this department to train students and teachers in the maths and sciences at the highest levels of quality.
Please sign this petition by leaving a comment at the very bottom of this web page stating your support for the text. It may be helpful if you include your name, title, and affiliation in your remarks.
For more information about the situation at USQ, as well as other ways in which you can help out, please see the main campaign page, as well as my editorial on this topic.
This online petition is part of a broader campaign that is also contacting the media and government officials for this cause. Your signing of this petition will help, not only in directly impressing upon USQ administrators, media, government officials, and others on the depth of support for mathematics, but also in encouraging those who will be impacted by these cuts to also speak out and to spread the word. Thanks in advance for your support, and please share the link to this petition to anyone else who may be interested. Mathematicians, scientists, engineers, journalists, students, administrators, Australians, non-Australians – all are more than welcome to sign. It is particularly vital to contact USQ students on this matter, as they have been largely excluded from the official consultation process by the USQ administration.
Any inquiries about this petition should be directed to Terence Tao, or left as a comment on the home page for this campaign. [In particular, if your comment does not first appear, it may have been caught by the automatic spam filters. - T.]
On 14 April, the last day of the consultation period set by the administration, the online petition was formally presented to the USQ administration and to local government officials. Since the petition has been a visible and public show of support for mathematics, statistics, and computing at USQ, we will continue to keep this petition active beyond this date as a demonstration of that ongoing support.
For the latest updates on the status of the campaign, see the end of my blog post on this topic.

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5 April, 2008 at 8:22 am
Peter Hall
The problems at USQ bring to a head the difficulties facing mathematical sciences departments right around Australia. For example, the suggestion that the teaching of mathematics and statistics can be safely limited to service courses is being raised in a number universities, and flies in the face of rapidly increasing demand for properly trained professionals in these areas.
To illustrate the issues involved, let me mention that in a submission to the 2006 review of mathematical sciences a major employer of mathematical scientists addressed the issue of training professional statisticians using service courses, which provide primarily problem-solving skills:
“We have noted a disturbing trend where some universities are placing too much emphasis on the practical application of statistical techniques…and leaving the student without a proper understanding of the underlying statistical principles. This leads to graduates who lack sufficient theory to understand the assumptions and limitations of the various techniques and hence are unable to extend the theory or apply it in new situations as required.”
These comments sum up well the problems caused by training professional mathematicians and statisticians by giving them only minimal problem-solving skills.
Finally, Terry, a word of thanks from all of us in Australia for your help in bringing the problems here to a wider audience. Your efforts are greatly appreciated.
Professor Peter Gavin Hall, Federation Fellow,
University of Melbourne.
5 April, 2008 at 10:27 am
Terence Tao
Thanks, Peter, for your support. It goes without saying that I also support this petition, for reasons described in
http://terrytao.wordpress.com/2008/04/05/please-help-support-mathematics-at-the-university-of-southern-queensland/
Terence Tao, FAA FRS FAustMS
Professor, University of California, Los Angeles
5 April, 2008 at 11:01 am
Robert Harper
I endorse the petition as stated and urge the Australian government to reconsider.
Robert Harper, Professor
Computer Science Department
Carnegie Mellon University
5 April, 2008 at 11:19 am
Andrew McIntyre
Andrew McIntyre
Mathematics
Bennington College, Bennington VT
5 April, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Anonymous
Marco Isopi, Professor
Mathematics
University of Rome “la Sapienza” (Italy)
5 April, 2008 at 12:34 pm
damidami
Damián Silvestre
Universidad Tecnológica Nacional (Argentina)
5 April, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Ian A. Mason
Well I’ll keep my fingers crossed, but after watching what
happened (& still happens) at UNE, I have very little hope
that these small Australian regional universities will
remain universites except perhaps in name alone.
5 April, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Richard Samworth
I’m very sorry to hear that the situation regarding academic funding cuts in Australia appears to have deteriorated even since my last visit. I strongly support this petition.
5 April, 2008 at 2:06 pm
tumur
Tsogtgerel Gantumur, postdoc
Mathematics, UCSD
5 April, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Anonymous
Thank you, Prof Tao, for alerting us to this situation. I hope something can be done to avert this. Should we perhaps write directly to the people involved?
Daniel Tokarev
post-doc,
Uni of Melbourne
5 April, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Roberta
Roberta Albuquerque
Mathematics
Universidade Federal de Pernambuco, Brazil
5 April, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Mark Meckes
Mark W. Meckes
Dept. of Mathematics
Case Western Reserve University
Cleveland, Ohio, USA
5 April, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Tony Guttmann
Unfortunately this is only the latest example in a saga of cuts in mathematical sciences staffing, primarily at regional universities, but also at some of the larger, more established universities, my own included. To some extent this is an inevitable result of the market forces driven educational industry that is slowly replacing what was once a world class tertiary educational system. It is to be hoped that the new Federal government will move quickly to reverse this trend, and that universities will once again revert to their priority of hiring high quality academics, so that there will once agin be time and opportunity to offer top quality teaching, as well as conducting research and engaging with end-users, rather than adding to the already overblown administrative ranks.
5 April, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Bradley Efron
Cutting back on mathematics to save money is like the
farmer’s family eating the seed corn. I guess young
people in South Queensland will have to go elsewhere
if they’re interested in mathematics, statistics, or
computing. And I thought Australia had progressed
beyond third-world thinking….
5 April, 2008 at 3:38 pm
DanF
I know I’m an odd-ball here, but I also support the petition above — as an amateur mathematician (I didn’t quite finish my minor in math, but still enjoy reading about it and playing around/programming). And as someone in industry that recognizes the value of mathematically savvy workers. I should have been an engineer :P
Dan Farmer
Analyst
Dell, Inc.
Reno, NV USA
5 April, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Barry Jay
I endorse the petition.
5 April, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Danny Calegari
As an Australian expatriate mathematician, I agree with Terry’s sentiments,
both in general and specific terms. I also endorse this petition.
Danny Calegari
Richard Merkin Distinguished Professor of Mathematics
California Institute of Technology
5 April, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Andrew Robinson
I endorse this petition.
Andrew Robinson
Senior Lecturer, Applied Statistics
The University of Melbourne
5 April, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Barry Hughes
I was the Executive Director of the National Strategic Review of Mathematical Sciences Research in Australia, which reported in December 2006. That review documented clearly the sustained neglect and chronic underfunding of the mathematical sciences by governments, and the lack of support for these disciplines within universities in the internal competition for resources. It was starkly demonstrated that unless the situation is rapidly turned around, a severe and perhaps permanent destruction of the nation’s mathematics and statistics infrastructure looms. Despite some modest but very welcome additional federal government money received since the review, the profession continues to decline as the full value of the additional federal support fails to be passed on to the relevant departments, and the higher level administrators at a number of universities continue to pursue policies that do not support the profession. The recent developments at the University of Southern Queensland, in particular, deserve the strongest condemnation and should be vigorously opposed.
5 April, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Walter Neumann
As another Australian expatriate mathematician, I am saddened by the damage I have seen done to what was a world class tertiary education system in Australia. In 2007 it appeared that the government, at least, had finally heard the warnings of the National Strategic Review of Mathematical Sciences and there appeared to be hope that things might be changing. But the situation at USQ, just a particularly egregious diversion of funds earmarked to stem the damage, leads to doubt. The damage is not only in the decline of the level of mathematical education, but also in the continued loss of trained researchers who decide to seek more welcoming shores. I support the petition.
Walter Neumann
Professor of Mathematics
Barnard College – Columbia University
New York
5 April, 2008 at 5:51 pm
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5 April, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Daniel Ford
As another ex-pat mathematician, I’d like to say thanks to Terry for bringing this to our attention.
I strongly endorse this petition.
Dr. Daniel Ford
Statistician
Google Inc.
Mountain View, CA, USA
5 April, 2008 at 5:52 pm
Greg Stevenson
I cannot express my support for the petition strongly enough.
Greg Stevenson
PhD Candidate
Australian National University
5 April, 2008 at 6:14 pm
Anonymous
I think, a similar situation is happening in every country nowadays, due to the fact that demand and supply has been a main issue, which should not happen in an intelligent society, as we think.
But unfortuanately, what people can’t understand is that any developemnt of science or technology is soley driven by mathematical tools. These days there are enough mathematicians who can sacrifice their life towards the development of science. But what would happen after another 2 – 3 decades, there won’t be anyone who can handle the new tools of science, think differently from others, come up with new ideas no one ever think of, since they don’t have stronge background of mathematics, which enhance the thinking ability and creativity.
Once they understand the need of mathematics, they may be too late to do that.
Udita Katugampola
PhD Student
Southern Illinois University
Carbondale, IL
USA
(Past Student of University of Colombo – Sri Lanka)
5 April, 2008 at 6:16 pm
udita katugampola
I think, a similar situation is happening in every country nowadays, due to the fact that demand and supply has been a main issue, which should not happen in an intelligent society, as we think.
But unfortuanately, what people can’t understand is that any developemnt of science or technology is soley driven by mathematical tools. These days there are enough mathematicians who can sacrifice their life towards the development of science. But what would happen after another 2 – 3 decades, there won’t be anyone who can handle the new tools of science, think differently from others, come up with new ideas no one ever think of, since they don’t have stronge background of mathematics, which enhance the thinking ability and creativity.
Once they understand the need of mathematics, they may be too late to do that.
Udita Katugampola
PhD Student
Southern Illinois University
Carbondale, IL
USA
(Past Student of University of Colombo – Sri Lanka)
5 April, 2008 at 6:44 pm
Christoph Thiele
To be competitive nowadays, a society needs a strong mathematical
culture. The proposed cuts do not appear to strengthen the mathematical
culture in Australia.
Christoph Thiele,
Professor, UCLA
5 April, 2008 at 6:46 pm
Peter McNamara
I wholly endorse this petition
Peter McNamara
PhD Candidate in Mathematics
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
5 April, 2008 at 6:57 pm
Ernesto
I also endorse this petition.
Ernesto F. Galvão
Professor, Institute of Physics, Universidade Federal Fluminense
(UFF, Niterói, Brazil).
5 April, 2008 at 6:59 pm
juliawolf
I strongly support this petition.
Julia Wolf
Member, School of Mathematics
Institute for Advanced Study, Princeton NJ
5 April, 2008 at 7:06 pm
J. Hyam Rubinstein
The decline in mathematics and statistics is alarming and needs urgent action, with universities accepting responsibility. To arrest the decline, we need to get well-trained mathematical scientists into teaching in schools and if regional universities abandon their programs, this will not happen. USQ has a fine department, which is earning its keep by service teaching, as is the model throughout the world. To be penalised in this way is unreasonable and unfair. Australia has a large and growing shortage of engineers and without strong mathematical sciences, this will only get worse. I support this petition very strongly.
Hyam Rubinstein,
Chair, National Committee for the Mathematical Sciences in Australia.
Professor, University of Melbourne
5 April, 2008 at 7:30 pm
Charles
Charles Siegel
PhD Candidate in Mathematics
University of Pennsylvania
5 April, 2008 at 7:32 pm
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5 April, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Jan de Gier
I strongly support his petition. It is my hope that the new political powers in Australia, and with them the university administrators, very quickly realize that mathematics and statistics is much more than the teaching and acquisition of tools to solve, say, engineering or financial problems. It is the skill for developing new tools that is lost with the disappearance of maths researchers and maths departments, and what will have Australia lagging the rest of the world in innovation for generations.
5 April, 2008 at 7:53 pm
John Armstrong
I support the petition. However, I fear it won’t make any difference. If the administrators are so blinkered as to even consider this course of action, then what does the word of an extremely-junior faculty member at an American university who’s never set foot on their continent matter? Here’s to tilting at windmills.
John Armstrong
Assistant Professor
Tulane University
New Orleans, LA, USA
5 April, 2008 at 8:03 pm
louisyangliu
I strongly support this petition for saving Maths at USQ out of the difficult situation.
Louis Yang Liu
PhD Student
University of Georgia
5 April, 2008 at 8:05 pm
Simon Rubinstein-Salzedo
I strongly support this petition.
Simon Rubinstein-Salzedo
PhD Candidate in Mathematics
Stanford University
5 April, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Scott
I endorse the petition.
Scott Aaronson
Assistant Professor, Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
MIT
5 April, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Owen Jones
I endorse this petition
Owen Jones
Senior Lecturer
Dept of Maths and Stats
University of Melbourne
5 April, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Anonymous
Investment in high-quality education in mathematics, statistics, and computing for all students will pay for itself many times over; computer chips and high-definition televisions, mobile communication, search engines, etc., are just a handful of the tangible benefits we have seen that wouldn’t be possible without investments in basic education in the mathematical, statistical, and computing sciences.
I strongly support this petition.
D. Sivakumar
Research Scientist
Google
Mountain View, CA, USA
5 April, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Anonymous
I very strongly support this petition.
Tyler Neylon (math PhD from Courant Institute)
Software Engineer, Google
5 April, 2008 at 10:01 pm
ErdosPuskás
I endorse this petition.
Johan
Undergrad
University of Memphis
5 April, 2008 at 10:14 pm
Benjamin Rubinstein
I strongly support this petition. Having benefited greatly from an Australian undergraduate education in mathematics, I am saddened to hear about the present crisis at USQ. Diverting sorely needed funding, publicly earmarked for mathematics & statistics, to University administration or teaching in other fields, is lamentable. I use mathematics & statistics daily, in all aspects of my studies at Berkeley and in employment at companies such as Google. The same is true of friends in the most practical of areas within Electrical Engineering & Computer Sciences at Berkeley, which enjoy high levels of industry and U.S. government funding; and for friends working in Silicon Valley. Australia will significantly lose its ability to innovate if mathematics & statistics at institutions such as USQ are allowed to deteriorate further. I urge Australia’s policy makers to head the concerns expressed in this petition. Please, gives Australian maths & stats a fair go.
Benjamin Rubinstein
PhD Student in Electrical Engineering & Computer Sciences,
University of California, Berkeley
5 April, 2008 at 10:55 pm
François Loeser
I strongly support this petition.
François Loeser
Professor
Department of Mathematics
Ecole Normale Supérieure
Paris, France
5 April, 2008 at 11:46 pm
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6 April, 2008 at 12:02 am
Cheryl Praeger
I strongly support this petition.
At a time when even the Australian government has recognised the acute shortage of well-trained mathematical scientists in the country, it is very sad, and short-sighted that USQ moves to decimate its mathematics training capability.
Cheryl E Praeger
Federation Fellow, University of Western Australia
6 April, 2008 at 12:21 am
Aurore Delaigle
I am very sorry to read that the situation for Mathematics is getting even worse than it already is, and I strongly support this petition.
Aurore Delaigle
University of Bristol, UK
6 April, 2008 at 12:57 am
Michael Cowling
As a recently expatriated Australian mathematician, I too support this petition. I am afraid that university administrators in Australia are only interested in the short term financial implications of what they do, and are not aware or interested in the long term health of academe.
Michael Cowling
Mason Professor of Pure Mathematics
University of Birmingham
6 April, 2008 at 1:09 am
Mike Titterington
A strong national reservoir of competence in the logical thinking and numeracy that higher education and research in mathematics and statistics provide is an essential resource for any modern nation, and this manifestation of short-sightedness is both inexplicable and distressing. I strongly support this petition.
Mike Titterington
Professor of Statistics
University of Glasgow
Scotland
6 April, 2008 at 1:22 am
Nitin Rughoonauth
I provide my full and earnest support to this commendable petition of Prof Tao. As a Mauritian student who received a world-class undergraduate education in mathematics and physics in Australia, I am saddened to hear about the deteriorating situation concerning mathematics education there. I am grateful to Prof Tao for informing us about the urgency of the matter.
Pour l’honneur de l’esprit humain! [Jean Dieudonné]
Nitin C. Rughoonauth
Graduate student in Theoretical & Mathematical Physics
Arnold Sommerfeld Center for Theoretical Physics
University of Munich, GERMANY
6 April, 2008 at 1:36 am
Elizabeth Billington
I strongly support this petition.
Elizabeth Billington
Associate Professor
The University of Queensland
6 April, 2008 at 1:41 am
Anonymous
I agree with this petition and urge the USQ administration to reconsider.
Brendan McKay
Professor of Computer Science
ANU
6 April, 2008 at 1:41 am
Anonymous
Australia desperately needs more not fewer well trained mathematical minds.
Cuts such as those proposed at USQ beconme self-fullfilling prophesies.
Jonathan Borwein
Canada Research Chair
Dalhousaie University
and Visiting Prof Laureate
University of Newcastle
6 April, 2008 at 1:49 am
Yalcin Kaya
I strongly support this petition.
Yalcin Kaya
School of Mathematics and Statistics
University of South Australia
6 April, 2008 at 2:01 am
Alexander Isaev
I strongly support the petition. It has been proved over and over again that reducing mathematics to the service component alone severely damages the university’s research potential. Doing so does a lot more harm to the university than the savings that it brings.
Assoc. Prof. Alexander Isaev
Department of Mathematics
Australian National University
6 April, 2008 at 2:02 am
Brian A. Davey
Only last year we thought that Australia had finally turned the corner as far as mathematics at university level is concerned. The situation at USQ shows we were wrong.
I strongly support this petition.
Brian Davey
Reader and Associate Professor
La Trobe University
6 April, 2008 at 2:06 am
Ramon Esteban-Romero
I support this petition, too.
Best regards,
–
Ramon Esteban-Romero
Departament de Matemàtica Aplicada
Institut Universitari de Matemàtica Pura i Aplicada
Universitat Politècnica de València
València, Spain
6 April, 2008 at 2:07 am
Ian Doust
I strongly support this petition.
Ian Doust
Associate Professor
School of Mathematics and Statistics
University of New South Wales
Chair, Program Review Committee
Australian Mathematical Society
6 April, 2008 at 2:12 am
Anonymous
I strongly support the petition.
Michael Payne
Graduate of Monash University
Current graduate student Berlin Mathematical School (TU Berlin)
6 April, 2008 at 2:22 am
Scott Wiggins
Dear Professor Tao,
Thank you for setting up this petition.
As a USQ postgraduate maths student, I strongly support this petition but fear it may not be enough to prevent these proposed cut-backs.
I feel that the Howard government’s decision to give universities additional maths funding came as too little, far too late – the damage had already been done by their lack of investment in higher education and the fee-hiking Nelson reforms. These things have ultimately forced universities to significantly reduce the number of programs and services they can offer. Programs containing low enrolments are now deemed “un-popular,” regardless of their actual importance.
It’s a sad era when education has become too concerned with economic viability and not enough on the things it should be all about. I sincerely hope that these changes are not replicated by other universities which will only exacerbate the nation’s mathematical skills shortages, particularly in my area of high school teaching.
Scott Wiggins,
MSc (Maths/Stats) Student (USQ)
Secondary Maths Teacher.
6 April, 2008 at 2:23 am
Neil Cameron
I strongly support this petition
Neil Cameron
Former Head (retired)
Department of Mathematics & Statistics
Monash University
6 April, 2008 at 2:30 am
Grant Keady
I strongly support this petition.
keady@maths.uwa.edu.au
6 April, 2008 at 2:31 am
Ben Goldys
I strongly support this petition
6 April, 2008 at 2:32 am
Graham Wood
I worked from 1994-1998 at Central Queensland University as foundation chair of mathematics, endeavouring to build up mathematics and statistics. It can be done, and there is a demand for graduates, but it must have strong university support. It has not had that at CQU in recent years and the maths/stats programme there is now largely finished, a loss for Central Queensland development.
SQU is now following suit – this would be a double blow for Queensland. I strongly support the petition.
6 April, 2008 at 2:39 am
Walter Bloom
I fully support this petition. The drift away from the Mathematical Sciences as evidenced by the proposed cuts at USQ is very short-sighted and will do Australia immeasurable harm. Already the country is suffering a severe skills-shortage, particularly evident in both Queensland and Western Australia. With the concomitant decline in secondary school education, it will require skilled and knowledgeable teachers to train students in technical areas like Engineering, and teaching the required mathematical knowledge is particularly difficult for people outside the Mathematical Sciences. The country needs more trained Mathematics teachers at both the school and university level, not fewer.
Walter R. Bloom
Professor of Mathematics
Murdoch University
6 April, 2008 at 2:48 am
J. J. Koliha
I fully support the petition.
Associate Professor J. J. Koliha
Department of Mathematics and Statistics
The University of Melbourne
Melbourne VIC 3010
AUSTRALIA
6 April, 2008 at 3:06 am
Pedro Poitevin
I strongly support the petition.
Pedro Poitevin
Assistant Professor
Mathematics
Salem State College
6 April, 2008 at 3:16 am
John Henstridge
What is happening at USQ is the tip of the iceberg for mathematics in Australia. The cutbacks and the subsequent lack of good graduates in the mathematical sciences are already a constraint on business where the unique skills of properly trained mathematicians are needed. I see it as the biggest single constraint on my company’s future and I see it in many others, particularly in the biomedical and mining areas.
I support the petition
Dr John Henstridge
Managing Director
Data Analysis Australia
6 April, 2008 at 3:19 am
Anonymous
I endorse the petition.
Larry Wasserman
Professor, Department of Statistics
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA , USA
6 April, 2008 at 3:25 am
Igor Shparlinski
I strongly support this petition and hope a reasonable solution will be found.
Igor Shparlinski
Australian Professorial Fellow, FFA
Macquarie University
6 April, 2008 at 3:26 am
Mitch Wheat
I support the petition as stated and strongly urge the Australian government to reconsider.
Mitch Wheat
Software Developer, GAustAMS
Perth
Western Australia
6 April, 2008 at 3:44 am
James Franklin
I strongly support the petition. USQ’s taking the Federal Government’s money for mathematics and statistics at the same time as cutting those disciplines is a deeply cynical act.
6 April, 2008 at 4:05 am
Georg Gottwald
I strongly support the petition.
Georg Gottwald
University of Sydney
6 April, 2008 at 4:22 am
Derek Buchanan
I support this petition. Service teaching is indeed inadequate. Putting philistines in charge of schools and universities has never been such a great idea, but this sort of thing is inevitable if they are put in charge.
Derek Buchanan
Mathematics Teacher
Taylors College, Sydney.
6 April, 2008 at 4:25 am
Mark Weber
As an Australian expat mathematician, with unfortunately a very pessimistic view for the future of Australian mathematics because of situations just like this one, I strongly support this petition.
Mark Weber
6 April, 2008 at 4:29 am
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
Lyla Wang
NIEHS
6 April, 2008 at 4:29 am
Bary Cox
I support the petition above.
Barry Cox,
postdoc
School of Mathematics and Applied Statistics
University of Wollongong
6 April, 2008 at 5:01 am
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6 April, 2008 at 5:06 am
Andrew Bassom
I strongly support this petition. Recent reviews and the increase in central funding for the mathematical and statistical sciences recognise the crucial role these subjects should be playing in the future of the country. For USQ to be proposting to cut back in this way is quite unbelievable.
Andrew Bassom
Professor of Applied Mathematics
Unversity of Western Australia
6 April, 2008 at 5:08 am
ulfarsson
I support the petition.
Henning Arnor Ulfarsson
Graduate Student in Mathematics
Brown University
6 April, 2008 at 5:18 am
Claire Tomesch
I strongly support this petition.
Claire Tomesch
PhD Student in Mathematics
University of Chicago
6 April, 2008 at 5:23 am
Simon Byrne
As an expatriate graduate student, it has been quite enlightening to witness the creative potential in a well resourced mathematics department. There are not going to be any easy ways to reverse the years of neglect, but closing departments is clearly a step in the wrong direction.
Simon Byrne
Graduate student
Cambridge, UK
6 April, 2008 at 5:54 am
phil howlett
I support the retention of the mathematics courses and the retention of the Mathematics and Statistics Staff at USQ.
Phil Howlett,
Prof Industrial and Applied Mathematics, UniSA
Chair, ANZIAM.
6 April, 2008 at 5:55 am
Anonymous
The developement of mathematics in Australia is looked by many of us in countries of a similar economic potential as an example to follow. I hope administrators will reconsider before dealing such a serious blow to mathematics education.
Adolfo Quiros
Profesor Titular
Departamento de Matematicas
Universidad Autonoma de Madrid
Spain
6 April, 2008 at 6:44 am
Laureano Gonzalez_Vega
Laureano Gonzalez-Vega
Professor of Mathematics
Universidad de Cantabria, Spain
6 April, 2008 at 6:50 am
Juan Luis Varona
I strongly support this petition.
Juan Luis Varona
Departamento de Matemáticas y Computación
Universidad de La Rioja
Logroño, Spain
6 April, 2008 at 6:57 am
Anonymous
I strongly endorse this petition.
Alvaro Lozano Robledo
HC Wang Assistant Professor of Mathematics
Cornell University
6 April, 2008 at 7:04 am
Michael Lacey
Australia, as an outstanding place to live, could be central to
the world’s economy and its intellectual endeavors.
Reducing the nations educational infrastructure in a core discipline certainly
reduces the scientific workforce of the country.
I fully support the petition above.
Michael Lacey
Georgia Institute of Technology
6 April, 2008 at 7:11 am
Stephan Tillmann
I support this petition.
Stephan Tillmann
Research Fellow
Department of Mathematics and Statistics
The University of Melbourne
6 April, 2008 at 7:18 am
Hemanth Saratchandran
I definitely support this petition.
Hemanth Saratchandran
Undergraduate student,
Australian National University.
6 April, 2008 at 7:19 am
Joshua Batson
I strongly support this petition.
Joshua Batson
Yale University
6 April, 2008 at 7:22 am
Joseph Maher
I support this petition.
6 April, 2008 at 7:36 am
luis vega
Dear Terry, as you can imagine I strongly support this petition.
I can not stop thinking that if they have started
to do this in Australia what, or better which other country,
is coming next.
6 April, 2008 at 7:56 am
Hongseok Yang
I strongly support this petition.
Dr. Hongseok Yang
Lecturer,
Department of Computer Science,
Queen Mary, University of London, UK
6 April, 2008 at 8:19 am
Kendall Atkinson
I support this petition. Although money is tight, this is the wrong solution to the problem. What is proposed as a new major under the given rationale is reminiscent of a trade school approach to the mathematical sciences.
6 April, 2008 at 8:22 am
Owen Dearricott
I endorse Terry Tao’s considered remarks about the disgraceful and shortsighted neglect of funding and support for the mathematical sciences in Australia in general and at USQ in particular. I strongly encourage the new Rudd government to use their influence to help correct this sorry situation by intervening in this crisis.
Dr. Owen Dearricott
John Wesley Young Instructor
Dartmouth College, USA
6 April, 2008 at 8:28 am
Richard Melrose
I wonder if the administration of the University of Southern Queensland is committed to providing a proper education to their students. If they are, this is perhaps the worst sort of step they could take; even if it is an act of desperation born of difficult circumstances. The importance of a sound mathematical and scientific education is becoming ever more evident. It is also quite clear that such an education cannot be provided, in any meaningful way, by a purely `service’ department which is of necessity rigid. I believe USQ started as an Institute of Technology; it appears to be following the opposite trajectory to MIT.
I support this petition and hope that these very unwise steps will not be taken.
Richard Melrose
Simons Professor of Mathematics
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
6 April, 2008 at 8:52 am
Geordie
Another expat Australian mathematician supporting this petition.
Geordie Williamson,
Universität Freiburg, Germany.
6 April, 2008 at 8:53 am
Eric Chesebro
I support this petition.
6 April, 2008 at 9:13 am
Anthony Brockwell
I strongly support this petition.
I noticed Tony Guttman’s comments above, and I agree with him that this likely the result of market forces putting pressure on the system in Australia. However, what continues to amaze me is the extraordinary short-sightedness of the whole exercise. If one takes a bigger picture view (than the apparent view of university administrators around Australia), then it seems fairly clear that investing in development of mathematical/statistical talent is a good “business decision” for Australia.
Mathematics and statistics graduates play key roles in many sectors of the economy in the U.S., and I believe also in many other nations. For example, in the U.S., the finance industry is heavily reliant on analysts who must essentially have a Ph.D. in mathematics/statistics or some other similar qualification. Most hedge funds, if deprived of analysts, would be eaten alive by competitors. In information technology there is a similar story; companies like Google and Microsoft need (and hire) people with extremely good quantitative skills. Then there is the pharmaceutical industry, which also employs large numbers of statistics Ph.D.s. Although I don’t have exact numbers, I know that these three sectors alone have enormous demand for quantitatively-trained graduates.
I believe that in the long run, a nation that systematically cuts back an already depleted base of mathematics talent is not going to be particularly competitive in the areas I mention above. The trend needs to be reversed.
6 April, 2008 at 9:33 am
James Cook
I endorse this petition.
-James Cook
Graduate Student
Department of Mathematics
State University of New York at Stony Brook
6 April, 2008 at 9:41 am
Steve Sugden
The USQ situation is the latest and perhaps the most stark symptom of a university system in decay. Who will stop the rot? Not university administrators, as they are short-term dollar-driven. Not the vast majority of students as they, somewhat understandably, will take the easiest path. Administrators primarily concerned with short-term dollars give scant consideration to the longer term, nor for intrinsic values of science and mathematics, both aesthetic and practical. No, consumer is King, and if consumer (read student) does not want to pay for mathematics then it will be almost totally phased out. On top of this, the little that remains is so watered-down as to be almost useless for practical purposes. It remains as a necessary evil for essentially two reasons: to appease accreditation bodies, and to avoid the embarrassment of large numbers of total innumerates emerging from the pipeline. At my university, grade 9 mathematics is being taught as a university level subject and accredited as a unit toward the BCom.
As I reflect on all this, I cannot imagine that a petition of even tens of thousands would carry any weight. Why? Such a document may contain much eloquent, cogent and compelling logical arguments! However, unless expressed in dollar terms I cannot see any of these being successful. Since education is now a commodity, to be bought and sold, it is almost inevitable that disciplines as pure, noble and rigorous as mathematics be downtrodden; its remaining few practitioners reduced to academic prostitution (dictionary definition: “base or unworthy use, as of talent or ability”). This is already the situation in Australia and it is rapidly deteriorating. This is progress?
In reality, despite our “professional university managers” in Australia and their “business-based decisions”, the decimation of maths and science in Australia is a poor business decision for any university, and for many clear reasons. This is surely obvious to anyone with any reasoning ability, but conveniently ignored by decision makers. I expect that most of them do not even know what mathematics even IS: merely something that used to be thought necessary for the advancement and practice of science and engineering. But we can get by without all that now. After all, we have computers to do all that now, don’t we?
Despite my pessimism I fully support the petition.
Stephen J Sugden
Associate Professor
Bond University
6 April, 2008 at 9:49 am
Harvey Keynes
I strongly endorse this petition. As a frequent
academic visitor to Australia, the future directions
for Australia need a strong presence for mathematics
and mathematics education at all universities.
Harvey B Keynes
Professor, Mathematics
Director, Institute of Technology Center for Educational Programs
University of Minnesota
Minneapolis, Minnesota
6 April, 2008 at 9:54 am
Américo Tavares
Although not being a researcher in engineering, but as a retired engineer I do agree with the high “value of a mathematics education, taught by mathematicians” I had in the first years of my graduation (from 1968 to 1974) in electrical engineering by the IST (Instituto Superior Técnico / High Institute of Technology, that belongs to the Universidade Técnica de Lisboa / Technical University of Lisbon), Portugal. That fact was very important in providing me with the required tools and the technical problem solving skills required by the profession I had.
Américo Tavares, Portugal
6 April, 2008 at 9:59 am
D. G. FitzGerald
I regard myself as an external stakeholder of USQ as I rely on the statistics staff of USQ to host and support the Australian Schools Statistics Poster competition. This is a very valuable outreach activity to promote not just statistics as the name implies, but in fact a whole range of experimental, medical and social sciences that use statistical ideas. This is important, because our society and its future require evidence-based decision-making in all fields, and statistically-based thinking is crucial in the promotion of the concepts of evidence-based decision-making.
Universities, like other organisations, do need to retain flexibility and also need to plan their futures. I believe, however, that the draft plan that has been drawn up for USQ fails to take proper account of the existing strengths and assets of USQ in the area of mathematics and statistics, and the opportunity that USQ has, to support and build on its successes in those areas. It seems instead to be informed by ad-hockery, not a clear vision. One area where USQ could steal a march on other universities, is by backing the team that they have, and giving support to degree programs that really are practical and useful, including substantial and structured content in mathematics and statistics. I urge the decision-makers at USQ to critically examine the draft in this light.
6 April, 2008 at 10:07 am
John Sidles
Speaking as a quantum system engineer, our business absolutely depends on high-quality mathematics education. Please keep this and similar mathematical education programs going. They are a vital investment in the future, that returns large dividends to our children.
6 April, 2008 at 10:40 am
Cristian S. Calude
I endorse the petition.
Cristian S. Calude
Chair Professor
University of Auckland
6 April, 2008 at 10:43 am
Carter Schonwald
I, as an undergrad who understands the tremendous intrinsic and extrinsic value of a strong education in the sciences, support this petition
-Carter Schonwald
Yale University (undergrad)
6 April, 2008 at 10:57 am
Gretar Amazeen
I endorse the petition.
Gretar Amazeen
Phd student
University of Edinburgh
6 April, 2008 at 11:07 am
Menaka Lashitha Bandara
I’m standing 100% on this petition. I believe similar cuts had happened at Monash Uni slightly before I was an undergrad, and it completely wrecked the Uni. Things are starting to pick up again after Robert Bartnik became Professor of Pure Maths. I think it’s a disgrace that USQ is imposing these cuts, especially in light of the fact that the Federal Government has allocated more funding to mathematics and sciences.
Menaka Lashitha Bandara
BSc (Hons), BCompSc (Monash)
Soon to be PhD student
6 April, 2008 at 11:18 am
Tomas Recio
I support this petition. The issue here is just one instance of a general, universal, trend.
Indeed, Mathematic studies, Universities… the whole educational system should be considered as servant of society’s interests and its driving forces. But not only as servant: it should be also a queen… of human progress.
Tomas Recio
Professor of Mathematics
Universidad de Cantabria
Santander, Spain
6 April, 2008 at 11:58 am
Alberto Criado Cornejo
I want to back this petition. High quality scientifical education is a right of everyone and the whole society benefits from it. Best wishes :)
Alberto Criado Cornejo,
PhD Student,
Universidad Autónoma de Madrid,
Madrid, Spain.
6 April, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Subramanian Ramamoorthy
I endorse this petition.
Subramanian Ramamoorthy
Lecturer
School of Informatics
The University of Edinburgh, Scotland, UK
6 April, 2008 at 12:42 pm
David Meyer
I was recently asked to review a large ARC proposal, which reinforced my previous impression that the Australian government generously supports international quality research in mathematics and physics. This restructuring proposal for USQ is in appalling contrast. I endorse this petition.
David Meyer
Professor of Mathematics
University of California/San Diego
La Jolla, CA, USA
6 April, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Carlo Laing
I fully support this petition.
Carlo Laing
Massey University
Chair ANZIAM (NZ Branch)
6 April, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Rod Yager
This is yet another short-sighted move which continues to undermine the capacity of Australia to sustain its ability to provide an adequate education in an area which is universally recognized as vital to the future well-being of our nation.
I strongly support this petition.
Rodney I Yager
Senior Lecturer
Department of Mathematics
Macquarie University
6 April, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Adam Walsh
I support this petition. I am a school student who the department has helped through its programmes to educate those who hope one day to join the mathematics community.
I support this because I am thankful for what the department has given me, because of the undeniable importance of mathematics as the basis for all science and because I want there to be a mathematics community for me and other young people to join, when it is our time.
I thank Professor Tao and so many others for their efforts to “Rage against the dying of the light” in this corner of our world.
I sincerely hope that the decision makers will hear our petition.
Adam Walsh
Student
Tara, Queensland, Australia
6 April, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Ian Sloan
The importance of strong education in mathematics and statistics has never been greater. In that light the proposed move by USQ is a large move in the wrong direction. I strongly support the petition. Thanks Terrry for organising it.
Ian Sloan
Professor
University of New South Wales
6 April, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Anonymous
I support this petition.
L. Jacques
LTS2/EPFL Lausanne, Switzerland.
6 April, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Gaven J. Martin
An extremely shortsighted decision which will significantly undermine the quality of education offered by this “University”
6 April, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Emma Carberry
I fully support this petition, and hope that the short-sighted decision-making displayed by the University will not prevail.
Emma Carberry
Lecturer, University of Sydney.
6 April, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Alasdair McAndrew
A very short-sighted decision by USQ, and sending a very poor message about the support of mathematical sciences in this country. I strongly support this petition.
Alasdair McAndrew
Senior Lecturer
School of Computer Science and Mathematics
Victoria University,
PO Box 14428, Melbourne 8001 Australia
6 April, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Dr Pal Fekete
Australia keeps slipping further down the “quality of education” ladder. Why do we keep doing this to ourselves?
How is it that we let foolish administrators and not educators make these decisions?
6 April, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Prof B1ll Whiten
Extra funding for mathematics is being diverted and the result is to provide less resources for an essential area.
This is what is happening, while Maths & Stats are being promoted as a national priority necessary for the nations future.
Bill Whiten
University of Queensland
6 April, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Nazim Khan
Australia has for a long time talked about improving the level of science eduction. Unfortunately these have only been words. Science cannot be taught without Mathematics, and Mathematics and Statistics education has been suffering severely in high schools as well as universities.
we are producing at best mediocre and and at worse incompetent scientists and engineers. The number of people in the world who really understand how engineering works is becoming fewer and fewer, and one day there will be a mistake mad by someone that will lead to a disaster.
We need to act now so we can avoid such disasters. A good maths and stats education will make better engineers and scientists. Australia can lead the world in the area of science and engineering. And of course we need the next generation of Mathematicians and Statisticians to solve the new problems, so we can produce another Terry Tao!
6 April, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Jim MacDougall
I strongly support this petition.
This decision is very short-sighted. It is precisely the opposite to what the government has recently endorsed as the right direction for the development of Australia’s future development.
6 April, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Mark McGuinness
What a shocker. No Maths/Stats department can maintain a reasonable programme with only 6 academics, and USQ will find it hard to be taken seriously in Toowoomba with no mathematics major offered.
6 April, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Julie Clutterbuck
I support this petition.
Julie Clutterbuck
Australian National University
(and thanks, Terry, for initiating it.)
6 April, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Chris Meaney
I strongly support this petition.
Chris Meaney
Dept Mathematics
Macquarie University
6 April, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Steele Clifton-Berry
I am very much in favour of this petition.
All signs, reports and studies authorised by the government indicate a firm grasp of the problems facing Australia with respect to IT and mathematics skill shortages, yet time after time I see steps like this one being taken in the exact opposite direction of fixing the problem – both in high-school and university level programs. It’s an abject shame.
I really hope this petition can help knock some sense into somebody’s head at USQ.
Regards,
Former 4unit maths HSC student and future mathematics & computers educator.
6 April, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Richard Ollerton
I strongly support this petition.
Richard Ollerton
Associate Professor
School of Computing & Mathematics
University of Western Sydney
6 April, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Jarad Martin
I have been personally involved with the USQ maths department in offering a problem solving course for high school students. This course was enthusiastically supported by the faculty despite the lack of any funding, and was unanimously enjoyed by the students.
I appreciate the thought that now all universities can be first rate at everything. However, I would argue that there are some core areas such as mathematics that perfuse so many other majors, that to attack these would undermine the credibility of the entire institution.
6 April, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Alan Easton
I strongly support this petition.
Administrators and teachers still do not understand the importance of Mathematics in society.
University of Papua New Guinea
6 April, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Ben Andrews
I strongly support this petition and urge the USQ administration to reconsider this short-sighted decision.
Ben Andrews
Senior Research Fellow
The Australian National University
6 April, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Mark C Wilson
I endorse this petition. How can an institution call itself a university and not teach a mathematics major, to say nothing of the other fundamental areas being cut. I understand that some specialization is probably required in order to use funds efficiently, but the institution should certainly give up the name “university”. It is a backward step and sets a very bad precedent.
6 April, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Joe Neeman
I strongly support this petition.
Joe Neeman
soon-to-be PhD student
UC Berkeley
6 April, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Harvinder Sidhu
I strongly support this petition. I thought that recent reviews and comments by Senator Carr showed that there should be an increase in funding for the mathematical and statistical sciences to recognise the crucial role these areas play in Australia’s future. It appears that at USQ the reverse is taking place. This is shocking!
University of New South Wales at the Australian Defence Force Academy
6 April, 2008 at 3:16 pm
James Borger
I support this petition.
James Borger
Lecturer
Australian National Univeristy
6 April, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Peter Brown
I strongly support this petition. Mathematics has a central place in all of the older Universities in Australia and this is something all Australian Universities should aspire to, not retreat from.
P. Brown
School of Mathematics and Statistics
University of New South Wales.
6 April, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Andrew Morris
I strongly support this petition.
PhD Student
ANU
6 April, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Amy Glen
I fully support this petition.
Amy Glen
CRM-ISM Postdoctoral Fellow
Laboratoire de combinatoire et d’informatique mathématique (LaCIM)
Université du Québec à Montréal
6 April, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Dr Rowena Ball
I endorse this petition. Mathematics and statistics teaching and research, more than any other discipline, perpetuates the cultural and philosophical base of our society, as well as being essential to advances in science and technology. I visited the department of Mathematics & Computing at USQ last year and gave a seminar. I was enormously impressed with the high level of expertise, passion, and enthusiasm among the staff and students for their discipline. They are all inspirational and talented people who are an asset to USQ. I recommend that USQ invest in its talented people, rather than sack them.
6 April, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Andrew Putman
I strongly support this petition.
Andrew Putman
CLE Moore Instructor
MIT
6 April, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Allison Plant
I endorse this petition.
Mathematics plays a crucial role in education at every level. These kinds of cuts to Mathematics, Computer Sciences and/or Statistics will adversely and severely affect USQ’s image as a credible tertiary educational institution in Australia. Certainly any education students wishing to take mathematics as a major or minor would also be undermined by this decision. Administrators need to reconsider, and really think about the impact that such a move would have for the whole of USQ and the region in which they serve.
Allison Plant
Lecturer in Mathematics
School of IT & Mathematics Sciences
University of Ballarat
Australia
6 April, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Sue D'Arcy
I strongly support this petition.
I was a PhD student in Mathematics last year but have withdrawn due to lack of support for Maths in my university. As undergraduate courses were dropped I found myself increasingly isolated, with no other students coming through the system. I hate to see this happening at other universities.
6 April, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Bruce Henry
I agree with all of the statements in this petition.
Bruce Henry
Associate Professor
School of Mathematics and Statistics
University of New South Wales
6 April, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Anonymous
I support this petition.
Ben Hutchinson
Google
6 April, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Richard Brak
I strongly support this petition.
Richard Brak
Lecturer
The University of Melbourne
6 April, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Emeritus Prof. David Lee
I strongly support the petition. The demand for mathematical skills in most jobs is increasingand educational institutions need to recognise this in their courses for future graduates
6 April, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Nev Fowkes
I strongly support this petition.
6 April, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Dave Day
I strongly support this petition.
Dave Day
Google
6 April, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Dr. Phil Kokic
I strongly support this petition.
From my personal experience in trying to employ Australian graduates with good statistics and mathematics skills in recent years it is clear to me that the demand for such graduates vastly exceeds the supply. What USQ is planning to do is certainly not going to help the situation.
Philip Kokic
Senior Statistician
ABARE
6 April, 2008 at 3:55 pm
John Maindonald
I am a mathematical statistician with strong applied interests, now semi-retired. For most of my career, I have worked alongside application area scientists, in horticulture, in epidemiology, in molecular biology, and so on. In the past I had extensive involvement in the refereeing of papers for the New Zealand DSIR, now Royal Society, journals. An abiding theme is the extent to which research is compromised because adequate statistical, or sometimes mathematical or engineering, support was not available. Availability is of course a relative matter; cost-accounting issues may effectively block access even though funding is in theory available. There will also be instances where scientists choose not to take advantage of the available support.
A university that drops its specialist mathematics and statistics courses limits the training opportunities available to those top-rate students who want to combine limited training in specialist mathematics and statistics with their chosen area of scientific specialty. These are the students who will be best equipped to make major contributions in their chosen area.
It also limits opportunities for researchers in other areas to work co-operatively with mathematicians and statisticians. This co-operative activity can contribute hugely to the quality and relevance of “service” courses. Its impact on the quality of research can be huge. In a number of the areas that are now emerging into importance, the major demand is for statisticians and modelers. Those who do not have these skills, or do not have access to them, area severely limited in what they can do in climate or climate risk research, for example. In such areas (molecular biology was for a while another such area), the demands have changed at a rate that has run ahead of the rate at which the relevant research groups can renew their skills. USQ will do itself a serious dis-service if it settles for a second-rate skill base that is available in support of these current and emerging demands.
There is in statistics a severe skill shortage, with an unprecedented number of positions being advertised. In many cases these positions must be filled with seriously under-qualified individuals. The shortage is the combined result of the closing of statistics and mathematics departments in the relatively recent past, and the demands in financial mathematics and business. I regard the situation as serious, urgently requiring new training initiatives, including cross-over courses for individuals with good mathematical skills that have been acquired, e.g., as part of their engineering training.
A further issue is that there have been huge advances in the past decade in the tools available for statistical analysis, and for mathematical modeling more generally. This creates a large demand for retraining.
Others have commented on implications for the training of teachers. With all the other openings for graduates with skills in statistics and/or applied mathematics, who will be left to teach in the nation’s schools?
Centre for Mathematics and Its Applications
Australian National University.
6 April, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Hans Kull
Given the current state of mathematics education in Australia I do not expect to be able to find a successor for my business within this country. Most likely I will have to shut down opertions here and sell know-how and customer base to a partner company overseas.
Dr. Hans Kull
Managing Director
Informatic Technologies
Geelong North, Australia
6 April, 2008 at 4:01 pm
A/P David Panton
Unfortunately some University administrations have still not got the message regarding the importance of Mathematics, both as a discipline and an enabling science. I strongly support this petition and will urge my colleagues to follow suit.
6 April, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Susan Wilson
I strongly support this petition.
This is a time when Australia needs to be strengthening its mathematics across ALL levels of education if it is to be competitive in our increasingly quantitative-based world.
Sue Wilson
ANU & UNSW
6 April, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Philip Brooker
I strongly support this petition.
Philip Brooker
PhD student in mathematics, ANU
6 April, 2008 at 4:19 pm
David Parrott
I strongly support this petition and urge the University Administration to reconsider their proposed actions regarding the future of mathematics at the university.
6 April, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Reinout Quispel
I fully support this petition.
Reinout Quispel
ARC Australian Professorial Fellow
La Trobe University
6 April, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Anonymous
I strongly support the petition. It seems to me that the University Administration is moving away from the direction of the rest of the nation.
6 April, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Alison Thomson
As a former secondary school mathematics teacher, I am shocked at the short-sightedness of the proposed cuts. I strongly support this petition.
Alison Thomson
PhD candidate
Department of Mathematics and Statistics
University of Melbourne
6 April, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Jie Du
I strongly support the petition. It seems to me that the University Administration is moving away from the direction of the rest of the nation.
6 April, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Conrad Burden
Decimating mathematics and statistics disciplines at USQ will have a severe impact on the University’s ability to research and teach effectively in all areas of science, both the physical and biological. If USQ is desperate to make economies without flow-on effects, perhaps it should consider making cuts to its administrative areas.
Conrad Burden
Centre for Bioinformation Science
John Curtin School of Medical Research and Mathematical Sciences Institute
Australian National University
6 April, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Tom Leinster
Australian mathematics has always punched far above its weight in my area of mathematics. It is horrifying to see the deliberate, brutal destruction of something so special.
Tom Leinster
EPSRC Advanced Research Fellow
University of Glasgow
6 April, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Greg Kuperberg
I strongly support this petition.
It would be a great disservice to Queenslanders and Australians generally if USQ vocationalized its science division. Maybe Queensland’s TAFE institutions should be expanded, but USQ has a much more essential mission of true higher education. In particular, mathematics is not only a valuable university subject in its own right, but also an intellectual foundation for all of science and engineering and even vocational training. If these essential subjects are not adequately popular at USQ, then it is the university’s mission to popularize them, not to appease apathy. A university with no math major is hardly a real university at all.
Greg Kuperberg
Department of Mathematics
University of California, Davis
United States
6 April, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Qi-Man Shao
I strongly support the petition.
Qi-Man Shao
Professor of Mathematics and Statistics
Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
6 April, 2008 at 4:56 pm
James Caffrey
As a mathematic PhD student, I strongly support this petition.
6 April, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Sever S. Dragomir
I would like to strongly support the petition.
Professor Sever S. DRAGOMIR,
Chair in Mathematical Inequalities, RGMIA http://rgmia.vu.edu.au/
Editor in Chief, JIPAM & AJMAA, http://jipam.vu.edu.au/, http://ajmaa.org/
School of Computer Science & Mathematics
Victoria University, PO Box 14428,
Melbourne City, MC 8001, Australia.
Tel: +61 3 9919 4437, Fax: +61 3 9919 4050
URL : http://rgmia.vu.edu.au/dragomir/
6 April, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Deanna Wang
It seems to me to be extremely shortsighted to cut a mathematics programme at any of Australia’s top universities. All professions that require and rely upon good mathematics training will suffer in the end and more of Australia’s top thinkers will leave the country. Just as damaging, it undermines both the confidence of the Australian science and engineering community in Australia’s ability to engage and compete on an international level, as well as the world’s confidence in Australia’s commitment to science and engineering.
Deanna Wang
Programme Supervisor, Masters degree in Powertrain Engineering,
Institut Francais du Petrole/Ecole Nationale Superieur du Petrole et des Moteurs
6 April, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Tiffany Jones
I strongly urge others to support this petition and feel outraged that a university administration lacks the insight to see how important mathematics is in tertiary education and for that matter all levels of education.
Tiffany Jones
PhD candidate, Postgraduate Representative 07/08
Dept Mathematics and Statistics
Curtin University of Technology
6 April, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Terry Neeman
I strongly support this petition. We are in the midst of a severe skill shortage in the areas of quantitative and statistical thinking, both in the private and public sectors. It is a disservice to Australia and also to undergraduate and graduate USQ students not to provide the best possible teaching and learning environment for the development of these skills.
Terry Neeman
Statistical Consulting Unit
ANU
6 April, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Chunhua Chen, Math Honours student, Melbourne Uni
I strongly endorse this petition.
6 April, 2008 at 5:14 pm
L G Kovacs
I strongly support this petition.
L G Kovacs
Centre for Mathematics and its Applications
Australian National University
6 April, 2008 at 5:22 pm
David Stewart
Thanks, Terry, for bringing this to the attention of so many of us.
I would like to echo Bradley Efron’s comment that this is like a farmer
eating the seed corn. And also Mark Wilson’s comment, that it is
hard to see how USQ will justify “University” in its name after all this.
With only service teaching, and half the faculty gone, it will be
hard to have any kind of sustainable department of mathematics,
computing or statistics. And this is supposed to support a Bachelor
of Technology!!! If all they are trying to do is to push out students
who know how to use brand-name software, then so be it.
But technology moves ahead so fast that the best knowledge to
have is fundamental knowledge.
David Stewart
Mathematics, University of Iowa
Yet another ex-pat Aussie mathematician.
6 April, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Ross Street
Thank you Terry for formulating this petition which I whole heartedly endorse.
Ross Street
Mathematics Department
Macquarie University
6 April, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Tamar Ziegler
I strongly support this petition.
Tamar Ziegler
Mathematics Department
Technion-Israel Institute of Technology
6 April, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Shuanglin Shao
I strongly SUPPORT the petition.
Shuanglin Shao
PhD candidate in Mathematics,
UCLA
6 April, 2008 at 5:35 pm
les jennings
It appears that USQ has not compared itself to other Australian Universities in terms of its student staff ratios. Many university maths departments would die for 650 EFTSL. Surely a Science Faculty should not follow student demand, rather it should follow job demand.
Les Jennings,
Head, School of Mathematics and Statistics, UWA.
6 April, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Aidan Sims
I strongly support this petition. It is particularly disturbing to see universities continuing to moot proposals like this in light of recent indications that the government is moving to encourage universities to support science and mathematics.
Aidan Sims
School of Mathematics and Applied Statistics
University of Wollongong.
6 April, 2008 at 5:39 pm
Michael Deakin
This is another chapter in the sorry saga of diminishing commitment to Mathematics. We need more Math teaching, not less.
6 April, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Ben Toner
As an expatriate Australian scientist, I strongly support this petition.
Ben Toner
Scientific Staff Member
Centrum voor Wiskunde en Informatica
(Dutch National Institute for Mathematics and Computer Science)
6 April, 2008 at 6:03 pm
Emeritus Professor Michael Osborne FAA
I strongly support this petition.
Before the federal election the previous government announced a financial initiative in support of mathematics training in Universities. There have since been intimations from a number of Universities that this funding has not found its way through to Departments. This would appear to be confirmed by actions at USQ.
I understand that USQ has been seeking to publicise a teacher training initiative which puts an emphasis on preparing mathematics teachers. This could hardly be the time to recommend this course to potential students.
Lately there has been a good deal of lip service given to the importance of mathematics and the urgent need to improve mathematics training in Universities. USQ would appear to be passing the buck!
This comment is supported by
Emeritus Professor Joe Gani FAA
6 April, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Rahul Santhanam
I support this petition.
Rahul Santhanam,
Lecturer in Informatics,
University of Edinburgh
6 April, 2008 at 6:20 pm
Stephen Lack
I strongly support the petition.
Steve Lack
School of Computing and Mathematics
University of Western Sydney
6 April, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Todd Trimble
As an American mathematician who benefited greatly from his experience as a postdoctoral fellow at an Australian university, I strongly support this petition.
6 April, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Michael Small
Looking through these comments, I can see that my position is not unique. I am yet another expatriate Australian mathematician. In my case, the expatriation is both geographical and intellectual.
I support this petition.
Michael Small
Associate Professor
Department of Electronic and Information Engineering
Hong Kong Polytechnic University
6 April, 2008 at 6:41 pm
Joerg Arndt
I support the petition!
PhD candidate in Mathematics, ANU
6 April, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Dayal Dharmasena
I strongly support this petition.
Graduate Student, Syracuse University
6 April, 2008 at 6:59 pm
Manas K Patra
Mathematics, it was once said is the “Queen of Science”. I suppose with the dominant market-oriented approach of our age many have already abandoned or plan to abandon the Queen! But I am a strong believer of what the famous physicist Wigner called “The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics in the Natural Sciences” . (http://www.dartmouth.edu/~matc/MathDrama/reading/Wigner.html)
I strongly support the petition.
Manas Patra
School of Computing and Mathematics
University of Western Sydney
6 April, 2008 at 7:09 pm
Fuchun Huang
I strongly support this petition.
I know some ordinary Australians sent their children overseas for high school education, because they believe Australian high schools do not give their children the high quality education as they can get from some other countries such as China. Poor mathematics teaching and low level maths requirements are most often the reasons among others. To many of them and us, good mathematics and statistics training at high school and university level is like the strong and good foundation of a multi storey building. If graudates of an overseas university are all good at various aspects of university mathematics and statistics including the assumptions and limitations of various methods and tools and are able to extend them as required, while grauduates of an Australian university know only a few cases of applying some tools without being able to extend them for some other cases, which university would you recommend to atend?
Fuchun Huang
Senior Lecturer
School of Computer Science and Mathematics
Victoria University,
PO Box 14428, Melbourne 8001 Australia
6 April, 2008 at 7:10 pm
Charlie Macaskill
I strongly support this petition.
Charlie Macaskill
Associate Professor
School of Mathematics and Statistics
University of Sydney
6 April, 2008 at 7:10 pm
Alan McIntosh
I strongly support this petition. This is a very important matter
6 April, 2008 at 7:12 pm
Don Vicendese
I support the petition. Surely USQ can understand that a kneejerk reaction to demands for short sighted, unrestrained cost rationalisation may become, in the long term, retrogressive to USQ and Australian society at large. I suppose not – USQ needs some math modelling to answer that.
B.Sc Hons. Applied Maths
6 April, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Volker Gebhardt
I strongly support this petition.
It is a disgrace how Australian universities compete for a larger “market share” by stripping content from their degrees. The USQ case is an extreme (at least for now), but the trend is ubiquitous.
Do people really want to base the future national economy on lifestyle degrees like the (in)famous “Bachelor of Surf Science and Technology”?
Volker Gebhardt
School of Computing and Mathematics
University of Western Sydney
6 April, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Bob (Robert S.) Anderssen
It appears that the recommendations are the result of advice received from highly paid consultants, rather than on in-depth understanding, by the USQ administrators, of what Mathematics and Computing have and will continue to achieve for the competence, employability and professionalism of its students. It is a sad day for Australian tertiary education when highly paid university administrators find it necessary to spend large sums of money on external consultants (who do not necessarily understand the big picture), instead of using their assumed expertise (in terms of their emuneration packages) to spend that money to improve the quality of the students who pay their own money (often with families making sacrifices to assist) to obtain a tertiary education.
I strongly support the petition, and urge that good sense prevails and a solution be found that enhances the reputation of USQ rather than harms it.
Bob Anderssen
Member of the USQ’s Science Advisory Committee
(which ceased to operate some years ago)
Past President of the Australian Mathematical Society
Past Chair for the National Committee for Mathematics
6 April, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Mark Kisin
I strongly support the petition,
Australia is currently suffering an acute shortage of people
with mathematical training. The adverse effect this has on
Australian economic competitiveness is now widely understood.
The action proposed by the USQ administration would be
a huge disservice to the national interest and to the students of USQ.
It would instantly relegate USQ to second tier status as an institution
of higher eduction.
Mark Kisin
Professor
University of Chicago
6 April, 2008 at 7:49 pm
Matthew Emerton
I am another expatriate Australian mathematician. In the 1980′s, in Australia, I enjoyed the benefit of some excellent high school maths teachers (in ordinary state — public, in American English — secondary schools), and a lot of individual attention from excellent mathematicians at the university level. (Similar, I would guess, to the kind of mentorship that Terry received at Flinders, which he described in his post.)
While I was a university student, and since coming to the United States,
I also witnessed the continual deterioration of conditions in mathematics
departments in Australian universities. Teaching loads have gotten
ever higher, and universities seem to have been run and more and more as money-making enterprises, rather than institutes dedicated to world-class research and teaching. The contrast with universities in the United States is striking. (I am speaking from experience with both private and public universities in the US.)
I hope that the administration at USQ will realize the misguided nature
of their plan to replace the traditional Bachelor of Science by a Bachelor
of Technology, while at the same time gutting many of the basic enabling sciences that underlie contemporary technology. If these changes are allowed to happen, I fear that USQ students will be condemned to be trained merely as users of technology in the service industries, rather than as creators of new sciences and technologies. If similar changes occur in other Australian
universities, one can only guess at the long-term damage that will be done
to the Australian economy. And how will the next generation of maths and
science teachers get the education they need to attain the level of excellence
that some of my high school teachers had? From a course in `Science Studies’?
Although a small country, Australia has always produced more than its fair
share of original researchers in many scientific fields, including mathematics.
Indeed, the large number of expatriate Australian mathematicians signing this
petition stands as witness to the strength that Australia has traditionally shown in producing world-class mathematicians. To see this strength being
sapped over the years has been saddening and dispiriting for the Australian
mathematical community, both in Australia and abroad. To see it being
cut down in one fell swoop at USQ, by the University itself, is maddening!
There must be some people involved in administering the tertiary educational enterprise in Australia who realize the folly of the USQ administrations proposals. I only hope that they can prevail.
I support this petition in the strongest possible terms.
Matthew Emerton
Associate Professor
Department of Mathematics
Northwestern University
Evanston, Illinois, United States
6 April, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Anonymous
Dustin Mayeda
Graduate Student
University of California, Davis
6 April, 2008 at 7:57 pm
Stephen Weissenhofer
I support this petition.
Stephen Weissenhofer
School of Computing and Mathematics
University of Western Sydney
6 April, 2008 at 8:03 pm
Leanne Rylands
I strongly support this petition.
Leanne Rylands
Associate Head of School – Computer Science
School of Computing & Mathematics
6 April, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Mark Dras
Mark Dras
Senior Lecturer, Department of Computing
Macquarie University
6 April, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Nicolas Warren
I strongly support this petition. I’m studying in mathematics and whilst we have a reasonably strong department here, the problems with mathematics in this country seem to be fairly obvious to anyone with an interest.
Nicolas Warren
Melbourne Scholar
University of Melbourne, Australia
6 April, 2008 at 8:25 pm
Claire Hotan
I strongly support this petition.
Claire Hotan
Research Assistant
Curtin University of Technology
6 April, 2008 at 8:26 pm
Jackie Reid
I am a lecturer in Statistics at the University of New England (UNE) – another regional university. UNE is in partnership with USQ – sharing the teaching of Statistics units. I am very concerned by what is happening at USQ. The proposed cuts at USQ will have far-reaching consequences. I strongly support this petition.
Jackie Reid
Lecturer in Statistics,
University of New England
Australia
6 April, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Justin Bray
I support this petition.
Terry: anecdotally, I know twenty or so students at Flinders, but not a single one studying any sort of maths. It would be a shame to see yet another Australian university cut its mathematics education back to such abominably low levels.
Justin Bray
Physics Honours student
University of Adelaide
6 April, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Sergei Schreider
I support this petition.
Sergei Schreider
Senior Lecturer
School of mathematical and geospatial sciences
RMIT University
6 April, 2008 at 8:46 pm
Judy-anne Osborn
I strongly support this petition, as mathematical education and thinking underpins many important parts of our science and culture. We need a high level of mathematical training available and research distributed broadly both in terms of areas of expertise as well as geographically across our wide continent.
Judy-anne Osborn
Postdoctoral Fellow
Australian National University
6 April, 2008 at 8:54 pm
Geoff Mercer
I strongly support this petition. There is a skill shortage all quantitative areas at present and to severely cut maths and stats to this degree is incredibly short sighted.
Geoff Mercer
Associate Professor in Applied Mathematics
UNSW at Australian Defence Force Academy
6 April, 2008 at 8:56 pm
Graham Coghill
I strongly support this petition. Queensland IS the Smart State – isn’t it?
Graham Coghill
Retired Qld science teacher
6 April, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Lynette McLean
I also strongly suppport this petition. By USQ management cutting MAthematics and Statistics courses do they realise they also are setting at jeopardy units at other Australian universities like UNE, Newcastle etc? Team teaching is a way that the shortage of mathematicians and statisticians is being met across Australia. As well if we can’t train our budding teachers how can we meet a growing need for people in these feilds in 10 to 50 years? We need a positive spiral not a negative one!
Lynette McLean
Lecturer in Genetics
UNE
6 April, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Jamie Simpson
I support this petition.
6 April, 2008 at 9:21 pm
Regina Burachik
I strongly support this petition and hope that the USQ administration will reconsider this short-sighted decision.
6 April, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Tamara Davis
I endorse this petition.
Tamara Davis
Research Fellow, Dept. of Physics
University of Queensland
6 April, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Rodney Weber
I strongly support this petition. These cuts seem completely unnecessary and are contrary
to all the policies of the previous and current federal governments.
Rodney Weber
Associate Professor in Applied Mathematics
UNSW at ADFA, Canberra
6 April, 2008 at 9:36 pm
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
Greg Hjorth
University of Melbourne, UCLA
6 April, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Sam Clifford
I strongly support this petition.
Sam Clifford
Maths Honours Student
Queensland University of Technology
6 April, 2008 at 9:38 pm
Anthony Klemm
It is sad to see the continuing destruction of Mathematics in the smaller Universities in Australia. I strongly support this petition.
Tony Klemm
Trinity College University of Melbourne – Retired.
6 April, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Roslyn Hickson
I support this petition.
Roslyn Hickson
PhD candidate in Mathematics
UNSW at ADFA
6 April, 2008 at 9:58 pm
Margaret Donald
It is sad to see the continuing shortsightedness of our political leaders in destroying our society’s capacity to benefit from something so fundamental as mathematics.
6 April, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Jennifer Thackham
I strongly support this petition.
Jennifer Thackham
Maths PhD Student
Queensland University of Technology
6 April, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Michael Dallwitz
Senior Principal Research Scientist
CSIRO Entomology
(Retired)
6 April, 2008 at 10:06 pm
Chris
I strongly support this petition.
Christopher Lustri
Maths Honours Student
Queensland University of Technology
6 April, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Robin Hill
I strongly support this petition.
6 April, 2008 at 10:41 pm
Peter Maher
I strongly support this petition.
Peter Maher
6 April, 2008 at 10:49 pm
Tim Vaughan
I too strongly support this petition.
Tim Vaughan
University of Queensland
6 April, 2008 at 10:59 pm
Graeme Pettet
I concur with the sentiments expressed in this petition.
The proposed cuts to Maths, Stats and Computing do a great injustice to the students at USQ and their training in important enabling sciences.
In terms of the reputation and morale of academic staff at USQ and the greater Australian Maths, Stats and Computing community, this is a short-sighted move with a negative impact upon the standing and training of Mathematical Sciences in our country.
I urge those with the power to reverse this decision to do so without delay.
Graeme Pettet
Associate Professor, School of Mathematical Sciences
Queensland University of Technology
6 April, 2008 at 11:02 pm
Nalini Joshi
I support this petition strongly.
The proposal by USQ seems to be incredibly short-sighted. On the one hand, the proposal shows that Engineering service courses (taught by mathematicians) are set to grow and, on the other hand, the number of mathematics and statistics positions are to be cut drastically. In the face of increased income per EFTSL (effective full-time student load) from the federal government’s 2007 budget for students doing mathematics and statistics courses, I don’t see where the justification lies for this decision.
Nalini Joshi
The University of Sydney
6 April, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Omar Rojas
I endorse the petition.
Omar Rojas
PhD candidate in Mathematics
La Trobe University
6 April, 2008 at 11:41 pm
Jonathan Adams
I strongly support this petition.
7 April, 2008 at 12:19 am
sam wolinski
I strongly support this petition.
Sam Wolinski
B.Math Student
Newcastle Uni Australia
7 April, 2008 at 12:34 am
Carl Dettmann
I strongly support this petition. As an Australian applied mathematician working abroad I find it particularly disappointing that maths has such low value at an Australian University. Without a maths department it is hard to see how USQ can in fact be called a University at all, and the lack of mathematical expertise will soon have a detrimental effect on all mathematics related disciplines (science, engineering, medicine, finance etc). I know the relevant administrators probably won’t believe me or others signing this petition, but don’t say you weren’t warned.
Carl Dettmann
Reader in Applied Maths
University of Bristol
United Kingdom
7 April, 2008 at 12:49 am
David Leslie
I strongly support this petition. I did my postdoc in the economics department at UNSW, working with some excellent mathematicians. The universities must be strongly encouraged to use the additional public money for maths students to support mathematical departments, and maintain Australia’s strong but dwindling research base.
7 April, 2008 at 1:09 am
Edouard Thomas
I do support this petition.
Édouard Thomas
PhD student
Nancy University
France
7 April, 2008 at 1:23 am
Anonymous
I strongly support support this petition.
Dmitry Yakubovich
Dept. of Mathematics
Universidad Autónoma de Madrid
Spain
7 April, 2008 at 1:46 am
René Meyer
I strongly support this petition.
René Meyer
Max-Planck-Institute for Physics
and Ludwig-Maximilians-University,
Munich, Germany
7 April, 2008 at 1:47 am
Giang Nguyen
I strongly support this petition.
Giang Nguyen
PhD Candidate
School of Mathematics and Statistics
University of South Australia
7 April, 2008 at 1:52 am
Anonymous
I give this petition my strongest support. Teaching mathematics and statistics without a critical mass of mathematicians and statisticians immersed in their teaching and research will produce graduates with capabilities no better than being able to click a few buttons in a software package with next to no notion of what they are doing. Any business or industry or arm of government which uses *information*, and therefore numbers – and that’s a lot – needs better trained graduates than what the demise of mathematics in Australia, such as what is happening at USQ, will produce.
Rodney Wolff
Professor of Statistics
Queensland University of Technology
Brisbane
Australia
7 April, 2008 at 1:59 am
Yair Censor
I strongly support this petition.
It seems that “there is nothing new under the sun” (Ecclesiastes 1:9-14 NIV). The trend to govern research universities according to the “rational” principles of the business world is spreading throughout the global village. This trend has already created an enormous damage to the research universities in my country, Israel, in the last few years.
I am proud to strongly support this petition but I am at the same time very concerned that petitions alone cannot change the course of events.
Prof. Yair Censor, Department of Mathematics, University of Haifa, Mt. Carmel, Haifa 31905, Israel.
Homepage: http://math.haifa.ac.il/censor.html
7 April, 2008 at 2:01 am
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
Javier Ramos
PhD Candidate
Universidad Autónoma de Madrid
Spain
7 April, 2008 at 2:07 am
Robert Bartnik
I endorse this petition, in the strongest possible terms.
I’m a relatively senior mathematician, still regretting my decision to return after completing my PhD in 1983.
It is hard to see this decision by USQ senior managemnt as anything other than a cynical grab for the additional support funds which were directed to the universities by the (previous) federal government, specifically to improve and extend the teaching of undergraduate mathematics. It is encouraging that this is being treated as a bipartisan issue, of major concern to the technological development of the country. However, I suspect governments will need a great deal of guidance before the critical challenge of rebuilding the maths infrastructure in Australia is adequately addressed.
It is regretable (and somewhat ironic) that the only easy way available for the government to address the critical decline of maths at the universities, was through tinkering with the RFM weightings. The RFM has been an unmitigated disaster for good policy managment of mathematics in Australia, since it has encouraged individual faculties and departments to manipulate degree rules (both formal and informal) to direct students away from the “hard” mathematics subjects and into their “own” maths/stats service subjects. The result has been the same, at all of our universities (though a lucky few have been relatively less-traumatised) — fewer maths/stats subjects offered, and at a weaker level, by fewer mathematicians and statisticians, especially those who are research-active.
Sadly, the unfolding disaster at USQ is but one more example of the end-game of this process, although in this case the administration seems to have been even more cynical than usual, in their rush to purloin the $$ intended for mathematics.
So what can we, the Australian mathematics community in particular, do about this catastrophe? SIgning petitions such as this is a great step forward. Joining our professional society (AustMS) is one way of strengthening our voice in governments and university administrations. The AustMS offers accreditation for mathematics graduates — Maybe one day this will be recognised as the essential prerequisite for all secondary maths and science teachers!? That many Australian-based mathematicians will find this unimaginable, is a clear sign that we have lost the plot and fallen far behind the rest of the world.
7 April, 2008 at 2:09 am
Brad Moroney
Having focused my studies and ongoing career in the computing industry, it astounds me to learn of the narrow-minded intent to cull funding from the University of Southern Queensland’s Department of Mathematics and Computing budget. As an IT Manager, I see the first hand the result of a “university education” today and it far from inspires me as to what our future graduates will contribute to Australia’s (or, the world’s) computing industry.
The idea of “the clever country” has been delivered nothing more than lip service from successive Federal/State governments. Talk is cheap and what has been delivered appears to have been cheaper. Focus seems to have shifted through a knee-jerk reaction away from educating and challenging our populous, to blinding “working families” to believe they should not fight for knowledge, just ship the problem to resources off-shore.
Do not accept that there are other people in the world should be the innovators of the future! Knowledge knows no bounds, and should not be constrained to any.
I offer my support to this petition and hope that Australia’s future innovation is not stifled any further.
Brad Moroney
IT Manager
CPI Group Ltd
7 April, 2008 at 3:25 am
Andrew Pickering
This is a set of proposals that is inexplicable from any point of view, including
budgetary. However, even if they are withdrawn (one can hope), we should
not fall into the trap of self-congratulation but remember that what is needed is
genuinely adequate funding for the future. I don’t regard having taught in or
visited Australian universities as a prerequisite in order to sign this petition.
I support this petition.
Andrew Pickering
Profesor Titular de Universidad
Departamento de Matematica Aplicada
Universidad Rey Juan Carlos
Madrid, Spain.
7 April, 2008 at 3:30 am
Honglei Xu
I strongly support this petition and thanks for initiating this.
Honglei Xu
PhD candidate
Dept of Mathematics and Statistics
Curtin University of Technology, Perth, WA
7 April, 2008 at 3:47 am
Jeff Close
I support this petition.
Australia needs to maintain and enhance the teaching of mathematics at all levels, and as USQ is in rural Australia, this is even more important so that more rural and regional Australians can have access to mathematics at University level.
7 April, 2008 at 3:55 am
Adrian Gepp
I believe that teaching mathematics provides students with logical reasoning and problem solving skills that will increase their performance in most, if not all, career paths. Therefore, I strongly support this petition.
Adrian Gepp
Course Coordinator
Bond University
7 April, 2008 at 4:02 am
Gordon Clake
Such short term thinking is very distressing. Considering the considerable investment of mathematics in a wide base of industry they will deplore such short term measures.
Also it deprives our country of future teachers and lecturers who will bring forth the next generation of mathematicians. We are robbing Australia of its future and intellectual base as well as a loss of revenue.
I strong suppor this petition.
7 April, 2008 at 4:08 am
Zvi Ziegler
I strongly support the petition.
It is awfully shortsighted to destroy a Math department that is functioning well. It is much easier to destroy than to build , and when the effects are known and there is a will to repair the damage , it will take a long time.
7 April, 2008 at 4:23 am
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
Ruth Musgrave
Maths Honours Student
Monash University
Australia
7 April, 2008 at 4:31 am
Rothzael
As students, we just want to learn. In the endless pursuit of revenue, the bureaucrats have forgotten that a university is a place of education and knowledge. Don’t take this away from us.
7 April, 2008 at 4:44 am
Anonymous
I give this petition my strongest support.
Alessandro Andretta
Dipartimento di Matematica
Universita’ di Torino, Italy
7 April, 2008 at 4:46 am
christine kim
I strongly support this petition.
Christine Kim
Washington, DC
7 April, 2008 at 4:49 am
Bea Bleile
I stronlgy support this petition in solidarity with my colleagues at USQ.
Bea Bleile
Associate Lecturer
University of New England, Armidale, Australia
currently guest at the
Max Planck Institute for Mathematics, Bonn
7 April, 2008 at 5:18 am
Andrés Villaveces
I support very strongly this petition.
7 April, 2008 at 5:22 am
Sergei Abramovich
I strongly support the petition.
7 April, 2008 at 5:23 am
A Petition to Help Support Maths at USQ « Louis Yang Liu
[...] A Petition to Help Support Maths at USQ Please go to Terry Tao’s Blog, and give your endorsement to his petition to help support maths at University of Southern Queensland (USQ) by Signing here. [...]
7 April, 2008 at 5:35 am
Clarence C.Y. Kwan
I strongly support this petition.
Clarence C.Y. Kwan
Professor
McMaster University
Canada
7 April, 2008 at 5:49 am
María Vela Pérez
I strongly support this petition.
7 April, 2008 at 5:59 am
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
7 April, 2008 at 6:08 am
Mikhail Borovoi
I strongly support this petition.
Mikhail Borovoi
Principal Research Associate
Tel Aviv University
7 April, 2008 at 6:13 am
Jim Wright
I strongly support the above petition.
Since I left Australia over eight years ago
I’ve heard many stories from former colleagues
at the University of New South Wales about
the deteriorating situation in mathematics locally and nationally in Australia. This is a very sad situation as the mathematical community in Australia has played an important role in international mathematics with a dynamic programme for visitors, attracting leading mathematicians from around the world. I fear this will dramatically change if the policies of the Australian government towards mathematics do not change soon.
Jim Wright
Professor of Mathematical Analysis
University of Edinburgh
7 April, 2008 at 6:15 am
Aravind Srinivasan
I strongly endorse this petition.
Aravind Srinivasan
Professor of Computer Science
University of Maryland, College Park
USA
7 April, 2008 at 6:17 am
Darren Ma
I support this petition.
7 April, 2008 at 6:24 am
Jesus Gonzalo
Universities are, above all, institutions of learning. It is impossible to quantify the benefits to people and Society that a highest-level education can give.
Elimination of non-service Mathematics, reducing it to some systematic recipes for solving a list of problems, does an immense damage to the Country, and to the University’s image, so obvious that I will not repeat it here.
Instead I want to recall that we humans have only one life to live, and having been exposed to thought at the highest level can do for a person’s happyness more than all the money in the world. Universities are the only institutions that provide this. The lack of such an education, on the other hand, will bring great losses to Democracy as there will be no one left capable of having free alternative viewpoints.
I support the above petition with all my strength.
Jesus Gonzalo Perez
Mathematics Department
Universidad Autonoma de Madrid
28049 Madrid, Spain
7 April, 2008 at 6:28 am
Paul Smith
I endorse this petition.
Paul Smith
Graduate Student, UCLA
7 April, 2008 at 6:32 am
Gene Kim
These cuts will be detrimental to the long term success of the University and its students. As someone who works in education policy for the U.S. Congress, I strongly support this petition.
Gene Kim
Washington, DC
7 April, 2008 at 6:39 am
Anonymous
I strongly support the petition.
Keith Burns
Professor of Mathematics
Northwestern University
7 April, 2008 at 6:49 am
Anonymous
i support this endeavor
7 April, 2008 at 6:49 am
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
Maria Jose Gonzalez
Dpt. Matematicas, Estadistica y Computacion
Universidad de Cantabria (Spain)
7 April, 2008 at 7:10 am
Luis A. Fernández
I completely agree with this petition and urge the USQ administration to reconsider.
Luis Alberto Fernández
Associate Professor
Dpt. Matematicas, Estadistica y Computacion
Universidad de Cantabria (Spain)
7 April, 2008 at 7:20 am
John Bamberg
I strongly support this petition.
John Bamberg,
Dept Pure Mathematics,
Ghent University.
7 April, 2008 at 7:30 am
eric cho
I support
7 April, 2008 at 7:31 am
Poul Hjorth
USQ is making a massive and far reaching mistake by cutting back on the quality of mathematics education. Teaching only yesterday’s mathematics, and not maintaining a research environment is a certain path to status as a second or third rank educational institution. Many fields that employ math in an essential way are only as good as the math skills of the practitioners, and non-research based teaching, and ‘service’ teaching is simply not as good as the real thing. For the sake of your credibility as a university you should re consider this short sighted decision.
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Associate Professor -
Department of Mathematics, -
Building 303-S, Matematiktorvet, -
Technical University of Denmark
DK-2800 Kgs. Lyngby, Denmark
Phone (+45)45253061 | email: p.g.hjorth@mat.dtu.dk
FAX (+45)45881399 | www: http://www.mat.dtu.dk/people/uk?id=15
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7 April, 2008 at 7:36 am
A. Kechris
I strongly support the petition.
Alexander Kechris
Professor of Mathematics
California Institute of Technology
7 April, 2008 at 7:40 am
Justin Tatch Moore
I strongly support this petition.
Justin Tatch Moore
Associate Professor of Mathematics
Cornell University
7 April, 2008 at 8:08 am
Anne Thomas
I am another expatriate Australian mathematician who strongly supports this petition.
Anne Thomas
H. C. Wang Assistant Professor
Cornell University
7 April, 2008 at 8:23 am
Anonymous
I strongly support the petition above.
Yogi Sharma
Graduate Student
Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14850
7 April, 2008 at 8:43 am
Petição: Petition to support maths, statistics, and computing at USQ by Terence Tao « problemas | teoremas
[...] 7, 2008 in Notícia O matemático de topo Terence Tao , Professor da UCLA, lançou uma petição online , no seu blogue What´s New (veja “link” na barra lateral): Quem pretender saber as [...]
7 April, 2008 at 8:56 am
Cristina Ballantine
I strongly support the petition above.
Cristina Ballantine
Associate Professor
College of the Holy Cross
Worcester, MA 01610
7 April, 2008 at 9:03 am
harrison
I strongly support this petition.
Harrison Brown
Student
Georgia Institute of Technology
Atlanta, GA
7 April, 2008 at 9:07 am
Anonymous
I strongly support the petition above.
Clément Hongler
Graduate Student
University of Geneva
Switzerland
7 April, 2008 at 9:15 am
mike lee
I adamantly support this petition.
Michael Lee
Engineer
Jet Propulsion Lab (NASA)
Los Angeles, CA
7 April, 2008 at 9:33 am
Ravinder Singh
I strongly support this petition.
Ravinder Singh,
Department of Mathematics,
IIT Kanpur, India.
7 April, 2008 at 9:48 am
Tiffany Shiau
I support this petition strongly.
Tiffany Shiau
Medical school student
Thomas Jefferson University- Jefferson Medical College
7 April, 2008 at 9:55 am
Denis
I strongly support this petition.
The idea of the university considering such proposals is disgusting. The proposals express the disrespectful attitude university management has towards the study of mathematics. I think the actions of the university are degrading to staff who invest a great amount of time encouraging and promoting mathematics. The actions by management is demoralising for both staff and the students which have been informally told. Management has only communicated its disregard for student opinion by not informing affected students of the proposals. I believe the proposals confirm the university is more interested in profit from more popular programmes by cutting unpopular fundamentals. Many of my lecturers invest a lot of effort into developing new courses and helping students understand and appreciate mathematics. It is unfortunate to see these courses cut the following year because they do not win in the ‘university course popularity contest’. Unfortunately the consequences of implementing such proposals will be felt throughout the dying field of mathematics in Australia. I ask readers to spend 10 minutes emailing their thoughts to university management highlighting the implications of their actions.
Applied Mathematics Undergraduate
University of Southern Queensland
7 April, 2008 at 10:01 am
Chris Eastaugh
As USQ engineering graduate, I have found that my grounding in maths, stats and physical sciences gained there has stood me in excellent stead, both in the professional workforce and in postgraduate study in Australia and abroad. I have no doubt that their problems with declining enrollments would be better addressed through effective marketing, rather than by cutting programmes. I strongly endorse Dr Tao’s petition, and thank him for his support for Australian students.
Chris Eastaugh
University of Joensuu, Finland
7 April, 2008 at 10:07 am
Michael Kinyon
I support this petition.
Michael Kinyon
Assoc. Professor
Department of Mathematics
University of Denver
7 April, 2008 at 10:08 am
David Galloway
I wholeheartedly support this petition. I don’t know what kind of an institution the USQ administrators are hoping to have after they make these changes, but I don’t think they’ll have much right to keep calling it a university.
7 April, 2008 at 10:16 am
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition, for the reasons contained in the petition. I do so also because other disciplines gain value from mathematics, computing, statistics, physics etc.
I also would like to express my concern in terms of a comment voiced already as follows: “I fear that USQ students will be condemned to be trained merely as users of technology in the service industries rather than as creators of new sciences and technologies.”
I also would like to add the following point: the ideas to which we hold matter fundamentally. They lead either to good outcomes or to bad outcomes. The USQ situation reflects various ideas and (mis)perceptions that are popular in Australia currently, and is symptomatic of larger, and quite serious, problems in education in Australia. Perhaps this situation suggests also that some fundamentals need re-examining.
Ruth Williams PhD
School of Economics and Finance
Victoria University
Melbourne, Australia.
7 April, 2008 at 10:30 am
Laura Brooks
I fully support this petition.
Thank you for bringing up this issue Terry. The continuing decline of tertiary education not just in Mathematics, but across the board, results in students and researchers having to choose between either moving overseas (often permanently) for their education/work, or (receiving a higher education) / (undertaking research) which is not at a level equivalent to their overseas counterparts.
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Laura Brooks
Scripps Institution of Oceanography, UCSD (Fulbright Scholar)
School of Mechanical Engineering, University of Adelaide (PhD Student)
7 April, 2008 at 10:38 am
Peter Sarnak
I support this petition.
A point that I have been making recently is that Australia has been providing the mathematics world with some of the very best talent in recent years (yourself, Akshay, Emmerton. Kisin, Calegari brothers,…) Clearly they were doing something right 10 to 20 years ago.
Peter Sarnak
Eugene Higgins Professor of Mathematics, Princeton University
Professor, Institute for Advanced Study
7 April, 2008 at 10:39 am
Frank Calegari
Like other expatriates, I benefited enormously from the mentoring and individual attention I received from strong Mathematicians in Australia. It is disturbing to hear of the proposed budget cuts at USQ. The Australian academic community is small enough such that these drastic cuts will inevitably spread. With even the so called “prestige” departments forced into budget cuts, the best and brightest will inevitably look (often reluctantly) to positions overseas.
What appalls me most, however, is that it is generally accepted that developing a new generation of scientifically literate Australians, and in particular scientifically literate high school teachers (of which there is a current shortage) is essential to Australia’s future economy. I understand that USQ had plans for a novel training scheme for young teachers that is now slated to be scrapped.
I am very pleased that Australian governments have recently come to realize that Science (and Mathematics in particular) will play an essential role in Australia’s future success. I hope that university administrators will take note and reverse these short sighted budget cuts, for the sake not only of USQ but also for Australian higher education in general.
Frank Calegari
Assistant Professor
Department of Mathematics
Northwestern University
Evanston, IL, USA
7 April, 2008 at 10:45 am
Henrik D. Petersen
I support this petition, research-based teaching is what universities should be all about. Please think ahead and support mathematics and the sciences.
Henrik Densing Petersen,
University of Copenhagen,
Denmark
7 April, 2008 at 10:57 am
Alexandre Borovik
It once again brings to mind H. G. Wells’ words: “more and more, mankind’s future seems to be a race between education and catastrophe.”
Alexandre Borovik
University of Manchester
Manchester M13 9PL
United Kingdom
7 April, 2008 at 10:57 am
David Harvey
Another expat, who hopes to return someday. This petition has my 150% support.
David Harvey
PhD candidate
Harvard University
7 April, 2008 at 10:58 am
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7 April, 2008 at 11:17 am
Ben Linowitz
I strongly support this petition.
Ben Linowitz
PhD Candidate
Dartmouth College
7 April, 2008 at 11:29 am
Philip Walford
As a graduate of an Australian mathematics department I too support this petition. It is saddening to see that now that the government is finally beginning to support mathematics in Australia, university administrators are willing to bring about its decline all alone.
Philip Walford,
Software Developer,
Calyon Investment Bank
7 April, 2008 at 11:31 am
Emmanuel Kowalski
I also strongly support the petition.
What particularly seems misguided to me in such actions is that, if implemented, they will be close to irreversible in the future.
Emmanuel Kowalski
Professor
ETH Zürich – Department Mathematik
Switzerland
7 April, 2008 at 11:53 am
Javier Cilleruelo
I support this petition.
Departamento de matemáticas
Universidad Autónoma de Madrid
Madrid, Spain
7 April, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Igor Carron
I am neither Australian nor a Mathematician. However, I am an Engineer who has worked on many subject areas from Aerospace to Mechanical to Nuclear Engineering. In every single one of these areas, Advanced Mathematics was a prerequisite for providing much better solutions. In an era of many different unique Energy and Climate challenges, I am baffled by the sort of decision-making process that would in effect cut off from underneath a flow of prepared minds for these future challenges.
I strongly support the petition.
Igor Carron.
7 April, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Adam Cagliarini
I strongly support the petition.
It started with the classics and now this awful disease is spreading. I hope the new government is taking note and that part of it’s new “education revolution” changes this disturbing trend. Mathematics (both pure and applied) and Statistcs are important in many other areas of study, especially in mine being economics. Economics is now a branch of mathematics and many of the advances in pure mathematics has enabled economists to make significant advances that have made very valuable contributions to many areas of market design and government policy. Maybe one government might be able to see this and provide some support.
I think Australian mathematicians and former mathematicians may need to start thinking of measures as a defence against closures. One possibility, and this is coming from the economist in me, is that we should set up a fund, much in the same way that endowment funds work for US universities, to help provide ongoing funding for Australian mathematics departments. These funds are often set up so that each year, only a fixed percentage of the fund is spent, typically about 4.75% of the fund, so in years where returns are higher than this, the fund expands. Continued contributions could also help – and if it is non-profit, which it is, contributions can be made tax-deductible. If we can get information from departments of mathematics and statistics as to how much money is needed country wide to keep departments open (above and beyond government funding), we can determine how much is needed to start the fund.
If the mathematics and statistics community put a concerted effort together to lobby the government and private industry for some funds. Prominent mathematicians, like Terry Tao, could be used to lobby the likes of the PM and other influential people. Private industry might be able to help us manage the fund at a low cost and I’m sure there are lawyers out there, who have studied mathematics and statistics, that can help with the legal side.
I’m not sure if it can be done, but we need to start thinking of coming up with ways of ensuring the long-term viability of mathematics departments across Australia. I’ll be back in Oz in July, and I’d be willing to put in some effort to see if this can be done if anybody else is interested. Given the wide variety of fields people who have studied mathematics have permeated, governments and industry might be able to realise that the study of mathematics and statistics is much more important than they have assumed.
The only thing is that we will need people, outside of the university administration system, to run and administer the fund.
I’d like to know if anybody has any ideas or is interested in helping.
Adam Cagliarini
Stanford, CA
my email address is structured as follows:
my first name (dot) surname (AT) gmail.com
7 April, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Dima
As someone with a maths PhD from Australia,
I strongly support this petition
Dmitrii Pasechnik
Assistant Professor in Mathematics
NTU, Singapore
7 April, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Rosa
I strongly support this petition
7 April, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition. In my experience, the more quantitative-related fields such as the sciences and mathematics are promoted, if not expanded, in education institutions, generally. It is certainly disheartening to read that such important disciplines are consciously neglected (if the sciences/maths are being cut, it’s terrifying to imagine what would happen to the humanities).
Alice Kang
University of California, Berkeley
School of Public Health – MPH
7 April, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Matt Falk
I support this petition.
Matt Falk
PhD Student
QUT
7 April, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Jenny
I support this petition.
Jenny Spence
Undergrad in Physics, USQ
7 April, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Anonymous
I support this petition
7 April, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Mike Spence
It took years to shrug off the DDIAE tag and gain a world class reputation for research and the external delivery of subjects. USQ became an institution of which Toowoomba could be proud. It appears that USQ wishes to retro back to a 70′s mentality.
If you diminish Maths and Sciences, who is there to take the concept forward into the schools to make the ‘clever’ country better instead of reinforcing the downward spiral of Maths and Sciences neglect.
7 April, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Sandra Johnson
I strongly support this petition
7 April, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Zaher Hani
I strongly support this petition.
Zaher Hani
Graduate Student
UCLA, Mathematics
7 April, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Khushboo Agarwal
I support this petition.
7 April, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Terence O'Kane
I wholeheartedly support this petition.
Dr Terence O’Kane
Center for Australian Climate & Weather Research
Model Development Group
700 Collins St Docklands
VIC 3008
7 April, 2008 at 3:18 pm
David Overton
I strongly support this petition.
Dr David Overton, PhD (Computer Science, Melbourne, 2003)
R&D Engineer, Cortex IT Labs, Melbourne
7 April, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Thomas Rufford
I support the petition and urge the USQ adminsitrators to find a way to preserve the teaching of mathematics in regional Queensland.
As a chemical engineer having worked previously in industry and now studying for a PhD, I have come to realise that many of the scientific instruments and analysis tools I use would not have been developed without the input of good mathematicians. Access to a quality mathematics education is important not just for those wanting to become mathematicians or physicists, but also for our engineers, technologists, biochemists and even our accountants and university adminstrators.
Thomas Rufford
PhD candidate
School of Engineering
The University of Queensland, St Lucia, Australia
7 April, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Anupama B. Kaul
I strongly support this petition.
As an engineer, and a person who obtained a wonderful primary and high school mathematics education in Australia, I am very saddened to hear of the struggle that Mathematics and Statistics Departments are facing at Australian Universities. Needless to say, mathematics is the cornerstone of many engineering disciplines. Such applied disciplines will ultimately also be impacted by this lack of foresight to diminish matematics education at Australian Universities.
Dr. Anupama B. Kaul
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
California Institute of Technology
7 April, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Anonymous
I support this petition and express concerns about the state of education at USQ.
Ivy Wong
expat astronomer @ Yale University
7 April, 2008 at 4:15 pm
van h. vu
I strongly
support this petition and express concerns about the state of
mathematics education at USQ
and other small universities in Australia in general.
Dr. Van H. Vu
Professor, Department of Mathematics, Rutgers Univ., New Jersey, USA
7 April, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition…..
7 April, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Bernard Ellem
As the Convenor of the UNE Statistics Discipline at Armidale, I support our USQ colleagues in their struggle against unfair and unwarranted disregard by their OWN institution.
Bernard Ellem
University of New England
Armidale NSW 2351
Australia
7 April, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Jason Looker
I strongly support this petition.
By simply focusing on balancing the books and providing services,
universities such as USQ will ultimately end up with a worthless
product.
It is vital for heads of mathematics and statistics departments to
develop a strategic vision that cements mathematics and statistics
research and education as a cornerstone of the university. So when
the bean-counters come knocking, they will be convinced that
mathematics and statistics is too valuable to the university and
society to be underfunded. Is there a communications problem
between mathematics and statistics departments and university
administrators? Is the introverted nature of many mathematicians
and statisticians causing come of these problems?
Dr Jason Looker
Formerly from the Department of Mathematics and Statistics,
The University of Melbourne, Australia.
7 April, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Peter Vamplew
I strongly support this petition. Unfortunately this situation at USQ is merely one example of the problems engendered by the movement to a demand-driven, profit-oriented tertiary education sector in Australia.
Dr Peter Vamplew
Senior Lecturer
School of Information Technology and Mathematical Sciences
University of Ballarat
7 April, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Dr.P. Cybinski
I strongly support this petition.
As a mathematician and a maths/stats educator I have great concerns at the diminishing profile of maths and stats in our universities and the constant dumbing-down of courses. Quality maths education is not just for the relatively few budding mathematicians, physicists or engineers but for anyone interested in a research career whether it be in science or even in business or finance, as well as for teachers who need to educate the people who will make up our “clever country” – a goal that should still be foremost at all levels of education management. Shame on USQ.
Senior Lecturer
The Griffith Business School
Griffith University
Brisbane , Australia
7 April, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Larry Forbes
I strongly support the petition to maintain and develop the Mathematics and Mathematics Major at USQ.
There is no longer any doubt that Mathematics is vital to Australia’s continued prosperity in the more traditional areas such as engineering, the mining sector and innovative niche manufacturing. Mathematics is also a vital key to the emerging new areas such as bio-engineering, gene technology and micro/nano manufacturing. If Australia is to be part of the future, it is absolutely vital that it maintain and expand its teaching and research in the fundamental enabling sciences of Mathematics, physics and chemistry.
I urge USQ to maintain teaching and research programmes to the highest level in Mathematics. To fail in this is to break a fundamental covenant with the Australian community, which depends on its university sector for sensible advice about teaching and research in areas that will give us a stake in the future.
Professor Larry Forbes
Head, School of Mathematics and Physics
University of Tasmania
7 April, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Melissa Tacy
I support this petition
However we as mathematicians need to do more than simply react when such problems come up, otherwise we will be constantly rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
Our education system (at all levels) has been moving steadily away from developing students’ fundamental knowledge. We are creating a generation of Australians who will only be able to use technology not create it, but everyone signing this petition already knows that. We need to persuade everyone from government officials down to the parents next door that this superficial learning impoverishes our skills base as a nation and as individuals, only then will we see any real change.
Melissa Tacy
Visiting Student Researcher, Berkeley (Fulbright Scholar)
Graduate Student, ANU Department of Mathematics
7 April, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Nicholas Evans
I strongly support this petition.
I encourage the full funding support for the Mathematics Department at The University of Southern Queensland. I am a Science and Mathematics Graduate from The University of NSW and Hons Graduate from University of Newcastle. All smart young people deserve the chance to study maths at the university of their chosing and not just end up as an accountant. Maths Graduates will bring knowledge and innovation and wealth to the Nation. Ignore maths at our peril. Similar wealth is created by university engineering departments. I encourage any moves to reduce fees to study these Nationally important subjects.
7 April, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Charles Little
I fully support the petition against the cuts to mathematics at the
University of Southern Queensland and urge the university to reconsider.
Charles Little
Professor of Mathematics, Massey University
7 April, 2008 at 5:13 pm
Bevan Thompson
The comments above including those of Peter Hall, Hyam Rubinstein, and Barry Hughes reflect the concerns of many professionals teaching mathematics.
7 April, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Vaughan Jones
A university has no right to call itself such if it does not have a mathematics department involved in the furthering of the subject. I strongly support the petition.
Vaughan Jones
Professor, University of California, Berkeley
7 April, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Sam Benson
I support this petition. Maths underpins much in developing the country, the economy and without sufficent mathematicians we as a nation would struggle.
7 April, 2008 at 5:33 pm
clovis Nguefang Sukam
I strongly support the petition.
There is a need for more mathematics out there, not less.
May be one should tell CNN or CBs’s 60 minutes about it.
If these journalists take the hold of this story, politicians will surely listen!
Clovis
7 April, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Tammy Simpson
I fully support this petition
When you go to shops these days and find that their staff can’t even count backwards and need to imput amounts to work out change, you know there is a problem with the system. Maths is used in everyone’s everyday life.
Where I study I’m very greatful for the mathematic programs they offer. Although challenging at times, its something that I find to be very useful
Tammy Simpson
Bcom – Major Accounting
Bond University
7 April, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Vsevolod Lev
Prof. Vsevolod F. Lev
Department of Mathematics
The University of Haifa at Oranim
Tivon, Israel
7 April, 2008 at 5:51 pm
John Murray
I strongly support this petition.
Associate Professor John Murray
School of Mathematics and Statistics
University of NSW
7 April, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Dr Than Pe
I fully support the petition against the cuts to mathematics at the
University of Southern Queensland and urge senior management of the university to reconsider and make wise decision.
7 April, 2008 at 6:00 pm
J. Ellenberg
I strongly support the petition. A thriving, active, self-supporting mathematical research community, such as the one Australia has traditionally enjoyed, is not an easy thing to create, and the list of countries that have done it is short. The list of countries that have been foolish enough to intentionally dismantle such a community is even shorter, and not to be aspired to.
7 April, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Professor Rob Hyndman
This petition has my support.
Professor Rob Hyndman
Department of Econometrics & Business Statistics
Monash University
7 April, 2008 at 6:05 pm
David Warton
I support this partition.
David Warton
Senior Lecturer
School of Mathematics and Statistics
The University of New South Wales
7 April, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition
Esther Meenken
Biometrician
Crop & Food Research
New Zealand
7 April, 2008 at 6:13 pm
Scott Carter
I support this petition. A mathematics department at a University is not a mathematics department if its only duties are service courses for other departments.
7 April, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Patrick Cordue
There is a worldwide shortage of quantitatively skilled people. The proposed cutbacks are very hard to fathom.
Principal consultant
Innovative Solutions Ltd
New Zealand
7 April, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Marc Raimondo
I strongly support this petition.
7 April, 2008 at 6:22 pm
Helena Oakey
I strongly support this petition. Mathematics and Statistics are fundamental subjects in their own right. The importance of continued research in these areas should not be underestimated, it has a knock on benefit for almost every other subject from psychology through to plant science.
Helena Oakey
Senior Statistician
University of Adelaide
7 April, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Simon Blomberg
I support this petition. We need more people with quantitative skills. Properly funded university mathematics and statistics departments that do research as well as teach are the only way to achieve this. Australia’s commitment to maths and stats is embarrassing for an OECD country.
Simon Blomberg
Lecturer and Consultant Statistician
School of Integrative Biology
University of Queensland
7 April, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Duncan Mortimer
I too strongly support this petition. I’m also eagerly awaiting the time that Australian universities recognise that paying lip-service to core educational disciplines – I believe that maths and stats are about as “core” as you can get… – will ultimately debase the “product” they are “selling”. Namely, a quality education.
Duncan Mortimer,
PhD Student,
Queensland Brain Institute,
University of Queensland
7 April, 2008 at 6:38 pm
David Scott
I strongly support this petition. A university which relegates important disciplines to service teaching only is not worthy of the name.
David Scott
Associate Professor of Statistics
University of Auckland
7 April, 2008 at 6:49 pm
Barbara Roberts
I strongly support this petition, and it is not right that USQ management continue to declare to current and future students that the proposed cuts will not mean a reduction in the teaching and research of mathematics at USQ – there are a lot of things at stake here, and truth is one of them.
Barbara Roberts
Lecturer in IS
USQ
7 April, 2008 at 6:53 pm
Prof. M. Kawski
I strongly support the petition to NOT cut mathematics, statistics,
and computing at the University of Southern Queensland (USQ).
I have visited the maths department at USQ in the past and was
impressed by their excellent work reaching out to diverse clienteles
which is only possible by maintaining a credible core of majors in
the subject and faculty engaged in active scholarship.
Reducing a department to only provide “service” is suicidal for the
entire academic mission. In particular, in math and the sciences
where major breakthroughs happen on a daily basis it is utter
nonsense to eliminate scholarship. Programs and faculty that are
reduced to “service” only will be irrelevant almost instantaneously.
It appears that this plan was conceived by administrators who
simply do not understand the break-neck pace at which math and
the sciences are evolving, administrators who do not understand
that the maths they may have learnt in the 70s is completely
inadequate today. Maths is quickly changing, and requires competent
teachers — which requires that they are engaged scholarly, that
there are degree programs in the major. There is no cell-phone,
no modern computer, no internet, no low-emission car, no safe
stability-controlled car, no … you name it … without mathematical
breakthroughs of the last few decades. Without maths USQ will
become completely irrelevant. You have excellent people at USQ,
and a most promising future … don’t waste such opportunity!
7 April, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Deborah Hughes Hallett
This petition has my strong support; USQ students deserve the same opportunity to learn mathematics as their counterparts abroad.
Deborah Hughes Hallett
Professor of Mathematics, University of Arizona
Adjunct Professor of Public Policy, Harvard
7 April, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
As a member of the USQ community, I find it hard to reconcile this plan to let go of valuable academic staff with the seemingly endless stream of non-academic (mostly IT support) job positions that the university is currently advertising almost every week. This certainly brings up the question of how the university is utilising the revenues directly earned by hard-working academic staff.
The university management’s slogan for this downsizing is “Realising our Potential”. But isn’t a quality mathematics department that has been developed over the years part of the university’s potential? That they may not have great numbers can be largely attributed to failure in marketing. The academics in the mathematics department should not have to bear the brunt of the accumulated effects of the mismanagement of academic programs by decision makers.
Associate Lecturer
Faculty of Business
University of Southern Queensland
7 April, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Jo Spring
As a maths and computing teacher in a high school, I also strongly support this petition.
Jo Spring
Director of Computing
Lindisfarne Anglican Grammar School
7 April, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Ivanky Saputra
I strongly support this petition.
They may not see the importance of mathematics, but they will be. I am sure. Let’s hope a better solution will come out soon.
7 April, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Eder Kikianty
I strongly support this petition. Mathematics is important and crucial, not only for students in Maths department, but for others as well.
Eder Kikianty
PhD Student, School of Computer Science and Mathematics,
Victoria University
7 April, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Adrian Banner
I strongly support this petition.
Adrian Banner
Mathematics, Princeton University
7 April, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Richard Fraccaro
I support this petition, but would highlight the growing reliance on data mining in the commercial sector for data analytics. In academic circles, data mining tends to be the province of the Computer Sciences, and practiced by those with little or no formal training in statistical inference. Data mining is often incorrectly promoted as being a collection of ‘black box’ techniques (even when they include classical statistical methods, eg logistic regression!). In fact, formal training in statistical inference trains the mind to properly use data mining techniques and to appreciate important subtleties that are missed by those not similarly trained. I have no doubt that Maths and Stats would have much greater relevance if academics/practicioners embraced data mining, included it in our formal training, etc.
7 April, 2008 at 7:19 pm
Pam Davy
Graduate mathematicians and statisticians are in high demand within Australian government and industry. Cutting academic staff in these areas is short-sighted and potentially very damaging to the reputation of USQ.
Senior Lecturer in Statistics
School of Mathematics and Applied Statistics
University of Wollongong
7 April, 2008 at 7:21 pm
Anonymous
I fully support this petition
Alex Hua
Melbourne University
7 April, 2008 at 7:25 pm
Qiwei Yao
I strongly support this petition.
Qiwei Yao
Professor of Statistics
London School of Economics
7 April, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Marta Pecuch-Herrero
I strongly support this petition. Those who are proposing the cuts should be made aware that the University would be irreparably damaged by reducing the Mathematics Department to teaching service courses.
7 April, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Jonathan Sparling
Jonathan Sparling
PhD Candidate in Mathematics
University of Chicago
7 April, 2008 at 7:51 pm
David Reid
I wholeheartedly support this petition. It is yet further evidence that we are being driven by administrators with no regard for enhancing education or equiping people for life.
David Reid
Principal Biometrician
DPI&F (Qld)
7 April, 2008 at 7:55 pm
Carol Knox
I strongly support this petition
Carol Knox
Director of Mathematics
Lindisfarne Anglican Grammar School
7 April, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Margie Smith
I strongly support this petition.
We have one university in town that has “lost” it’s Mathematics Department and I am sure that there have been others around Australia that have gone the same way.
If this issue is not highlighted, soon we will have to travel overseas to study Mathematics or just be content with the “lite-maths” on offer at the Australian Universities.
Margie Smith
Canberra College
Australia
7 April, 2008 at 7:57 pm
Jan Thomas
Where do I start? Those of you who know me, know that I have been battling in many ways for the mathematical sciences in Australia for a long time. So let me put USQ in context and stress how really important this issue is.
Back in the mid 80s I was happily working with teachers on issues related to language and mathematics. Then in the late 80s bureaucrats decided that a particularly nasty version of a national mathematics curriculum meant that the various education departments didn’t need specialist like me helping schools because this document solved all. About this time I got involved at the national level with the politics of mathematical sciences in Australia. After all, it’s no good writing about inequity in mathematics education for students from indigenous or other backgrounds who are being failed by the system if there are fundamental problems with teacher supply, university offerings and a host of other things. So here I am, 20 years on and should be retired, still fighting a battle for what should be the right of every young Australian, a first-rate mathematics education.
The battle to save mathematics and statistics at USQ is much bigger than a single university but winning it is fundamental to winning equity, access, social justice and social inclusion for many young Australians. If we don’t fix the problem in the universities, we don’t have teachers and the teachers we do have go to the schools of the privileged.
There is only one mathematician left at Charles Darwin University in the Northern Territory which is home to many of our indigenous people. It is hard enough for young people from any remote community to relocate for their education but harder still for those tied closely to their families and land.
I keep doing what I can. I’ve been helped by many wonderful mathematical scientist over the years who don’t seem to mind that I’m not actually a mathematician. I’m technically an organic chemist according to a rather dated piece of paper. I also have some good genes for this – my father was a politician.
Garth Gaudry was a mathematical mentor to Terry. I particularly want to acknowledge the wonderful support and help Garth has given me since we first met in the late 80s. There are others too numerous to mention but Garth was the first to assist me into the politics of all this. So I do now have some pretty good political connections and some good media people to call on.
The formation of the Australian Mathematical Sciences Institute (AMSI) has given me a base to support all our members and the mathematical community more generally. But we have to re-build that community. Not just at USQ by at Charles Darwin, Flinders and others. We need to expand it in the bigger universities who have also suffered greatly in the last ten years or so.
USQ is the tip of a very large ice-berg. There should be no compromise over this. USQ should be expanding its offerings, not closing them off. As should every other university in Australia.
This is not just about mathematics and statistics or research in universities. This is a fundamental equity and social inclusion issue and university administrators across Australia have an obligation to the nation to help solve it, not make it worse. This includes those at USQ.
Jan Thomas
Executive Officer, AMSI
7 April, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Boris Choy
I strongly support the petition.
Boris Choy,
University of Technology Sydney
7 April, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Anonymous
I strongly endorse this petition and urge the university administration to devise a solution that will not undercut the quality of education for students in the mathematic and science fields.
Lorraine Goo
Los Angeles, CA
7 April, 2008 at 8:30 pm
Narelle Beaumont
I strongly support this petition.
Narelle Beaumont
Lecturer in Tourism
Faculty of Business
University of Southern Queensland
7 April, 2008 at 8:30 pm
John Coates
I grew up in the New South Wales countryside and was able to become a mathematician thanks to an enlightened system of support which then existed for the teaching of mathematics in both country high schools and universities around Australia. It has really saddened me to see this support so badly eroded over the last 15 years throughout Australia. When the federal government recently announced at last additional funds for mathematics in Australian universities, I hoped that there was again a new chance for young Australians to learn and practice a discipline which is fundamental both for the economy and civilization. The action of the University of Southern Queensland in doing away with all non-service teaching courses in mathematics seems to run comletely contrary to this hope.
John Coates, Sadleirian Professor of Pure Mathematics, University of Cambridge, FRS
7 April, 2008 at 8:35 pm
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
Larry Zhang
College of Sciences
Massey University (Wellington)
7 April, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Anonymous
I support this petition.
Math = good.
More Math.
Nicole Kim
Graduate Student 09
Columbia University School of Social Work
7 April, 2008 at 8:42 pm
John Stillwell
I strongly support this petition, and thanks, Terry, for raising
the issue. It is heartbreaking to see the continued destruction
of a once-great system of mathematics education.
John Stillwell
University of San Francisco
(and honorary member of Monash University)
7 April, 2008 at 8:49 pm
Dr Gary Carter
I fully support the petition to “save” mathematics and statistics at USQ. What USQ is doing is flying in the face of the most pressing educational needs as identified by all state and federal governments. Situations such as the one at USQ do not arise overnight. These situations trend. My question is why has the administration at USQ ignored this trend? It beggars belief that they were not aware of it. Had they begun an active marketing campaign as soon as the trend was observed, as countless other universities have had to do, there is every chance that such a situation as they now find themselves in would not have arisen. This appears to be fairly and squarely a case of misjudgement on the part of the university administration. I thus urge USQ to reconsider its proposed cuts to mathematics and statistics.
Dr Gary Carter, School of Mathematical Sciences, QUT.
7 April, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Michael Jennings
I strongly support this petition.
7 April, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Scott Foster
I support the petition.
7 April, 2008 at 8:55 pm
John Field
I strongly support the petition. From the demand for statistical consulting in industry which I see through my work, it is apparent that Australia needs more, not less, mathematics and statistics graduates.
John Field
John Field Consulting Pty Ltd
Adelaide SA
7 April, 2008 at 8:56 pm
Suzanne Curtis
This is a very important issue. We need strong maths, stats and computing departments in our universities to train our future generations. How can we claim to be a “clever country” if we do not support ( and be seen to be supporting) such basic and essential areas?
Suzanne Curtis
Associate Lecturer
Statistics
Macquarie University
7 April, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Josh McDaniel
I support this petition. Mathematics, Statistics, and Computer Science are important in our everyday lives and we need to support work in these areas more than ever in the future.
Josh McDaniel
Graduate Student
Department of Mathematics and Statistics
Arizona State University
7 April, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Muhammad Akram
I strongly support the petition. I worked in statistical consulting for some times and from this experience I know that there is a huge demand of statistics and mathematics in Australia.
Muhamamd Akram
Research-Fellow
Monash University Australia
7 April, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Alex Stuckey
I strongly support this petition.
Alex Stuckey
PhD student
School of Mathematics and Statistics
University of Western Australia
7 April, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Dr Chris Brien
I strongly support this petition. It seems short-sighted to be contemplating such a cut at a time when the government is starting to recognize the need to promote mathematics and statistics.
Chris Brien
Senior Lecturer in Statistics
University of Sth Australia
7 April, 2008 at 9:19 pm
Ray Hingst
If mathematics and statistics are reduced to a token profile at USQ, student opportunity, faculty staff and the university’s reputation will all suffer a diminution. The resonance this issue has created around the world is testament to its importance. This petition has united the voices of many in support of mathematicss and statistics in a manner that USQ management could only wish to focus on the university generally.
Hopefully reason will prevail and our expressions count.
Ray Hingst
Lecturer
Faculty of Business
University of Southern Queensland
7 April, 2008 at 9:19 pm
Chris Lloyd
While endorsing the aim of the petition, the reason UQ is doing this is because they make much more mooney from full fee paying Asian students. Local students make much less money for the uni. I imagine Lovegrove will argue that the extra money he gets from foreign students will be put into research, and that he sees his mission as promoting research rather than training statisticians.
You either get the government to fund local students at around $20k per year, or you set up an incentive for our universities to shun local students.
Chris Lloyd
University of Melbourne
7 April, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Lewis Mitchell
I strongly support this petition.
Lewis Mitchell
PHD student
University of Sydney
7 April, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Bob Murison
I sign this petition and endorse all said above.
I got my start at the DDIAE ( it became USQ) and they taught maths well enough to enable me to kick on at sandstone universities. Many other statisticians profited likewise. As Australia cries out for mathematicians, sources such as USQ are critical.
USQ knows the Federal government’s priorities in rebuilding mathematics for Australia to be competitive in industry, commerce and science. Rejection of that plan is foolhardy.
The optimism for other areas to grow ignores their need to exploit modern mathematics so USQ may be risking those disciplines rather than promoting them.
Bob Murison
School of science & technology
University of New England
7 April, 2008 at 9:45 pm
Anonymous
support
7 April, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Colleen Duke
I strongly support this petition.
Colleen Duke
Current finance/Maths Student
University of Southern Queensland
7 April, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Mervyn J Silvapulle
Professor Peter Hall has summarized the points and hence no need to reiterate.
Thanks to Professor Terry Tao for your active support and interest in this matter.
Professor Mervyn J. Silvapulle
Monash University.
7 April, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Anonymous
I support the petition.
A decision based on sectional/divisional financial analysis overlooks the interconnections between faculties, departments and individuals — now and in the future.
Dr Peter J Phillips
Lecturer in Finance
University of Southern Queensland
7 April, 2008 at 10:03 pm
Frances Griffin
I strongly support this petition!
How stupid does the UQ administration have to be, not to realise that the good students will not go there to study science, technology or economics if it is not supported by a strong mathematics department?
Frances Griffin
Associate Lecturer
Department of Mathematics
Macquarie University
7 April, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Anonymous
I totally support this petition.
The most innovative applications often come
from good mathematical ideas.
7 April, 2008 at 10:17 pm
Louise Lillicrap
I strongly support this petition. We live in an age where there are many and increasing pressures to find the most efficient and equitable use of resources and finances. Well trained mathematicians and statisticians play a crucial role in this process.
Louise Lillicrap
Research and Evaluation Coordinator
Great Southern Population Health
7 April, 2008 at 10:18 pm
Anonymous
I support this petition.
Ido Efrat
Department of Mathematics
Ben-Gurion University of the Negev
Be’er-Sheva, Israel
7 April, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Irene Penesis
I strongly support this petition.
Irene Penesis
Senior Lecturer in Mathematics
National Centre for Maritime Engineering and Hydrodynamics
AMC
University of Tasmania
7 April, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Cath Harris
I strongly support this petition.
Not only are Australian artists heading overseas for training, careers and recognition, but the ideas and technology developed by our vibrant and innovative mathematical and scientific community is as well, to the detriment of Australia’s reputation and ability to face it’s own energy challenges. I think being an advanced mathematician is as creative as any artistic endeavour.
My, my, how USQ has fallen from its heady days of 2000-01 Joint Winner of University of the Year from the Good Universities Guide!
Meanwhile, I went to Oakey State High School (20 mins west from Toowoomba) and was good friends with Jason Austin, who went on to be the 2001 USQ University Medal recipient – the University’s highest honour – and he was also awarded the 2000 Institution of Engineers’ Australia Wilmoth Medal and Prize (http://www.usq.edu.au/resources/usqregalia.pdf or http://www.usq.edu.au/resources/18apr.pdf).
The man’s a genius and if USQ didn’t offer fantastic engineering and mathematics courses, I doubt they would ever have attracted someone of Jason’s calibre!
This appalling situation at USQ speaks volumes of the crumbling standards of education within the tertiary education sector in Australia.
Cath Harris, BA in Comcn (Hons), DipGovt (Mngt), GradDipEd&Pub
Communication Specialist and concerned citizen
Melbourne
7 April, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Warren Muller
As an applied statistician I see the need for a strong mathematics and statistics background for future statisticians, and for scientists in a wide range of disciplines to have the opportunity to collaborate with and seek advice from statisticians. The USQ proposal, if adopted, would further weaken mathematics and statistics in Australia and create a poor impression about mathematics and statistics among USQ graduates in other areas.
I strongly support this petition.
Warren Muller
CSIRO Mathematical and Information Sciences
Canberra
7 April, 2008 at 10:23 pm
Samuel Mueller
I strongly support this petition.
Dr Samuel Mueller
Lecturer
School of Mathematics and Statistics,
University of Sydney
7 April, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Professor Saroja Selvanathan
I strongly support this petition.
7 April, 2008 at 10:33 pm
Anonymous
I totally support this petition. Good luck.
7 April, 2008 at 10:47 pm
Dr Kuldeep Kumar
Mathematics and Statistics courses are integral part of any University Curriculum. These subjects also provide service courses which should be taught by qualified statistcians rather than Faculty from other discipline. They support Humanities, Medical, Agriculture, IT and other schools. I am sure student numbers in Statistics will increase after the TV program like Numbers (enrolement in Forensic Science increased after CSI program started). Also University should acknowledge the fact that numeracy skill is going down amongst students and they can’t do even simple calculation. Maths and Stats should be a core course in all disciplines. Hence Faculty strength should increase rather than decreasing.
7 April, 2008 at 10:51 pm
Michael Lin
I strongly support the petition.
Michael Lin, Ben-Gurion University, Israel
7 April, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Andrew Anson
As a student currently studying mathematics in Adelaide, Terry Tao’s home town, I support his petition and will attempt to create awareness of the situation around Adelaide.
Well done Terry!!
7 April, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Dr Barbara Maenhaut
I strongly support this petition.
Dr Barbara Maenhaut
Mathematics Lecturer
The University of Queensland
7 April, 2008 at 10:54 pm
Gordon Smyth
I strongly support this petition. It is hard to imagine how any serious university could propose to close down its mathematics department, which is what USQ is effectively doing. Graduates with high-level mathematics and statistics expertise are essential to support research across the whole range of the sciences.
Dr Gordon Smyth
WEHI Senior Research Fellow
Bioinformatics Division
Walter and Eliza Hall Institute of Medical Research
7 April, 2008 at 10:59 pm
Prof Johann Engelbrecht
In the light of the shortage of mathematics, science and technology people worldwide, I find it quite surprising that any mathematics department in the world should be cutting down on staff. This particular department has some very good people that are known internationally and are very much involved in international collaboration projects such as the Delta movement (consisting of countries in the southern hemisphere). In my country (South Africa) we need more good mathematicians and are very careful about how we treat them. I am sure we will welcome staff members that lose their positions at USQ! Apparently Australia can afford losing these people?
Prof Johann Engelbrecht (Professor of Mathematics, University of Pretoria, South Africa, Director of the SA Mathematics Foundation and current chairperson of the DELTA movement)
7 April, 2008 at 10:59 pm
David Green
I strongly support this petition.
7 April, 2008 at 11:03 pm
Assoc Prof John Shepherd
As a working academic mathematician in an Australian metropolitan university, I strongly support this petition. I am deeply concerned at this
and other recent actions directed at undermining the status of mathematics in our universities.
7 April, 2008 at 11:06 pm
Lindsay Peters
I also strongly support this position
7 April, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Kevin Wang
I strongly support this petition.
As a former Young Statisticians’ Representative of the Canberra Branch of the SSAI, I worked very hard with representatives from other states and territories to recruit student members. It is therefore extremely disheartening to see this proposal made by the USQ. There is a shortage of statisticians across almost all major job markets in the country, not the least being major government departments, banking/financial industries and pharmaceutical companies. Good and sensible educators should therefore be encouraging students to study statistics!
Kevin Wang, GStat
7 April, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Ewan Barker
I strongly support this petition.
Ewan Barker
Information Technology and Mathematical Sciences
University of Ballarat
7 April, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Annette Dobson
I strongly support the petition. The need for Mathematics and Statistics is everywhere. If you lose Mathematics and Statistics then you lose Engineering, Bioinformatics and other disciplines that are crucial to Australia’s future. To close Mathematics and Statistics at regional universities like USQ is to deprive students from country areas of the opportunity to qualify to compete in a flatter world.
Annette Dobson, Professor of Biostatistics, University of Queensland
7 April, 2008 at 11:23 pm
Susan Worsley
I strongly support this petition.
Maths Honours Student
University of Queensland
Australia
7 April, 2008 at 11:26 pm
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
Daniel Norrison
7 April, 2008 at 11:28 pm
Anonymous
I support this petition. An Australia-wide shortage of scientists, statisticians, mathematicians and mathematic teachers is well documented. The proposed cuts at USQ are therefore very surprising and disheartening.
Matthew Williams
Senior Research Scientist
Department of Environment and Conservation, WA
7 April, 2008 at 11:33 pm
Rob Reeves
I also strongly support the petition. It is shameful that a university worthy of the name plans to have no maths or statistics department training specialist mathematicians and statisticians. It speaks volumes about the university management that they even should consider such a retrograde step. It indicates to me a failure to comprehend the meaning of the word University, a failure to appreciate the nature of scientific education and mathematical literacy, and an abdication of responsibility to future generations of students. Universities, as the custodians, developers, and interpreters of human knowledge, have a responsibility to take every possible action to fulfill their custodianship, in the interests of a prosperous future for the nation. For the university administrators to so abjectly repudiate their responsibilities in this way bodes ill for the country, and serves as a dire appraisal of Australian higher education policy over the last decades.
Rob Reeves
Lecturer in Statistics
Queensland University of Technology
7 April, 2008 at 11:33 pm
Lars R Knudsen
I support this petition.
Lars R Knudsen
Professor
DTU Mathematics, Denmark
7 April, 2008 at 11:34 pm
Dr Eddie Ly
I strongly support this petition.
7 April, 2008 at 11:38 pm
Prof Ansie Harding
I strongly support this petition.
7 April, 2008 at 11:38 pm
Dr Bruce D Craven
I strongly support this petition. It is extremely important that USQ, and other Australian universities, retain viable department of mathematics and statistics, thus not only minimal service courses. Mathematics and statistics are important, not just for heir own sakes, but because these disciplines are critically required for most other areas of science and technology.
7 April, 2008 at 11:42 pm
Yihong Du
I strongly support this petition. This action of USQ is short-sighted. The cost of its reputation will far overweight the short-term financial savings.
Yihong Du
Professor of Mathematics
University of New England, Armidale
7 April, 2008 at 11:52 pm
Andrew Jenkins
It is vital that all Universities retain strength in the fundamental disciplines. I strongly support this petition.
Andrew Jenkins
Head of Credit Derivatives Quantitative Development
The Royal Bank of Scotland
8 April, 2008 at 12:02 am
Joan Hendrikz
I strongly and unequivocally support this petition.
The intentions to down size and weaken the Department of Mathematics and Computing would make USQ the most unsmart university in the smart state, and quite frankly an academic embarrassment for the campus.
Member of SSAI
8 April, 2008 at 12:07 am
Peter Taylor
Clearly comments from people like Peter Hall and John Henstridge highlight the parlous state of mathematics in Australia.
It is a complex problem without easy solution but it would help if government could take more direct interest.
I can understand a University cutting a vocational course if uneconomic, however for a University to really be called a University and be positioned for future opportunities it really needs to maintain a core knowledge of fundamental subjects in the arts and sciences, certainly including mathematics.
Professsor Peter Taylor
Executive Director
Australian Mathematics Trust
8 April, 2008 at 12:22 am
Robert Dale
I strongly endorse this petition.
Professor Robert Dale
Department of Computing
Macquarie University, Australia
8 April, 2008 at 12:22 am
John Piperias
I sincerely endorse the petition to preserve, retain and improve upon the capabilities of the USQ Mathematics, Computing and associated departments. The core sciences are the breeding areas of Australia’s research and development, and will be the springboard to much of the innovation, creativity and indeed our future aspirations in Australia.
John Piperias
Senior Lecturer Computing Science
Middlesex University – Dubai
8 April, 2008 at 12:31 am
Kristen Moore
I support this petition.
PhD Student,
Albert Einstein Institute, Germany.
8 April, 2008 at 12:41 am
Stephen Muirhead
I suppose this petition.
Student
Melbourne University
8 April, 2008 at 12:43 am
Maryanne Large
What kind of University doesn’t have a decent maths department?
A mickey mouse one.
I strongly endorse this petition.
Dr Maryanne Large
ARC Fellow, University of Sydney
8 April, 2008 at 12:47 am
Samir Saker
I strongly support this petition. Mathematics is necessary in different areas, in biology, ecology, population dynmics, etc. No body can ignore this reality.
Dr. Samir Saker
King Saud University
8 April, 2008 at 12:52 am
David Farmer
I strongly support this petition.
PhD Student
RMIT University, Melbourne.
8 April, 2008 at 1:02 am
Giancarlo Travaglini
I strongly support this petition and I hope a reasonable compromise will be found.
8 April, 2008 at 1:10 am
Bertfried Fauser
The reduction of a Department to service teaching only, will inevitably cut down the ability to guide Students to a high level of sophistication, cutting down their career chances and the potential to serve a comunity. For that reason I strongly support this petition.
8 April, 2008 at 1:22 am
D. Tilakaratne
I strongly support his petition.
8 April, 2008 at 1:26 am
Graham Broughton
Professor Tao. I fully support this petition. As a practicing teacher in a remote location I can only upgrade my knowledge and skills through distance education. I am currently enrolled in a Graduate Diploma in Maths at USQ. The staff in Mathematics, Statistics and Computing there do a magnificent job. What the USQ hierarchy is proposing is at best intellectual vandalism.
8 April, 2008 at 1:29 am
Adrian Barnett
This is a real shame. There are good people in this department doing valuable research and teaching.
Statistician
Queensland University of Technology
8 April, 2008 at 1:32 am
Dominic Di Martino
It has always been my view that humanity’s greatest achievement has been the discovery of the universal language of mathematics and the immutable laws that govern all of our universe. USQ has stood amongst a small group of institutions dedicated to the development and training of mathematics in this country. I strongly urge all to please reconsider this decision and reinstate USQ’s leadership in mathematics and statistics. Dominic Di Martino. Student at USQ.
8 April, 2008 at 1:33 am
Anthony Carbery
I fully support this important petition.
Anthony Carbery FRSE
Colin Maclaurin Professor of Mathematics,
University of Edinburgh
8 April, 2008 at 1:33 am
Carlo Hämäläinen
As a recently expatriated Australian mathematician, I support this petition.
Carlo Hämäläinen
Postdoc
Charles University, Prague
8 April, 2008 at 1:41 am
Abdul Rahim Khan,KFUPM,Saudi Arabia
I fully support this important petition.
8 April, 2008 at 1:50 am
Brailey Sims
This petition has my strongest support. I am appalled that any university administration would even contemplate reductions such as those proposed for Mathematics at the University(?) of Southern Queensland.
It beggars the imagination that such an action could be entertained in the face of our dire national shortage of skilled mathematicians, statisticians, scientists and engineers not to mention the compounding desperate need throughout our education systems for many more qualified mathematics and science teachers.
I urge USQ to reconsider, and better position itself to help address the skills crisis rather than contribute to it.
Brailey Sims FAustMS
Deputy President Academic Senate
A/Professor of Mathematics and Head of Discipline
School of Mathematical and Physical Sciences
The University of Newcastle
8 April, 2008 at 1:51 am
Henry P Wynn
I fully support the petition to support maths computing and statistics at USQ and the “test” of the petition in particular.
Ask any serious academic and they will say that a strong department of this kind is an essentially feature of a modern university and I cannot think of a single reason in which a cut back would needed. The opportunties for students with these quintesentially logical, numerate and modelling skills are simply fantastic. Name any area of science and it will be simply desparate to have such people working in it: mathematical/system biology, envrironmemtal modelling, insurance risk, econometrics etc etc. And the same for industry and government. The research opportunities in these hybrid areas are huge. But also within and between the trio of maths, stats and computer science the opportunties are also huge: machine/statistical learning, algebraic statistics, discrete mathematics and optimisation, coding and cryptology, symbolic algebra, dynamical systems etc etc. far from being a declining area in the UK and Europe, and against predictions, applications for maths course are INCREASING. There is a rumour that in Italy, which has done a great job marketing mathematics, applications to university to do maths has DOUBLED in two years. Cutting back on these areas is a way of removing OPTIONS and is a guarantee to miss out on this renaisance. It seems to me to be immensely short-sighted.
Think again!
8 April, 2008 at 1:55 am
Anonymous
Suit Lean
I strongly endorse this petition.
Thanks to everyone especially Pro. Terry Tao expressing great concern over the proposed cuts
Member of SSAI
8 April, 2008 at 1:55 am
stephane chretien
I strongly support this petition
stephane chretien
Mathematics Department
Universite de Franche Comte
France
8 April, 2008 at 2:18 am
Dr Chris Harman
I strongly support the wording and the intent of the petition. As a retired academic and a former head of the USQ department in question, I am in a good position to comment further. The department is one of the leaders at USQ in research activity and output. Just as importantly, the department has developed into a position of renowned excellence in teaching of university level mathematics and statistics. This has been backed up by internationally recognised research into the theory and practice of teaching undergraduate students. I well know at first hand that students appreciate the high quality of teaching in mathematics & statistics at USQ, but it is a pity sometimes that the message does not seem to filter through to university decision makers. By cutting back to a small number of service teaching staff in these subject areas, students will suffer, USQ will suffer a decline in standards, and Australian industry and society will suffer at a time when it is becoming obvious to governments and industry that we need, and are getting, more investment in science and mathematics. The irony of the planned cutback is beyond comprehension.
Chris Harman
Retired Associate Professor of Mathematics
Former Head of Department, USQ
8 April, 2008 at 2:35 am
William Hart
Having worked overseas for a number of years now in Mathematics, I can certainly attest to the fact that a strong mathematics department is integral to the health of the research profile and undergraduate strength of a university. The same can be said of computing.
As a former IMO member for Australia, I am appalled by the proposal to wipe out mathematics at this Australian university. I can only imagine it comes from the mind of a terribly shortsighted individual who is not competent enough to understand the importance of the mathematical sciences. They certainly cannot add up, anyway.
Look at history and understand that from ancient times mathematics was the lynch pin of education, culture and civilisation. In fact, at one point, all areas of knowledge were considered parts of mathematics. The decline of mathematics can only mean the decline of civilisation and is something we should be terribly afraid of.
William Hart
Research Fellow
Mathematical Insititute
Warwick University
Former IMO Team Member
8 April, 2008 at 3:01 am
Robert G. Staudte
When I arrived in Australia in 1974, the University
system was strong. In particular, Mathematics and Statistics were highly regarded disciplines.
After the Dawkins ‘reforms’ many other tertiary institutions were given the title University,
without justification or real financial support. All
institutions in the new system were treated as businesses, rather than adequately funded social institutions. The result has been a deterioration in
the programs at all universities, and a large increase in financial burden for students.
The situation at USQ is symptomatic of the malaise facing the tertiary sector, and the only heartening aspect is the overwhelmning support
shown by the national and international community
for the mathematicians, statisticians and computer scientists under the chopping block at USQ
Without a major change in thinking about the
nature of the tertiary sector by the federal government, and the importance of it to this nation’s future, the USQ ‘business decisions’ will continue to be repeated throughout the country.
It is time for big changes and action, not more tinkering with the system, but I am not optimistic.
8 April, 2008 at 3:05 am
Peter Adams
I am extremely disappointed at the proposed decimation of mathematics and statistics at USQ. Such a step would be very damaging to Queensland, and would help to perpetuate the serious problems in secondary and tertiary mathematics education in the state. More generally, I do not understand why mathematics/statistics is so often seen as an appropriate target for such drastic cuts.
Peter Adams,
Prfoessor of Mathematics,
The University of Queensland.
8 April, 2008 at 3:16 am
Wilson Ong
I strongly support this petition.
It is very important to receive a through undergraduate education before considering more advanced problems.
Wilson Ong
Mathematics/CompSci Student
The University of Western Australia
8 April, 2008 at 3:24 am
Ragnar Norberg
If the world were governed by a small collection of simple deterministic laws, I might not have supported this petition. However, since almost all important and interesting phenomena are complex and typically involve chance variations, I do support the petition. Advanced mathematical modeling is essential in virtually all sciences and to their countless applications in a science-based society – in engineering, medicine, management, government, business, and so forth. It is a widespead misconception that mathematics is just a toolkit from which suitable formulas can be fetched each time some calculation is needed. The truth is that mathematics has grown in close interaction with and in response to the challenges posed by its applications. A strong academic unit in mathematics, with scientific computation and statistics is an indispensable part of a university of today.
8 April, 2008 at 3:25 am
Richard Gray
I strongly support this partition.
Richard Gray
University of New South Wales
8 April, 2008 at 3:33 am
David Holmes
I strongly support this partition
David Holmes
Civil and Environmental Engineering
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
8 April, 2008 at 3:47 am
Shaun Belward
I know what it is like to work in a university with just 6 maths/stats staff! I started work at JCU in 1993 with about 15 maths staff, now we have 6. We still claim to offer a maths major, but only just. Let us all hope this will turn around soon – for the sake of our country!
Shaun Belward
School of Maths, Physics & IT
James Cook University
8 April, 2008 at 3:51 am
Fiona Beer
I strongly support this petition.
Fiona Beer
Biostatistical Programmer
Amgen
8 April, 2008 at 3:55 am
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
Sincerely,
Alex Iosevich
Professor of Mathematics
University of Missouri-Columbia
Columbia Missouri 65211 USA
iosevich@math.missouri.edu
8 April, 2008 at 4:07 am
agah d. garnadi
I am strongly support the petition
Agah D. Garnadi
ANU maths graduates
8 April, 2008 at 4:07 am
Anonymous
As an ex-pat statistician, I strongly support this petition.
Sarah Ratcliffe
Assistant Professor of Biostatistics
University of Pennsylvania
8 April, 2008 at 4:08 am
George Willis
I strongly support this petition. Service teaching does not provide students with the depth of understanding needed to apply mathematics in imaginative and non-routine ways. The proposed cut closes off the opportunity for USQ students to join the global mathematical community.
It’s time to start rebuilding Australian mathematics.
George Willis,
University of Newcastle.
8 April, 2008 at 4:10 am
Chaitanya Rao
I too wholeheartedly support this petition (great work Terry). I do hope the USQ administrators reconsider.
I feel I had a terrific undergraduate mathematics education in Melbourne, taught by strong mathematicians whose talent inspired me. I thrived in that challenging environment, along with similarly motivated individuals who have already commented here. That mathematical background was largely called upon for my Electrical Engineering PhD at Caltech, and serves me well today as a wireless communications research engineer.
With our world increasingly reliant on technology that has mathematics at its core, it is essential that universities continue to support their teaching and research programs in this area. I do not want to see the next generation of Australians miss out on the increased appreciation of our world that a strong mathematics education brings, not to mention the opportunity to contribute globally in Science and Technology.
Chaitanya Rao
NEC Australia
8 April, 2008 at 4:16 am
Candice Hincksman
I support this petition!
8 April, 2008 at 4:23 am
James Bennett
I strongly support this petition.
PhD Student
RMIT University, Melbourne.
8 April, 2008 at 4:52 am
Ron Harper
As someone now working with educational institutions in India, I am appalled at how our attitudes in Australia contrast with the respect given to mathematics in that country. Australians need to wake up that there are many people in India waiting to take the initiative in so many ways. Good on them. But there is also a part of me that hopes that this country Australia will want to keep up with India. USQ can show that leadership now. Bill Lovegrove, stick with the mathematicians; otherwise people will say that like Gerry Ford you played too much football without a helmet in your younger days. This is the time to grasp the future. Take a look at the movie ‘Stand and Deliver’. You can make a mark in mathematics; become a regional centre of excellence. Maybe we should talk sometime about helping you to connect better with India. If it is students you need, there are an awful lot there.
Inspiring to see you take the leadership on this Terry Tao. I support you in every way.
8 April, 2008 at 4:58 am
Richard Kent
I strongly support this petition.
Richard P. Kent IV
Assistant Professor
Brown University
8 April, 2008 at 5:02 am
Anonymous
As a former student of mathematics, I strongly support this petition.
Tuan Nguyen
System Engineer.
8 April, 2008 at 5:11 am
Suvash Saha
I also strongly support this petition.
Suvash C. Saha
PhD Student
School of Engineering
8 April, 2008 at 5:14 am
Nick Sheridan
I support this petition.
Nick Sheridan
PhD student in mathematics
MIT
8 April, 2008 at 5:20 am
Lisbeth Fajstrup
I strongly support this petition.
Lisbeth Fajstrup
Associate Professor
Department of Mathematical sciences
University of Aalborg
Denmark
8 April, 2008 at 5:23 am
Vanessa Cave
I support this petition
8 April, 2008 at 5:26 am
Robert G. Staudte
I wholeheartedly support this petition.
Robert G. Staudte
Associate Professor
Former Head, School of Mathematical and Statistical Sciences, La Trobe University
8 April, 2008 at 5:33 am
Duncan Farrow
I support this petition and the comments made here.
Duncan Farrow
Senior Lecturer & Program Chair
Mathematics and Statistics
Murdoch University
8 April, 2008 at 5:34 am
William McCallum
UQ is cutting out its heart to save the rest of its body. Hopefully it will reconsider this reckless plan.
8 April, 2008 at 5:58 am
Anne-Christine Davis
I strongly support this petition. Mathematics is essential in any University.
8 April, 2008 at 6:01 am
Dr. Anne Warman
I strongly support this petition and am very opposed to the University of Southern Queensland’s attempt to further contribute to the loss of Australia’s aspiring Mathemathical minds. Our country desperately needs to rebuild its passion for Maths and Science, not tear it down further. As a parent of a child in the Queensland school system,who loves maths, it is a real concern that there are already not enough good passionate Maths teachers. There is a real risk that ongoing mediocre teaching will extinguish the flame that my daughter and others have, and in so doing, ensuring that our next generation continue to proliferate this negative spiral.
8 April, 2008 at 6:05 am
Anonymous
I fully support this petition.
8 April, 2008 at 6:14 am
Javier Duoandikoetxea
I fully support this petition.
Javier Duoandikoetxea
Professor of Mathematics
University of the Basque Country
Spain
8 April, 2008 at 6:16 am
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
Thomas Østergaard Sørensen
Associate Professor
Department of Mathematical Sciences
Aalborg University
Denmark
8 April, 2008 at 6:20 am
Elizabeth Mansfield
I also benefitted from a world class mathematics education in Australia.
University administrators seeking to remove the possibility of maths and science majors have no idea at all how hard it will be to recover the treasures they throw away. They are making sure their students can only achieve mediocrity and that Australia has no real future.
Elizabeth Mansfield
Professor of Mathematics
University of Kent, UK
8 April, 2008 at 6:28 am
Nenad Ujevic
I strongly support this petition.
8 April, 2008 at 6:33 am
Jon Johnsen
I fully support this petition.
Fundamental research in mathematics plays a decisive role
in many branches of applied sciences. For example high-level
mathematics was used both in the development of computers and
later in the encryption of data used in secure internet connections.
It would therefore be a most unfortunate step to reduce mathematics
and statistics to a `service branch’. People working in applied sciences
need to be in close contact with researching mathematicians — and to
receive their own mathematics education from them.
Jon Johnsen
associate professor
Department of Mathematical Sciences
Aalborg University
Denmark
8 April, 2008 at 6:47 am
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition and urge the USQ administrators to reconsider.
Best Regards.
Abderrazek Karoui,
Associate Professor,
Department of Mathematics,
Faculty of Sciences of Bizerte, Tunisia.
8 April, 2008 at 6:48 am
William Ella
I strongly support this petition.
William Ella
Undergraduate
University of Mary Washington, Fredericksburg, VA
8 April, 2008 at 6:49 am
Abderrazek Karoui
I strongly support this petition and urge the USQ administrators to reconsider.
Best Regards.
Abderrazek Karoui,
Associate Professor,
Department of Mathematics,
Faculty of Sciences of Bizerte, Tunisia.
8 April, 2008 at 6:53 am
John Cossey
I strongly support this petition. Service teaching is necessary, but will wither if not given by people fully engaged with the subject. This will happen under these proposals.
8 April, 2008 at 7:00 am
Rachel Newton
I strongly support this petition.
8 April, 2008 at 7:14 am
Trinh Do
I strongly support this petition as maths and sciences are the core subjects in developed countries. Uni cuts definitely will have a long-term damage on the future of generations. It is absolutely wrong to consider these subjects as those that do not lead to jobs, but jobs – whether it is blue-collar or not – rely on concepts taught in these subjects.
8 April, 2008 at 7:27 am
Dave Conlin
To describe these proposals as idiotic is a slander against humble and hardworking village idiots everywhere. Burn the accountants!
8 April, 2008 at 7:27 am
Guy Nason
I strongly support this petition.
Professor Guy Nason
Professor of Statistics
Head of Statistics Group
University of Bristol, UK.
8 April, 2008 at 7:38 am
Ana Khukhro
I strongly support this petition.
Ana Khukhro
Part III student,
University of Cambridge, England
8 April, 2008 at 8:50 am
Haokun Xu
I agree with William McCallum’s comment. I support this petition to help USQ Mathematics.
Haokun Xu
Undergraduate Math Major
University of Arizona
8 April, 2008 at 9:10 am
Ciaran Meachan
I support this petition to help USQ Mathematics.
8 April, 2008 at 9:21 am
Nathan Grunow
I am fully supportive of this petition and the objective to keep the math and science classes. Let’s hope this does nnot become a trend…
8 April, 2008 at 9:49 am
Neil Lyall
I strongly support this petition and urge the USQ administration to reconsider its position.
Neil Lyall
Assistant Professor
Department of Mathematics
University of Georgia
8 April, 2008 at 10:09 am
Anonymous
The proposed cuts by USQ appear remarkably short sighted.
I fully support this petition.
Robert Pego
Professor
Department of Mathematical Sciences
Carnegie Mellon University
8 April, 2008 at 10:15 am
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
Maia Lesosky
PhD candidate, Statistics
University of Guelph, Canada
8 April, 2008 at 10:19 am
Hakan Seyalioglu
I strongly support this petition.
Hakan Seyalioglu
Fulbright Scholar
Alfred Renyi Institute of Mathematics
Budapest, Hungary
8 April, 2008 at 10:37 am
Arun Ram
Having recently accepted a position at University of Melbourne,
I am looking forward to my own future contributions to Australian
mathematics. I have great hopes for the future,
but the whole community must help to
provide infrastructure and support at all levels
of mathematics education and research as it will be the backbone
of future progress of Australian science.
I strongly support this petition.
Arun Ram
Professor
University of Melbourne, Australia
8 April, 2008 at 11:11 am
Rachel Herlihy
I am a math major at the University of Arizona. I am apalled after reading this ridicu;oous statement. I feel that math and science is essential for every University and they would be making a huge mistake.
8 April, 2008 at 11:15 am
SeasnHowe
Agreed.
8 April, 2008 at 11:47 am
Don McLeish
Australian probability, statistics and mathematics has traditionally been extraordinarily successful at producing research and researchers at the highest possible level and integrating this research into application. A short-sighted view which regards tomorrow’s problems in the application of statistics as amenable to yesterdays recipes ignores both the great tradition of Australian statistics and highly practical current developments. To name just a few, most of the recent developments in Financial modeling and risk measurement, biostatistics, the handling of missing data, Markov Chain Monte Carlo and simulation are largely incomprehensible without a solid theoretical background.
8 April, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Qing Xiang
I strongly support this petition.
Qing Xiang
Professor of Mathematics
University of Delaware
Newark, DE 19716, USA
8 April, 2008 at 12:59 pm
IanDClarkMScPhD(1969 1973)
This is what I saw happening when I was forced to have psychiatric treatment without reason when I just started on my PhD thesis after completing my MSc one in about 10 months. This has ruined yet another of a large number of promising careers.
Member SSAI Econometric Society
Vic Branch Council Member SSAI 2005,2006 and once before.
8 April, 2008 at 1:10 pm
Benoit Pausader
I strongly support this petition.
Benoit Pausader
Maths PhD student,
University of Cergy-Pontoise,
France.
8 April, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Helen MacGillivray
Information is that under the USQ proposal, only 10% of the government funding to the university for the service teaching would be spent on the salaries of the staff doing the teaching. The irony is that just the new increase by itself in government funding to maths and stats would pay for the current academic staff in maths and stats at USQ. In addition, the proposal apparently severely limits the training of future teachers. If this is correct, then the proposal is reprehensible and unethical towards students, government and the community. But there are also fundamental issues of great importance to the community here. It is easy for administrations and governments to say that the training of specialists can happen at some universities, but this ignores many of the most important functions of mathematics and statistics departments. A mathematics and statistics department is the first department that should be established in every modern university. Quality service teaching needs a mathematics and statistics department to attract and retain appropriate staff and provide support and keeping up-to-date with developments in research, industry AND higher education teaching. The students who are attracted to continue with mathematics and statistics into the wide variety of career paths open to them can also be attracted through good service teaching and do not necessarily start in traditional universities. Mathematics and statistics departments also provide vital and extensive support for academics and students in other disciplines, and are involved in important outreach to schools, teachers and the community. They also either supply, sustain or bolster extra practical learning support in maths and stats for all students. USQ should be particularly proud of their maths and stats department which has done wonderful and innovative work in developing a national statistics competition, supplying the essential problem materials for popular school maths tournaments, developing and supporting an innovative international symposia series (the Delta conferences) on teaching undergraduate maths and stats, and supporting local schools, community and industry.
Professor Helen MacGillivray
Carrick Senior Fellow
President-elect International Assoc Statistics Education
School of Mathematical Sciences
QUT
8 April, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Eyvindur Ari Palsson
I endorse the petition.
Eyvindur Ari Palsson
PhD student
Cornell University
8 April, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Andrew Lorent
I support this petition.
Andrew Lorent,
Emma e Giovanni Sansone Junior Visitor,
Centro di Ricerca Matematica,
Ennio De Giorgi, Pisa
and
Assistant Professor,
Mathematics Department,
University of Cincinnati
8 April, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Anonymous
I support this petition
Daniel Scott
University of Sydney/University of Oxford
8 April, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Anonymous
I wholeheartedly endorse the goals and language of this petition.
The fact that these massive cuts were seriously considered is shocking and, quite frankly, absurd. Who would think cutting the maths department by 50% is a good idea? Most of the moves in other departments seem based more in shifting attention from some sub-disciplines to others, but the mathematics faculty is just being decimated. That is absolutely preposterous.
Peter Luthy
PhD student
Cornell University
8 April, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Shane Bracher
I strongly support this petition.
Shane Bracher
PhD Student
Bond University
8 April, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Robert McLachlan
I strongly support the petition.
Like Terry Tao and many others, I benefited from a world-class (and free) education, in my case at the University of Canterbury, in dedicated honours courses; such courses no longer exist anywhere in New Zealand.
Robert McLachlan
Professor in Applied Mathematics
President, New Zealand Mathematical Society
8 April, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Yan Ding
The comments of Prof. Barry Hughes in this petition reflected exactly what I wanted to say.
I fully support this petition.
Yan Ding
Senior lecturer
School of Mathematical and Geospatial Sciences
RMIT University
Australia
8 April, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Mike Steele
I support this petition.
I believe that service teaching in Mathematics and Statistics at universities is a major problem. At my previous university we counted 32 statistics subjects in the handbook. A grand total of 3 were taught by academics with statistical qualifications.
I also wonder about the next generation of maths teachers. Have a look at the token maths subject most universities offer their education students and you will see (at best) Year 10 mathematics.
Mike Steele
Bond University
8 April, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Doug Colbeck
I strongly support this petition.
When will the powers to be remove their short-sighted spectacles and start to realise that, to combat the critical skills shortages in this country, there is no quick fix cost cutting panacea and that getting thoses skills for in the future starts by developing them today!
8 April, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Diane Donovan
I believe that the cuts to mathematics, statistics, and computing at the University of Southern Queensland (USQ) will do severe and permanent damage to the quality of education in maths and the sciences accross Queensland. I call on the University of Southern Queensland to reverse this decision.
8 April, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Sam Roberts
As a student at USQ, I will be finishing my honors just before the cuts take place. I am extremely lucky to be finishing this soon.
From a students perspective, the mathematics and statistics academics at USQ have been fantastic, and it is extremely sad to think that there will be no options for students intending to study higher level mathematics while living in Toowoomba.
I support this petition.
Sam Roberts
Student
USQ
8 April, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Craig Westerland
I fully support this petition. As an American mathematician who recently accepted a position in Australia, I am worried about what this portends for the future of mathematics in Australia.
Craig Westerland
Van Vleck Visiting Assistant Professor
University of Wisconsin–Madison
and
Lecturer
University of Melbourne
8 April, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Anonymous
The decision to cut mathematics, statistics and computing courses at the University of Southern Queensland is a bad decision. I support the petition.
Peter Geelan-Small
PhD student
University of Sydney
8 April, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Geoff Prince
I strongly support this petition. The Commonwealth Government should require that the increased cluster funding for the mathematical sciences be spent where it’s intended and ask the universities to report on this expenditure by the middle of 2008. No university should be able to act as USQ intends without making a case to commonwealth and state governements, a case which would surely fail.
Geoff Prince
Mathematics and Statistics
La Trobe University
8 April, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Bruce Litow
I strongly support the petition.
8 April, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Adrian Lizarraga
I strongly endorse this petition. Math, statistics, and computing are absolutely essential in this technologically oriented world. Limiting these areas of study would be detrimental to all.
Adrian Lizarraga
Student
University of Arizona
8 April, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Lance Bode
I strongly support this petition. Despite all the talk, this is just another chapter in the same old story, so far as Mathematics in Australia is concerned.
Lance Bode
Associate Professor, Mathematics (Adjunct)
James Cook University
Townsville, AUSTRALIA
8 April, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Emma Hunt
I strongly support this petition and urge the USQ administration to reconsider its position.
Emma Hunt
Visiting Lecturer
School of Economics
University of Adelaide
8 April, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Jeremy O'Reilly
University graduates need to be mathematically and scientifically literate if they are to be competent in their field, irrespective of their post-graduation carreer, academic or otherwise.
Quality teaching of mathematics in service courses for non-maths/science degrees depends upon an active participation by mathemticians and statiticians who are aware of the latest research and research trends in their own field and current applications of mathematics and statistics accross a wide range of disiplines.
Faliure to support teaching and learning in non-service mathematics and statistics will result in poorer quality of teaching of all mathematics at USQ — not only will there be less opportunity for staff in other disciplines to interact with statisticans and mathematicians, there will be fewer students that have stong maths skills in other courses- which can impact on the effectiveness of peer learning in those courses, and there will be fewer graduate students in mathematics and statistics that the university can draw on to tutor students accross all service courses. A trend of emphasising application rather than a deeper understanding of quantitative methods is likely to emerge in an environment where there are not enough specialist maths and stats staff to engage with teaching and research staff in other diciplines.
The decision to cut specialist programmes in mathematics and statistics at USQ reduces opportunities for students in USQ’s catchment, and de-emphasises the importance of specalist skills and research in mathematics and statistics.
Supporting only the service teaching of maths and stats gives the false impression to students (and possibly to staff in other diciplines) that mathematicians and statisticans have little relevance to research and current applications in thier chosen field.
At a time when increasing information, scientific and quantitative literacy is expected of graduates in all fields, reducing the staff that specialise in those programs improverishes the outcomes for USQ graduates and the community that USQ serves.
Reducing the staffing in mathematics, statistics, computing and the sciences at USQ is counter-productive to the university’s long term interests.
Jeremy O’Reilly
University Preparation Program, University of Tasmania
PhD student University of Queenland
8 April, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Graham Young
As an ex-high school maths’ teacher with an undergraduate degree in Physics and Applied mathematics, I completely support this petition.
Graham Young
8 April, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Norman Do
I fully support this petition.
Norman Do
PhD Student (Mathematics)
The University of Melbourne
8 April, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Gavin Melville
I strongly support the petition.
Gavin Melville
Biometrician
Trangie NSW
8 April, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Murray Elder
I strongly support this petition.
Murray Elder
Lecturer B since 1/08
Mathematics
University of Queensland
8 April, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Zachary Wagner
I support this petition; Math and Science needs to be available for everyone.
Zachary Wagner
Undergraduate Student
University of Arizona
8 April, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Dale Holborow
I wholly support this petition in the full spirit of the author. I have a deep appreciation of the low levels of enthusiasm regarding the teaching and studying of maths and science in general in the wider community. Each time I tell someone I am studying maths, I am immediately asked, “what can you do with that? Be a teacher?” There is little perception of the wider applications, and I think that somehow, (and I honestly don’t know how…), that perception has to be corrected before any real progress can be made in bettering our current levels of science education (and participation) in Australia.
Dale Holborow
Masters Student, Financial Mathematics
University of QLD
8 April, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Harald Helfgott
I endorse this petition fully.
Harald Helfgott
Lecturer in Pure Mathematics
Bristol University
8 April, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Miranda Mortlock
I endorse this petition.
Miranda Mortlock
BSc(Hons), MSc, PhD, Grad Cert (Tertairy Education). A.Stat, C.Stat.
Accredited Statistician;Member of Statstistical Society of Australia Inc. (SSAI) ( Branch council member SSAI Queensland)
Member Royal Statistical Society, UK (Chartered Statistician)
Secretary of Science Parent Support Group, Kenmore Stae High School
8 April, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Anonymous
I fully support this petition. Mathematics teaches invaluable skills in logical thinking and reasoning, which are invaluable to any discipline and profession.
Yiying (Sally) Zhao
Final year medical student, University of Melbourne
Member of the Australian IMO (International Mathematical Olympiad) Team, 2001-2002
8 April, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Paul Jackway
I strongly support this petition and urge the USQ administration to reconsider its position. It doesn’t add up.
Pal Jackway.
Research Scientist.
8 April, 2008 at 5:37 pm
James McCoy
I support this petition.
James McCoy
Lecturer in Pure Mathematics,
University of Wollongong
8 April, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Michael Bush
I am also an expatriate living in the USA. I received a fantastic education through Australia’s public university system in the early to mid 1990s. I find it very sad that any university would contemplate such cuts (not just to mathematics but also the other disciplines mentioned). Students exposed only to basic service courses will graduate without having been stretched or intellectually challenged in these areas. They will be less well prepared to handle a world in which the ability to absorb and react to complex information is becoming more and more critical.
I strongly endorse this petition.
Michael Bush
Visiting Assistant Professor
Dept. of Mathematics and Statistics
Smith College, MA, USA
8 April, 2008 at 5:45 pm
Thomas Lam
I support this petition.
Thomas Lam
Benjamin Peirce Assistant Professor of Mathematics
Harvard University
8 April, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Andreas Seeger
I fully support this petition.
Andreas Seeger
Professor of Mathematics
University of Wisconsin-Madison
8 April, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Anonymous
I support this petition.
Ekaterina Vinkovskaya
Risk Analyst
Westpac Bank
(University of Auckland Statistics graduate)
8 April, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Agnes Boskovitz
It is sad that a university with a strong tradition of teacher training should send the signal that it believes that the training of maths teachers is not important. You can’t (or shouldn’t) be a maths teacher without solid training in maths.
8 April, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Robert Soimaru
I support this petition. As Gauss put it, mathematics is the Queen of the Sciences and thus deserves priority in any academic curriculum, much more so in the study of science.
“If in other sciences we should arrive at certainty without doubt and truth without error, it behooves us to place the foundations of knowledge in mathematics.”
- Roger Bacon
Robert Soimaru
Mathematics and Computer Science Undergraduate
University of Arizona
8 April, 2008 at 6:40 pm
Dr Hugh P Avey
I spent ten years as the Dean of the Faculty of Sciences at USQ trying to preserve and build up Sciences at USQ. Vigorous Mathematics, Physics, and Chemistry programs are essential for a Science Faculty to function properly. Mathematics, particularly, is critical, from both a University and Australian National perspective. Many areas of study use maths and require the study of it, and academics in these areas argue that the subject is best taught by a professional practitioner in the area of study. such as Maths for Accountants or Maths for Engineers. This is nonsense. To teach maths successfully the teacher must have both a love of maths and a deep understanding of it. Few members of the professions who use maths have these qualities.
USQ should rearrange its affairs so as to be able to support a vigorous maths program. It is in the University’s interest and the national interest. To do other wise is a dereliction of responsibility. I know it will not be easy, really worthwhile things seldom are, but the effort must be made.
8 April, 2008 at 7:23 pm
Dr Ayse Bilgin
I strongly support the petition.
Dr Ayse Bilgin
Department of Statistics
Macquarie University, Sydney, Australia
8 April, 2008 at 7:26 pm
B. Sari
Bunyamin Sari
Assistant Professor of Mathematics
University of North Texas
8 April, 2008 at 7:37 pm
Phil Broadbridge
I strongly support the petition and I am very grateful to all who have shown concern about USQ and the broader issues of support for mathematical sciences in Australia.
Over the past 5 years, the Australian Mathematical Sciences Institute has been devoting a lot of its resources to reverse the downward spiral in the supply of mathematically trained people. Hacking away the guts of the mathematical sciences unit in a regional university means that another large brick is being removed from the wall. This is not good for national education or for the acknowledged skills shortages in SET areas. Following the 2006 National Strategic Review of Mathematical Sciences Research in Australia, the Federal Government agreed to pay universities an additional $2700 per equivalent full time equivalent student unit. In the case of USQ, this amounts to an increase of over $1,000,000 per annum . AMSI staff and the Review team were involved in protracted negotiations with politicians and government officials to convince them that undergraduate mathematics education needed this additional support. The government will be advised that some universities have not been directing this money to its intended target. Contrary to some mis-information being spread, eight universities have already agreed to pass down to the mathematics coalface a significant fraction of the additional funds. I believe that more will follow suit. The remainder, using a phrase of V. I. Arnold, are the swine destroying the acorn tree.
8 April, 2008 at 7:44 pm
Akshay Venkatesh
I very much hope that the situation of the mathematical sciences in Australia
will not continue to deteriorate. Like many Australian expatriate mathematicians, I owe a great deal to the education I received there. I hope future students
will have access to the same opportunities.
Akshay Venkatesh
Associate Professor
New York University
8 April, 2008 at 7:44 pm
Anonymous
I support this petition
Robert Indik
Associate Professor
Department of Mathematics
University of Arizona
Tucson, Arizona USA
8 April, 2008 at 7:49 pm
M. B. Ghaemi
I support this petition.
8 April, 2008 at 7:53 pm
Anonymous
I support this petition. Mathematics is a cornerstone of of academics and intellectual pursuit. To reduce its priority in a university is to overlook the importance of logic and critical reasoning in the academic setting.
8 April, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Tim
I fully endorse this petition.
I am a regular visitor to Australia and its universities, and am saddened by these proposed cuts and that the culture exists in which they could have been conceived.
A friend working in the aeronautics industry once brought home to me a reason vigorous mathematical training is valuable. He said that aeronautical engineers who do not understand calculus become software operators, and then added… “bad software operators”.
But, quite aside from the down-to-earth rational for supporting mathematics, I pity students presented with a narrow, insipid diet of vocational courses.
Tim Riley
Lecturer
University of Bristol
8 April, 2008 at 8:35 pm
John Pate
I support this petition
John Pate
graduate student
Interdisciplinary Program in Applied Mathematics
University of Arizona
Tucson, Arizona USA
8 April, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Anonymous
Cutting these resources would be an awful thing to do to this institution. It will also be a disservice to the community the future graduates would serve.
Rigoberto L. Perez
Undergraduate Student
Mathematics with Computer Science applications
University of Arizona
Tucson, AZ, USA
8 April, 2008 at 9:02 pm
David Maher
The decision to cut mathematics, statistics and computing courses at the University of Southern Queensland is a bad decision. I support the petition.
David Maher
[PhD 2006, UNSW]
8 April, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Dr.RAIS AHMAD
I endorse this petition strongly.The move of administration of university of southern queensland to cut staff related to mathematics,statistics and computing will damage standard of education and will effect badly research in Australia.
I strongly oppose the ill move of USQ administration.
Dr.RAIS AHMAD
Department Of Mathematics
A.M.U,ALIGARH,INDIA
8 April, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Dr Robert King
I support this petition.
A fully-featured Maths, Statistics and Computing department is essential to provide any university worth its name with the research infrastructure it requires.
8 April, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Cam McLeman
I support this petition.
Cameron McLeman
Graduate Student
University of Arizona
8 April, 2008 at 9:14 pm
Ernie Kalnins
I strongly support this petition.The proposed staff cuts show an appalling
lack of understanding of the role of crucial subjects such as Mathematics,Statistics and Computer Science in a University.
Ernie Kalnins
Mathematics Department
University of Waikato
Hamilton
NEW ZEALAND
8 April, 2008 at 9:24 pm
Rachel Fewster
I support this petition.
Dr Rachel Fewster
Department of Statistics
University of Auckland
8 April, 2008 at 9:50 pm
Markus Hegland
I strongly support this petition.
I am particularly concerned about the developments at the USQ
as the mathematics department there has been a strong
and innovative
contributor to mathematics education which embraces the
links between mathematics, computing and applications. The
proposed cuts would have an impact for the education in these
applied areas of mathematics which are of wider importance in
industry, business and medicine. I am sure that the applied
mathematicians will find jobs in other departments but the
stream of mathematicians which have contributed in a wide
range of fields will dry out without proper training.
Markus Hegland
CMA, ANU
8 April, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Jennifer Wilcock
I support this petition.
Jennifer Wilcock
PhD student
Department of Statistics
University of Auckland
8 April, 2008 at 10:03 pm
Jonathan Fine
I support this petition.
As John Cossey says above “Service teaching is necessary, but will wither if not given by people fully engaged with the subject.”
8 April, 2008 at 10:12 pm
Adebisi Agboola
I strongly support this petition.
Adebisi Agboola
Professor of Mathematics
University of California, Santa Barbara
8 April, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Mahadevan Ganesh
I strongly support this petition.
Mahadevan Ganesh
Colorado School of Mines
8 April, 2008 at 10:17 pm
Richard Brent
I strongly support the petition and sincerely hope that USQ administrators will consider the long-term future and reputation of their University, not just short-term financial expediency.
Richard Brent, FAA, FIEEE, FACM, FIMA etc
ARC Federation Fellow
8 April, 2008 at 10:21 pm
Tony Bracken
I urge USQ Management not to go down this path. I think that abandoning all mathematics research will inevitably label your institution as one that doesn’t take scientific and engineering research seriously. Moreover, I belive that it is a serious mistake to think that you will be able to maintain your high-quality mathematics and statistics service teaching in the long term, without also maintaining a healthy research environment. The two go hand in hand.
USQ deserves better than this.
Tony Bracken
Collegium Budapest
(on leave from University of Queensland)
8 April, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Dr Peter Baker
I strongly support this petition
Research in mathematics and statistics are essential not only for maintaining good quality service teaching but also for supporting and enriching research in other scientific and social areas carried out at USQ.
Peter Baker
Statistician
8 April, 2008 at 11:21 pm
Judy Simpson
I fully support this petition. Australia needs more, not fewer, people who are mathematically trained, if it is to become a smarter country. And that starts with having maths teachers who have a solid university education in mathematics. I don’t see how USQ will be able to attract future staff if they are only allowed to teach services courses. I urge the administration of USQ to reconsider this short-sighted decision.
Judy Simpson
Professor of Biostatistics
University of Sydney
8 April, 2008 at 11:34 pm
Paul Leopardi
If this cut had occurred earlier, how much of this research would have been harmed:
http://www.ams.org/mathscinet/search/publications.html?p&pg7=IC&s7=5-sql-cp
?
Not to mention the long term consequences. It must take about 2 hours each way to commute from Toowoomba to Brisbane,
(eg. http://www.theairportflyer.com.au/) so anyone who seriously wants to study mathematics even at an undergraduate level would have to leave the area.
8 April, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Geoffrey Grimmett
I support this petition.
Geoffrey Grimmett
Professor of Mathematical Statistics
Cambridge University
9 April, 2008 at 12:00 am
Sam Gunningham
I strongly support this petition.
Sam Gunningham
Part III student,
University of Cambridge, England
9 April, 2008 at 12:01 am
Tim Black
I am an undergraduate student currently studying the Mathematics and Statistics major at USQ. I qhole-heartedly support this petition and plead for help from anyone able to save my degree.
Thanks
9 April, 2008 at 12:10 am
Phu Le
I support this petition.
9 April, 2008 at 12:20 am
derek holton
I am very sorry to hear the plans that USQ has to reduce the mathematics staff at that university. It is hard to see how any university deserves the name if it deliberately stops teaching one of the fundamental disciplines. The position of USQ is especially untenable in the light of the affect it will have on the education of high school maths teachers.
I urge USQ to rethink its decision and to develop rather than degradate mathematics on its campus.
9 April, 2008 at 12:41 am
David Corfield
I strongly support the petition.
David Corfield
Lecturer
University of Kent at Canterbury
9 April, 2008 at 1:08 am
Anonymous
I support this petition.
Alan Noble
9 April, 2008 at 1:30 am
Neil Strickland
I support this petition.
Professor Neil Strickland
Department of Pure Mathematics
University of Sheffield
9 April, 2008 at 1:44 am
Kyle Marshall
I suppose this petition
9 April, 2008 at 1:45 am
Scott Kensell
I support this petition
9 April, 2008 at 1:47 am
David Ridout
I support this petition strongly.
David Ridout
Postdoc
DESY Hamburg
9 April, 2008 at 2:01 am
Kylie Goldthorpe
Regional areas need a vital capacity in Maths and Science. USQ needs to rethink its funding formulae and the region’s needs for engagement in research and education.
Kylie Goldthorpe
BVSc
9 April, 2008 at 2:24 am
M. Nili Ahmadabadi
I endorse this petition.
M. Nili Ahmadabadi,
University of Yazd, Iran
9 April, 2008 at 2:55 am
Gergely Rost
I fully support the petition.
Gergely Röst,
Bolyai Institute
Univ. Szeged, Hungary
9 April, 2008 at 3:06 am
Charlie C
I strongly support this petition. This is more than a national problem; it is a problem for our civilization. Our world is undergoing vast changes — physical, cultural, and intellectual. Scientific excellence is necessary if we are to survive. Everyone must contribute.
Charles Clingen, retired
Lanham, MD USA
9 April, 2008 at 3:36 am
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
Martin Raussen
Associate Professor
Department of Mathematical Sciences
Aalborg University
Denmark
9 April, 2008 at 3:39 am
Alan Scrivner
I fully support the petition and believe that an informed public with a solid foundation in mathematics and the sciences is needed more today than at any other time in recent memory. To borrow a phrase from the show Numb3rs, “We all use math, everyday” I know I do.
Alan Scrivner
Scientist
NSWC, Corona Division
9 April, 2008 at 4:04 am
Ingrid Van Keilegom
I strongly support this petition for saving mathematics and statistics at USQ. It seems that the proposed budget cuts will severely damage the quality of studies in maths, stats and computing science, which is of course completely unacceptable.
Professor Ingrid Van Keilegom
Institute of Statistics
Université catholique de Louvain
Belgium
9 April, 2008 at 4:23 am
bengreen
I fully support this petition.
Ben Green, Professor of Mathematics, University of Cambridge, UK.
9 April, 2008 at 4:36 am
Alain Goriely
I fully endorse this petition. Cutting staff in Mathematics and Statistics at USQ would be a tragedy for students and researchers alike. No department or university would be able to come back from such a cut.
Alain Goriely
Professor of Mathematics
University of Arizona
9 April, 2008 at 4:51 am
jzleibo
I fully support this petition.
Joel Z Leibo
Brandeis University
9 April, 2008 at 5:12 am
J S Marron
The plans for USQ are very short sighted. High quality statistics and mathematics are imperative for every educational institution.
J. S. Marron
Amos Hawley Distinguished Professor of Statistics
University of North Carolina
9 April, 2008 at 5:13 am
Joseph Grotowski
I strongly support the petition. The proposed cuts promise a long-term weakening of quantitative programs offered by USQ, and fly in the face of a growing recognition of the crucial shortage of maths and stats professionals in Australia.
Dr Joseph Grotowski
Mathematics, University of Queensland
9 April, 2008 at 5:26 am
Professor David Applebaum, University of Sheffield UK
I strongly support the views expressed in the petition. I was (in an earlier employment) a member of a Maths/Stats department that was foolishly closed by short-sighted administrators and I can personally testify to the huge cost in human terms both to staff and students.
9 April, 2008 at 6:00 am
Michael Batanin
I strongly support this petition. But I also suggest that a similar petition should be written and addressed to the Australian Government. This is very common problem in Australian universities which has its root in the business model of higher education. More precisely, the bureaucrats must stop considering higher education, and especially fundamental disciplines like mathematics ,as just a sort of business which can be regulated by free market forces.
Michael Batanin,
Scott Russel Johnson Research Fellow,
Macquarie University,
Sydney, Australia.
9 April, 2008 at 6:25 am
Sarah Whitehouse
I support this petition.
Dr Sarah Whitehouse
University of Sheffield, UK
9 April, 2008 at 6:27 am
David Roberts
I cannot endorse this petition strongly enough. Consider also those universities who still have mathematics departments, but are reduced to a shadow of their former selves – don’t wait until a department is threatened with demolition to act!
David M Roberts
PhD student
University of Adelaide
Australia
9 April, 2008 at 6:38 am
Pedro Marín-Rubio
I strongly support this petition.
Dr. Pedro Marin-Rubio
University of Seville
SPAIN
9 April, 2008 at 6:57 am
Steven Miller
I support this petition.
I strongly urge the administration of USQ to reconsider all of the proposed reductions. Retrenching these subject areas is the beginning of a slippery-slope. Once gone, they will be nearly impossible to re-establish in the future, once their value has been recognised. Universities have a responsibility to promote knowledge, a responsibility that is unfulfilled by abandoning these disciplines.
Steven Miller
Post-doctoral researcher
Trinity College Dublin
9 April, 2008 at 7:30 am
David Savitt
I strongly support this petition.
David Savitt
Assistant Professor
Department of Mathematics
University of Arizona
9 April, 2008 at 7:36 am
Walter W. Piegorsch
I strongly support this petition and urge the administration at USQ to carefully reconsider its position.
As a sitting statistics chair of a US University which made the mistake of summarily disbanding its own Statistics Department over a decade ago, I can testify that the consequences of the action were wholly negative: collaborative and consulting services desperately needed to maintain the University’s scholarly standing in our modern, data-rich research era suffered almost immediately, leading to an estimated campus-wide loss of $10-20M (US) in external grant funding over the period since the department was disbanded. Recognizing this error, the University has now reconstruct the statistics program, but at significantly higher cost and effort than would have been necessary had the program remained in place. I urge USQ to avoid repeating this mistake.
9 April, 2008 at 7:36 am
Patrick Dorey
I support this petition.
Patrick Dorey
Professor, Dept. Math. Sciences, Durham University, UK
9 April, 2008 at 7:41 am
Claire Smith
This is such a short-sighted move, which does not take into account the mistakes made in other institutions at other times. Flinders University made a similar mistake a couple of years ago with Engineering, and had to redress this.
I hope USQ reconsiders its position on this.
Regards,
Professor Claire Smith, University of Newcastle
9 April, 2008 at 7:59 am
Jonathan Woolf
I strongly support this petition.
Dr. Jonathan Woolf
Dept. Math. Sciences
University of Liverpool
UK
9 April, 2008 at 8:23 am
Peter
As an Australian computer scientist with a university medal in mathematical statistics, I strongly support this petition.
Dr Peter McBurney
Department of Computer Science
University of Liverpool
UK
9 April, 2008 at 9:00 am
Hans R. Kuensch
I strongly support this petition.
Professor Hans R. Kuensch
Chair, Department of Mathematics
ETH Zurich
Switzerland
9 April, 2008 at 9:11 am
Neal Koblitz
I fully endorse this petition and support the efforts of Australian colleagues to maintain their country’s strong traditions of research and teaching in the mathematical sciences.
Neal Koblitz
Professor of Mathematics
University of Washington
Seattle, USA
9 April, 2008 at 9:37 am
Hugh Enxing
As an undergraduate student in mathematics and physics, I understand the importance of these so-called “non-service” classes. They serve as a base for which these “service” classes can stand upon. I believe that a reduction in non-applied math classes would be a mistake from which the science department could not recover.
Hugh Enxing
Boston University – Class of 2008
BA – Mathematics and Physics
University of Massachusetts-Amherst – Class of 2010
MS – Applied Mathematics
Boston, USA
9 April, 2008 at 9:44 am
William Yslas Velez
Mathematics and statistics has never been more important in society than it is now. Instead of decreasing support for mathematical studies, the university administration should be increasing the support for students interested in studying mathematics and statistics.
I srtrongly endorse this petition.
9 April, 2008 at 9:58 am
Eva Bayer-Fluckiger
I strongly support this petition.
Eva Bayer, EPFL
9 April, 2008 at 10:50 am
Tony O'Hagan
I endorse this petition. It is barely conceivable that USQ can be so short-sighted.
Mathematics and statistics are the underpinning of all the sciences, technology, finance and commerce, and are increasingly in demand to provide rigorous evidence-based decision making in medicine, government, industry and environmental regulation. It cannot be emphasised too strongly that it is totally inadequate to provide people with calculators, statistical software and a cookery-class in using them. Mathematics and statistics are academic disciplines in their own right. I have spent my lifetime learning to do better statistics, and I am still learning. I’m not an engineer, I don’t have the training, I respect the skills that professional engineers have, and I wouldn’t try to build a bridge even if you gave me “Microsoft Bridge Builder.” So why can’t university administrators and others respect and foster the hard-won skills of professional mathematicians and statisticians?
I call upon the Australian government and the administrators of USQ to reverse the dreadful decline in the training of mathematicians and statisticians in their country. Other nations are facing similar difficulties, and are trying to solve them. USQ seems instead to prefer to bury its head in the sand and wait for the tide to erase all trace of these disciplines as serious subjects of study. Shame on them!
Tony O’Hagan
Professor of Statistics
The University of Sheffield
UK
9 April, 2008 at 11:27 am
Len Schwartz
I consider the proposed cuts to be deplorable.
The USQ department is especially strong in applied
mathematics, with proven high economic value.
Australia is one of the wealthiest countries
in the world and an educated citizenry is its
greatest asset. Surely the politicians must
realize that!
Dr. Len Schwartz
Professor of Mechanical Engineering & Mathematical Sciences
University of Delaware
USA
9 April, 2008 at 11:30 am
Michael Stay
I support this petition.
Michael Stay
Mathematical physicist
Google
9 April, 2008 at 11:39 am
Edy Tri Baskoro
It is really sad to know the situation at USQ.
So, I do strongly support the petition.
Edy Tri Baskoro
Professor
Department of Mathematics ITB Indonesia, and
President of Indonesian Mathematical Society.
9 April, 2008 at 11:40 am
DongChoon Sin
I do strongly support the petition.
DongChoon (Daniel) SIN
PhD Candidate – Artificial Heart Project
Medical Engineering Representative on the BEE Student
Medical Device Domain
Institute of Health and Biomedical Innovation
Queensland University of Technology
9 April, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
Sanat Pradhan
Masters student – Department of Statistics,
Data Analyst – Social Statistics Research Group,
University of Auckland,
New Zealand
9 April, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Lola Thompson
I strongly support this petition.
Lola Thompson
Ph.D. student
Dartmouth College
9 April, 2008 at 1:03 pm
Danielle Dourlein
I strongly support this petition.
Danielle Dourlein
Undergraduate Student
Mathematics Education
University of Arizona, USA
9 April, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Anonymous
I fully support this petition.
Diane Maclagan
Associate Professor
University of Warwick
9 April, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
Jesse Liptrap
math PhD student
UC Santa Barbara
9 April, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
Jason Smith
Math student
Queensland University of technology
9 April, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Neil Trudinger
Strongly supported.
Neil Trudinger
Professor of Mathematics
Australian National University
9 April, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Michael Adena
I strongly support this petition.
We already have a severe skill shortage in quantitative and statistical thinking. Australia needs – and undergraduate and graduate USQ students need – to have the best possible teaching and learning so that these skills can be boosted.
Michael Adena, PhD AStat MACS
Director, Statistical Consultancy
Covance Pty Ltd
Canberra
9 April, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Maria de los Angeles Alfonseca Cubero
I strongly support this petition.
Maria de los Angeles Alfonseca Cubero
Department of Mathematics
North Dakota State University
USA
9 April, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Kathy Spencer
In a world of increasing technology, math and science is in demand more then ever. Not only do students deserve to have the opportunity to take higher levels of math and science, they are almost required to in order to get a job in today’s society.
Thus, I strongly support this petition.
Kathy Spencer
Pursuing a degree in Mathematics Education
University of Arizona
9 April, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Caroline Plank
I strongly support this petition. Don’t let USQ become a 3rd rate university.
9 April, 2008 at 3:00 pm
James Cranch
Even from the extremely narrow standpoint of service teaching, university mathematics needs to be self-supporting. If all a department does is service teaching, it won’t even be able to train people to be service teachers.
James Cranch
University of Sheffield
United Kingdom
9 April, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Stephen Bush
I stronly support this petition.
The solution to addressing the shortage of mathematically savvy graduates will not be found in unnecessarily cutting mathematics and statistics programs. This decision is short sighted to say the least.
Stephen Bush
Department of Mathematical Sciences
University of Technology, Sydney
9 April, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Ken Smith
From 1983 to 1986 I was a member of the “Associate Diploma in Mathematics and Computing Course Assessment Committee, Darling Downs Institute of Advanced Education, Queensland.” We were impressed by the qualifications of the staff, and several members were somewhat envious of the high quality of the computing equipment available. The proposal was unanimously approved, subject only to some small changes.
I have watched the growth of the Department over the past quarter of a century, and could scarcely believe that some administrators, more concerned with immediate bean-counting than with any long-term goals, have decided to gut the very effective and useful facility at Toowoomba.
It seems that many people are quite ignorant of the fact that correct interpretation of data requires much more than just the ability to run a bit of software on a computer. This was glaringly illustrated last year, in all the polls taken about people’s voting intentions.
Any student who had studied enough mathematical statistics to cover sampling procedures would be able to describe just what variation could be expected in averages taken froma sample of about 1,000 people from a population where 45% wanted to keep the party in power, and 55% were in favour of change.
And the variation is just what showed up in the polls. In fact, these polls would form an excellent teaching tool! Give them to students with a question “How closely does this data fit the expected variation from samples if the mood of the voters has not changed over time?”
But of course, this would be well beyond the understanding of the average
administrator.
If you have read this far, I should not need to add that I strongly support the petition.
Ken Smith
Honorary Research Consultant
Department of Mathematics
The University of Queensland
9 April, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Kevin Costello
I strongly support this petition, and hope that the students at USQ will not soon lose their opportunity to study mathematics and science.
Kevin Costello
School of Mathematics
Institute for Advanced Study
Princeton, NJ, USA
9 April, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Jasmin Uribe
I support this petition, and hope that other students as USQ will be able to study mathematics as I am doing so right now.
Jasmin Uribe
Mathematics Student
University of Arizona
9 April, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Douglas Bridges
The proposed cuts to mathematics and statistics would make USQ unworthy of the title “university” and should be abandoned forthwith.
Douglas Bridges,
Department of mathematics & Statistics,
University of Canterbury,
Christchurch, New Zealand.
9 April, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Penny Smith
I support this petition.
9 April, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Joanna Cheng
I support this petition
Joanna Cheng
PhD student
ANU, Australia
9 April, 2008 at 4:22 pm
Robert Strain
I strongly support this petition.
Robert Strain
Benjamin Peirce Assistant Professor of Mathematics
Harvard University
9 April, 2008 at 4:36 pm
robert
I support this petition, and deplore the devaluation of the mathematical and physical sciences that made it necessary
DR. R.J.A. Tough
Director, TW Research Ltd. UK.
9 April, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Anonymous
I support this petition
Nick Seow
Quantitative Analyst
IMC Pacific, Australia
9 April, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Peter deVoil
I support this petition.
I find it hard to believe that the current administration considers that burning the furniture a viable option in this winter climate.
Have some foresight!
9 April, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Anonymous
I support this petition.
9 April, 2008 at 5:07 pm
ivanmiljenovic
I support this petition.
Ivan Miljenovic
Honours student
University of Queensland, Australia
9 April, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Arizona Student
I support this petition.
9 April, 2008 at 5:11 pm
David Peterson
Shocking! To cut the staff down by over 50% is outrageous, if such cuts are truly needed then would have seen them happen gradually over time. Now as I strongly doubt they are *way* over staffed (and if they are, well that is an equally big flaw on the part of the university) to that degree then it is a travesty to push through such a huge cut in numbers as this
Anyway, in short I support this petition.
David Peterson.
University of Auckland.
9 April, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Sean Wilson
I strongly support this petition.
9 April, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Chris Brewer
Based on the information provided here, I support the aim of this petition.
9 April, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Jo Smith
Maths is one of the foundations of all learning and achievement. As someone who works in the music industry, I am constantly surprised at the close relationship between maths and music, with many of our most talented composers having a strong maths background at a tertiary level.
I urge the university administration to reconsider this decision as a “dumbing down” of universities and insufficent funding for a core subject such as maths, ultimately has a detrimental impact on the whole community.
Jo Smith
Executive Director
Australian Guild of Screen Composers
9 April, 2008 at 5:45 pm
Phil Wilson
I strongly support this petition, and deplore the USQ proposal to eliminate mathematics education at a time when mathematics, statistics, and computing are playing such a vital role in the world’s economy and at a time of great productivity and creativity in this millenia-old subject.
Dr Phil Wilson
Lecturer
University of Canterbury
New Zealand
9 April, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Gabriel Indurskis
I support this petition.
Gabriel Indurskis
Postdoctoral Fellow, Dept. of Mathematics
University of British Columbia,
Vancouver, BC, Canada
9 April, 2008 at 6:06 pm
Paul D Smith
I strongly support this petition. The decline in mathematics and statistics is alarming and widely recognised as a serious problem by government, industry and the professional bodies that rely on mathematics and statistics as enabling disciplines. The Australian Government recognises that the country has a large and growing shortage of engineers, scientists and technologists; in 2007 it significantly increased its funding for domestic students in mathematics and statistics, and next year will offer further financial incentives to students in these disciplines by further funding to reduce the student fee contribution in these disciplines. The universities are the only national institutions that can provide responsible leadership in maintaining the intellectual infrastructure in the mathematical sciences both in the provision of graduates with mathematical training for current employment needs and of well-trained mathematical scientists for teaching in schools. The role of regional universities is particularly important for the provision of high quality mathematics teachers. I call on USQ to recognise that it has a high quality mathematics department that is contributing significantly to the national goals of providing well trained graduates in the mathematical and related sciences, especially through its service teaching, and that the proposed reduction is unreasonable, unfair and contrary to the national interest.
Paul Smith
Professor of Mathematics and Head of Department,
Macquarie University
Sydney, Australia.
9 April, 2008 at 7:16 pm
dipankar
I strongly support this petition. Thanks Terry for bringing this to our attention.
Dipankar Ray
RSDE
Live Labs Research, Microsoft
Bellevue WA
9 April, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Scott Morrison
I support the petition!
Scott Morrison
Postdoctoral Researcher,
Microsoft Station Q,
University of California, Santa Barbara.
9 April, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Klaas Hartmann
Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
I strongly endorse this petition.
Klaas Hartmann
PhD Candidate, University of Canterbury (New Zealand)
9 April, 2008 at 8:18 pm
liuxiaochuan
I support this petition!
Xiaochuan Liu,
Graduate student, Nankai University (Tianjin, China)
9 April, 2008 at 8:23 pm
Anonymous
Tom LaGatta
Graduate Student
University of Arizona (Tucson, Arizona, USA)
9 April, 2008 at 8:26 pm
Carlos Chiquete
I support this petition
Carlos Chiquete
Graduate Student
Interdisciplinary Program in Applied Mathematics
University of Arizona
Tucson, Arizona USA
9 April, 2008 at 8:30 pm
Andrew Hassell
Thanks, Terry, for staying engaged with issues in the Australian mathematics community and bringing this one to such wide international attention. I just read your editorial which makes it crystal clear that reducing the number of mathematics positions at USQ as the administration proposes would be a massive diversion of resources earned by mathematics teaching into other areas. It would be generous to call this proposal shortsighted; cynical and unethical is closer to the mark. I hope that all this publicity you’re generating gets the USQ administration to rethink their proposal.
Andrew Hassell, Australian National University.
9 April, 2008 at 8:33 pm
Tony Lai
I fully support the petition. Has anyone thought of making, say, a Youtube video? Maybe it could help draw even more attention to the USQ cuts.
Tony Lai, PhD
(Not speaking for IBM)
Toronto
9 April, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Anonymous
I support this petition.
Grant Peterson
Graduate Student
University of Arizona
9 April, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Serina Diniega
I fully support this petition. The repercussions of such drastic cuts would be felt for a long while, through all areas of Australian education and industry.
graduate student, Applied Math
University of Arizona
9 April, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Casey Warmbrand
I definitely support this petition. This is unbelievable, how can you do away with the MATHEMATICS MAJOR! Wouldn’t that deter many potentially strong students from attending the University of Southern Queensland?
Casey Warmbrand
Graduate Student
Department of Mathematics
University of Arizona
9 April, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Dr Alexandra Bozhko, Perm State University, Russia
I strongly support this petition. It is important that USQ is viable department of mathematics and statistics. It has highly skilled specialists: we were lucky to collaborate with Dr S.A. Suslov this year and hope to continue this useful cooperation in future. We also consider that mathematics and statistics are required for most other areas of up-to-date science and technology.
9 April, 2008 at 9:04 pm
Ben Martin
I endorse this petition.
Ben Martin
Senior Lecturer in Mathematics
Department of Mathematics and Statistics
University of Canterbury
New Zealand
9 April, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Qiudong Wang
I strongly support this petition.
9 April, 2008 at 9:36 pm
S. Biswas
I endorse the petition.
Somenath Biswas
Professor, Dept. of Computer Sc. and Engg.
IIT Kanpur
9 April, 2008 at 10:23 pm
Charles Emerton
I strongly support this petition. I am the father of an Australian mathematician who now works in the US. I have met through him a number of other Australian mathematicians who are no longer in this country. It seems to me many leave Australia because of the lack of opportunity to work here at the top level in their fields. This proposal of USQ, and the apparently wider diversion of funds intended to strengthen science education to other purposes by administrators across universities, will just exascerbate this situation, to the severe detriment of the national interest.
9 April, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Anonymous
I STRONGLY support this petition.
Jonathan Bohn
Undergraduate Student, Mathematics
University of Wisconsin-Madison
9 April, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Winston Sweatman
I support the petition.
Winston Sweatman, Mathematician, Massey University
9 April, 2008 at 11:31 pm
Jorgen Frederiksen
I urge USQ management to find an alternative solution that will ensure the continuing success of the scientific and engineering research and teaching at USQ.
Jorgen Frederiksen, FAA
Chief Research Scientist
CSIRO
9 April, 2008 at 11:36 pm
Anonymous
I support this petition.
Danny Stevenson
Postdoc, Dept. of Mathematics,
University of Hamburg
10 April, 2008 at 12:05 am
Gordon Anderson
I too strongly support this petition.
Without research in pure mathematics itself, there can be no
real understanding transmitted to people who go on to apply it in other areas.
Math has been at the central core of all scientific progress…
Without math at its core the science program at any university would wither and die. You need the conversations between the abstract theoretical purists and the applied scientists/technologists to move forward – in science, medicine, economics, computer science.
It directly underlies the ecomnomic advancement …
all countries where there is an active market are crying out for
quantitative skills. Even in computer programming in less mathematical areas, service lectures in supporting maths need to be informed by people who have participated in pure math research – it _does_ rub off and make a practical difference to the quality of that service teaching – you cant divorce it from research.
Kudos to the math community for speaking out and protecting our freedom to think freely as a nation.
Gordon Anderson
Software Architect
Bangkok/Melbourne
10 April, 2008 at 12:17 am
Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
I support the petition.
Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
PhD student
Carnegie Mellon University
10 April, 2008 at 12:50 am
Victor Vassiliev
I strongly support the petition.
Mathematics is the base of any precise knowledge, a powerful tool of exploring the Nature and Society, which is absolutely necessary not only for exact sciences, but also for Economics, Linguistics, other humanities, and also for constructive business and industry. Knowledge and deep understanding of Mathematics is necessary for the one’s orientation in the world, ability to think logically, to find correct and optimal solutions of everyday problems. Quality of mathematical education in the country, mathematical literacy of its people, development of mathematical ideas in industry, finances and social life are major factors of its capability and independence.
Victor Vassiliev, Professor,
Steklov Mathematical Institute and Independent University of Moscow
10 April, 2008 at 12:50 am
Marco Reale
I strongly support the petition.
Universities should serve the larger community; they are not businesses.
However even looking at it from a purely financial point of view it is a very poor decision. Mathematics and Statistics are at the very foundation of both natural and social sciences. Despite a possible advantage in the very short term the consequences will be devastating later on for the other subjects. You are giving up being a university.
Yours sincerely,
Marco Reale
Mathematics and Statistics Department
University of Canterbury
10 April, 2008 at 1:11 am
minhyong kim
I support this petition.
Minhyong Kim
Professor of Pure Mathematics
University College London
10 April, 2008 at 1:16 am
William James
One of the most topical vocational areas in the world’s
economy at the moment is that of Risk Management. We saw
the difficulty that global financial institutions have had
with managing the credit risks taken on-board, and are now
in need of qualified risk managers and analysts to be able
to measure and control such risks. This will be the area of
most demand in the financial world in coming years.
One of the arguments made for only offering standard
mathematics and statistics courses, taught from standard
texts, is based on the merits of a vocational focus.
If Australian universities want to attract the students who
asipre to get positions of responsibility in this area of
finance, or other analytical posts in the financial world,
then they need (1) a quality foundation in mathematics,
statistics and computer science, and (2) an education that
provides the training in logical and systematic thinking
that comes from an education in these areas.
Students leaving high school do not have the experience to
know what they need to learn to be able to succeed in these
areas, which are attractive to them. I can tell you that a
mathematics and statistics education is essential to enter
this area, and merit is determined based on the quality of
research done by the student at an honours or post-graduate
level. I can say this as a risk manager at the AXA group,
which is the world’s #1 financial institution in funds under
management and one of only two European insurers to be rated
excellent by S&P in risk management.
You can interpret by this that there are some courses at
university that provide candidates with a rudimentary level
that comes from courses taught as if in secondary school.
The courses that provide sufficient education to be
considered in this field are the same that provide entry into
academic research.
If the USQ wants to cut research staff in mathematics and
statistics who offer non-service courses, they will prevent
their graduates from being able to enter the vocations in
highest demand in the global market. I therefore support the
text outlined in the petition above.
10 April, 2008 at 1:30 am
Chandan Singh Dalawat
I strongly support the petition. Australia has produced some of the finest young mathematicians of our time; it would be a pity if others were to be denied the chance to realise their potential.
Chandan Singh Dalawat
Harish-Chandra Research Institute
Allahabad India
10 April, 2008 at 1:33 am
Laurie Davies
I support this petition.
Laurie Davies
Professor of Mathematics,
University of Duisburg-Essen
10 April, 2008 at 2:06 am
Anonymous
I support this petition.
Masters Student, Statistics
New Zealand
10 April, 2008 at 2:56 am
Shobha Madan
I fully support this petition.
Unfortunately there is a similar situatuion in India happening, at many universities, including where Harish Chandra studied.
10 April, 2008 at 3:03 am
Anita Pelecanos
As a recent graduate from USQ, I strongly support this petition. I am one of the lucky ones who graduated before these changes could come into effect.
10 April, 2008 at 3:06 am
Shannon Starr
I strongly support this petition. Cutting research support for mathematics would severely damage the rest of the scientific community at any research institution.
10 April, 2008 at 3:30 am
Joan Pelecanos
The Mathematics Department of USQ has supported the Toowoomba Mathematics Teachers Association and the maths departments in the Darling Downs High Schools through mentoring teachers, promoting mathematics and writing questions for the local maths teams challenges. This has helped to provide a bridge for the students between high school and university.
Maths is a part of everyday life and a foundation for most courses at university and life after university. As a teacher at a high school and a parent of three successful students of maths/engineering at USQ, I wish to support this petition to retain the maths/statistics programmes at USQ.
10 April, 2008 at 3:50 am
Cameron Roberts
I strongly support this petition. As a current graduate of a dual degree in the Department of Maths and Computing at USQ I am disgusted at the actions of the university. Without this department I would not be employed and would not have received the excellent education which I draw upon everyday.
Why, at a time when the federal government is trying to encourage the sciences, are universities not increasing their emphasis on science?
This will be a terrible loss for the community, Queensland and Australia.
For me personally, this will be the end of a legacy since both my parents also received maths degrees from this department.
Cameron Roberts
Current Graduate B.Sci. (App Maths)/B.IT. (Maths & Computing)
10 April, 2008 at 4:06 am
Birgit Loch
It is sad to see mathematics and statistics positions under threat at USQ. These staff members are amongst the hardest working at the university, they are excellent teachers, they are innovators, they are internationally recognized researchers, they are free consultants across the university, they support others where they can, and they are valued colleagues and friends. They don’t blow their own trumpets, which perhaps is what has led to this situation. They are there when needed. But not for much longer. They are mathematicians and statisticians – and this country hasn’t got an oversupply of them. Hold on to them! Don’t lose their expertise.
It is sad to see the mathematics and statistics major under threat at USQ. Who will our local Toowoomba maths teachers be in the future? Education graduates with just enough maths to master the high school curriculum? To be outsmarted quickly by bright students? To be humiliated as they reach the limits of their knowledge? History teachers who are told to teach mathematics, because all students need to learn is how to write essays about famous mathematicians? The latter sadly is a true example. Why would a mathematics teacher graduate from a metropolitan Queensland university move to Toowoomba to teach mathematics, if there are plenty of positions in Brisbane?
It is sad to see an extremely talented young mathematician lose his university. He is only ten, and rightly worried about his options. Wouldn’t it be fantastic if USQ could claim to have discovered and educated the next Fields Medalist?
What about the isolated student who will no longer benefit from studying maths through USQ’s award winning distance program? What about the full time worker, who has to support a family but also wants to become a mathematician and can only do so through part time distance study? These students will have to enroll in other Australian states. What happened to Queensland – Smart State? Not so smart.
USQ is just one example, and the most recent one. As editor of the AustMS Gazette, I receive news from Australian maths departments on staff appointments and resignations. While these figures are incomplete, the number of resignations/retirements/redundancies of reporting departments has clearly outweighed the new appointments in the last 18 months and the number of maths academics is shrinking fast. To top this off, within the next few years, a large number of mathematics academics will retire, leaving behind a hole that will be difficult to fill. Of course, we can always import from other countries. This is easier than fixing a domestic problem. But at what cost.
Birgit Loch, Dipl.-Math., PhD
Editor of the AustMS Gazette
Mathematician in exile (lecturer in computing)
Department of Mathematics and Computing
University of Southern Queensland
10 April, 2008 at 4:40 am
Carl Mueller
The cuts are shortsighted. I’m sure it’s about saving money, but students will lose the opportunity to go further in math and statistics, and Australia will lose a research group.
10 April, 2008 at 4:40 am
Anonymous
In todays’ world, mathematics is an essential ingredient in many aspects of our increasingly technilogical society. The quality of mathematical education in the country is an investment (or lack thereof) in the future. Mathematics may be the `hand maiden’ of the physical sciences, but that does not mean treaating it as a second class citizen.
Jim Stasheff
Prof Emeritus of Math UNC-CH
Visiting Prof of Math, U Pennsylvania
10 April, 2008 at 4:48 am
Tevong
I support this petition.
Tevong You
undergraduate, Imperial College London
10 April, 2008 at 5:23 am
pamela
i support your petition.
in what reality when the government is trying to increase the people going into these fields, does it make sense to cut the programme?
though (personally) not a fan of math, i believe such opportunities should still be available for up and coming students – such as my gal.
pchurchman
10 April, 2008 at 5:52 am
DINESH THAKUR
I strongly support this petition.
Dinesh Thakur
Professor of Mathematics
University of Arizona
Member, Institute for Advanced Study, Princeton
10 April, 2008 at 6:50 am
Joseph Neisendorfer
I support this petition and am filled with despair by low level of the USQ administration’s decision making process. As the former chairman of the University of Rochester mathematics department, I have seen this sort of thing before. Fortunately, it was reversed in our case, but not before much damage was done to the reputation of the university. In our case, the decision to cut the size of the mathematics department was universally condemned by mathematicians, physicists, chemists, economists, biologists, and other scholars. In the calculus of such cuts, the administration seems to have blinders on and to not have any idea of the collateral damage which their narrow minded decisions cause. The administration has no conception of the needs of students and other disciplines for excellence in mathematics. The Chinese have a saying: “The fish rots from the head.”
Joseph Neisendorfer
Professor Emeritus of Mathematics
University of Rochester
10 April, 2008 at 6:53 am
Anonymoses
I strongly support this petition. This base utilitarian view of education is becoming more widespread amongst university administrators but does not seem to be so common amongst staff and students (customers).
I have a personal interest in mathematics faculties surviving. However, I would support such a petition for other disciplines whose intrinsic value is not reflected in the ‘metrics’ employed by administrators.
A university is not a metric space.
Kevin Jennings
Department of Mathematics
St Patrick’s College of Education
Ireland
10 April, 2008 at 7:29 am
Nancy Reid
I strongly support the petition.
10 April, 2008 at 7:34 am
Edward H. Alexander
The University of Rochester tried this a while back and found that serious science students would not come to a university without a mathematics department of quality to support them. This is dumb!
10 April, 2008 at 8:33 am
Dogan Comez
It is very unfortunate that the administration at USQ has made a very shortsighted decision which should be reversed. That is why, I endorse the petition as stated and urge the USQ administration to reconsider their decision.
10 April, 2008 at 8:59 am
M. B. Rao
Mathematics is the key behind every advancement in science and technology. The decision taken by the university is short-sighted.
M B Rao
Center for Genome Information
University of Cincinnati
10 April, 2008 at 9:01 am
Angie Hodge
I strongly support this petition.
North Dakota State University mathematics
10 April, 2008 at 9:02 am
Cristina Popovici
I strongly support this petition.
Cristina Popovici
Department of Mathematics
North Dakota State University
Fargo, USA
10 April, 2008 at 9:17 am
Steve Wheaton
While many universities are currently being forced to implement cuts in programs, these proposed cuts seem to be extreme. There must be some compromise that can be worked out.
10 April, 2008 at 9:43 am
Nathan Carlson
I strongly support this petition.
Nathan Carlson
Department of Mathematics
University of Arizona
Tucson, US
10 April, 2008 at 10:06 am
Marina Logares
I strongly support this petition.
Dr. Marina Logares
Departamento de Matematica Pura
Facultade de Ciencias
Rua do Campo Alegre 687
4169-007 Porto
Portugal
10 April, 2008 at 10:27 am
Nick Wormald
There are long and complex arguments as to why funding for mathematics and statistics needed to be increased in Australia, and various reasons that it is difficult to get the government to see this as a priority. Finally, the government was convinced, and last year it decided to increase the level of funding for mathematics and the sciences. Why can’t all University administrators see that this is an exceptional situation and act accordingly?
With or without government endorsement there are many reasons to increase awareness of and ability at mathematics in University students. I strongly support this petition.
Nick Wormald
Canada Research Chair in Combinatorics and Optimization
University of Waterloo
10 April, 2008 at 10:38 am
Chris Bergevin
Would be a shame to see a math program go. I spent my junior year in high school as an exchange student in Brisbane and was extremely impressed by the degree of mathematical/quantitative sophistication in Australian students (and maybe the great calculus teacher I had over there was a reason why I ended up pursuing further study of mathematics). Such well prepared students should have as many options as possible available to them for pursuing higher education in math. Plus, some of the great (mathematical modeling) minds in my field (auditory science) have Australian roots.
Chris Bergevin
Post-doc in Math. Dept. at University of Arizona
10 April, 2008 at 10:47 am
Friedrich Littmann
I strongly support this petition.
Friedrich Littmann
Department of Mathematics
North Dakota State University
10 April, 2008 at 11:22 am
Marian Bocea
I strongly support this petition.
Marian Bocea
Department of Mathematics
North Dakota State University
Fargo, USA
10 April, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Youlian Simidjiyski
Technical courses alone are insufficient preparation for serious work in the fields of math and science. Such courses leave students inflexible and unprepared to adapt to the rapid advancements in these fields. I strongly support this petition.
Youlian Simidjiyski
Undergraduate Student
University of Chicago
10 April, 2008 at 12:49 pm
Jorge Alberto Calvo
It is difficult to imagine that the elimination of a real mathematics program could be called “Realising our Potential.“ I vigorously support your petition.
Jorge Alberto Calvo
Associate Professor of Mathematics
Ave Maria University
10 April, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Davis Cope
I strongly agree with this petition. Restricting a mathematics
program to service courses means preparing students for the
past, not the future.
Davis Cope
Associate Professor
Mathematics
North Dakota State University
10 April, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Omer Angel
I strongly agree with this petition.
Omer Angel
Universities of Toronto and British Columbia
10 April, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Bruce Bayly
At a time when Maths is becoming more and more intertwined with all other activities (research, teaching, outside service) conducted by the University, it’s extremely counterproductive for a University to cut its central mathematics department.
10 April, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Sean Sather-Wagstaff
I strongly support this petition.
Sean Sather-Wagstaff
Department of Mathematics
North Dakota State University
Fargo, USA
10 April, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Pierre Arnoux
I strongly support the petition
10 April, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Aleksandar Petrov
To be honest, it is the job of the Australian government to decide. If they want a population of badly educated people then sure they can cancel classes altogether. If they feel that they can maintain a strong economy without well-educated people in the sciences then sure cancel classes.
All I know is that if this was happening in my country I would not want it. Therefore I support the current petition.
Alex Petrov
Department of Mathematics
University of Arizona
Tucson, USA
10 April, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Justin Scott
We recently advertised a bioinformatics position for which none of the 36 applicants had the required statistical experience. If USQ’s proposed changes were implemented and repeated by other universities such an example would become widespread to the detriment of Australian research and the community.
Justin Scott
Biostatistican
Queensland Institute of Medical Research
10 April, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Briony Carey
I strongly support this petition.
As a USQ student affected by the proposed maths cuts I would also like to thank everyone for their support. I can not see how the proposed science cuts can do any good for current students, future students, staff, our community and our country as a whole. I just hope that these drastic measures are not repeated in other universities of Australia.
We need intelligent, educated people for the survival of our economy.
Thankyou.
Briony Carey
USQ Student
Applied Mathematics/Finance
10 April, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Margaret Carey
I strongly support this petition for a number of reasons.
Firstly, I am a parent of a high achieving student who attends USQ and whom will be directly affected by these cuts. USQ has always provided quality education, however, without maths and science there will be limited opportunities for high achieving students to remain in the district for tertiary studies. My other daughter may now need to attend University in Brisbane which is much more expensive.
Secondly, as a teacher, I am concerned that education has become mere business rather than a service to the community. Science and mathematics are the building blocks of our society. We need to encourage, not discourage, students in these areas of study. What will be next? The removal of Math C from the secondary curriculum because classes are small?
Margaret Carey
Concerned Parent
Teacher
10 April, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Alana Moore
PhD Student
Department of Mathematics and Statistics
University of Melbourne
10 April, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Ian Gomm
I support this petition.
I would like to think it will be seen as a message to other universities. There is a real depth of feeling and concern regarding the current state of support for mathematics and statistics from university administrators. Governments are beginning to acknowledge past mistakes, lets all hope it is not too little too late.
Ian Gomm
School of Computer Science and Mathematics
Victoria University
10 April, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Philip Cheifetz
I strongly support this petition.
10 April, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Anonymous
I support this petition as an applied mathematics student.
The situation doesnt just happen at USQ but also in my country-Vietnam- where the funding for maths is nearly neglected.
Bao Nguyen
Department of Mathematics
National University of Singapore
10 April, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Hilary Yovich
I strongly support this petition as a Maths Teacher, as a mother and grandmother of gifted children, and as a member of the Australian Community who has been horrified at the down-grading of education in this country over the past decade.
10 April, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Daniel Groves
I am another ex-patriate Australian mathematician who fully
supports this petition.
Daniel Groves
Assistant Professor
University of Illinois at Chicago
10 April, 2008 at 8:03 pm
Kenneth Millett
I support this petition and urge the consideration of an even stronger commitment of resources to maths, statistics and computing in preparation of students to properly
address todays challenges.
Kenneth Millett
Professor of Mathematics
University of California, Santa Barbara
10 April, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Graham Woods
I strongly support this petition. Degrading eduation of maths, statistics and computing also effects many other professional programs like Engineering.
Graham Woods
Head of Electrical & Computer Engineering
James Cook University
10 April, 2008 at 9:05 pm
David Booth
I strongly support this petition. Strong programs in the mathematical sciences are essential to progress.
David Booth, PhD
Professor of Statistics
M&IS Dept.
Kent State University
10 April, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Janese Lloyd
I strongly support this petition. As a graduate of Mathematics and Statistics, I have worked in industry and am now teaching Mathematics to senior secondary students. Major cuts such as these will directly impact on the education graduates from USQ. There is a desperate need for quality teachers in Mathematics and the sciences, teachers who need a degree in Mathematics or Science as well as education. Maintain the current programs so that the situation doesn’t become even worse for education.
10 April, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Grant King
I strongly support this petition as a graduate of the University of Wollongong
10 April, 2008 at 11:28 pm
Alan Mackey
I started my undergraduate career as an economics major before discovering that mathematics was, frankly, far deeper and more engaging than economics or any of my other courses. It’s sad that any student would be deprived of the diversity of curriculum or chance to experience mathematics that I had.
Alan Mackey
Undergraduate math major
The University of Arizona
11 April, 2008 at 1:04 am
Chris Parfitt
I strongly support this petition. USQ should be embarrassed to be taking these steps which would effectively eliminate future skilled math graduates from the workforce, in a time when there is skill shortages and the drastic need for capable staff in these fields.
I graduated last year from one of the near by universities and would be devestated if this was to be happening there as the amount of people effected by these actions is immense.
I currently work in an organisation where almost all of the students have graduated from a Mathematics degree from a tertiary organisation, many being brought from afar as there is simply too few to fill the vacancies in southern Queensland, so why contribute further to there being less?
Some of the staff I work with attended USQ and to think that some of these people 5 years from now won’t have the opportunities they had based on an institutions incompetence is appalling.
Lets hope it is not to late for the decision to be reversed.
Chris Parfitt
Math Graduate
QUT
11 April, 2008 at 1:28 am
Bruce Bartlett
I also strongly support this petition. In my view it represents extremely narrow-minded and short-term thinking. I come from a country, South Africa, where similar trends occur, and it’s important the mathematical community makes a united front and strong case for their existence.
11 April, 2008 at 1:43 am
Adam Chmaj
I strongly support the petition.
Adam Chmaj
Assistant Professor
Warsaw University of Technology
Poland
11 April, 2008 at 1:56 am
Florin Panaite
I endorse this petition.
Florin Panaite,
Institute of Mathematics of the Romanian Academy
11 April, 2008 at 2:27 am
Tamyka Bell
The comments already posted show exactly what I expected – that Australian mathematicians, statisticians and physicists are respected and sought after all over the world. After graduation, the majority of my physics and maths friends took up positions overseas, because our departments were already so small and underfunded, and overseas offers were so lucrative. Why is it that foreign countries value our education more than Australia does?
I shudder to think of a future where all Government policy is decided upon by graduates who took a ‘service course’ in statistics. I’ve seen these service courses – I’ve tutored them – and they achieve little more than to give their students a false sense of security about the data they attempt to interpret.
I am blessed to work in a private organisation with a group of talented mathematicians and statisticians who are full of ideas and always looking for new approaches to solve problems. I previously worked in a multidisciplinary research group focussing on human motor control. We outshone other groups in our department – because of the physical scientists.
Maths and stats are crucial to the development of scientific research in any institution. And all research (yes, including arts and humanities) should be scientific. If USQ administration wants to close down its maths and computing department, it may as well close the entire university.
Don’t let this happen.
Tamyka Bell
BSc (Hons I) (Physics) 2001
University of Queensland
11 April, 2008 at 2:36 am
Ross Gundry
As a recent Mathematics graduate from USQ, I endorse this petition.
Without the support of the USQ Maths and Computing faculty staff, I would not be in position I am today, both professionally and personally.
To even contemplate taking such an action is to steal opportunity away from the people of South East Qld. I offer my thoughts and support to all those staff and students affected by this incertain times.
Ross Gundry
B.Sci – Applied Mathematics
University of Southern Queensland
(2005)
11 April, 2008 at 3:41 am
Jessica Savage
I strongly support this petition.
Jessica Savage
B.Sci Computer Science
James Cook University
11 April, 2008 at 3:48 am
Ofer Hadas
I do not know what the situation is at the USQ that makes them decide to eliminate the study of Mathematics from their curriculum and to effectively close the Mathematics department. It might be the right thing for them. However if they do they should also rename themselves to anything that does not include the word “University” so as not to mislead potential “customers”.
11 April, 2008 at 4:31 am
John Head
I support this petition.
John Head
BSc (Hons), Monash University
PhD student, Albert Einstein Institute, Germany
11 April, 2008 at 6:24 am
R. Robinson
I strongly support this petition. Don’t lower the standards and reputation of USQ by destroying it’s mathematics and science departments. It would be a damaging and irreversible mistake.
R.Robinson
BEng(Hons) Mechanical Engineering
University of Birmingham
United Kingdom
11 April, 2008 at 8:29 am
S. G. Rajeev
I have no particular connection to Australia, but I have marveled at the remarkable products of the Australian education such as Tao and Baxter. Only a week ago I studied excellent papers on Painleve transcendents from a Professor at Sydney. Australian mathematics is remarkably influential.
I am therefore especially shocked at the attack on science and mathematics at USQ. Why destroy a system that has had such spectacular successes? Why deny opportunity to people of Southern Qunnesland? At a time when mathematical knowledge is so crucial to economic success, mathematical education should be expanded, not shrunk.
11 April, 2008 at 8:57 am
William Gasarch
I SUPPORT the petition.
Anything else I could say in support of it has been said
by Terry Tao and the other commenters.
11 April, 2008 at 9:40 am
Adonis Yatchew
From the perspective of an econometrician, I am deeply disappointed in both the direction and the magnitude of the proposed changes. In a world where data and processing power are growing exponentially, the need for deep comprehension of how these data might be understood grows, rather than diminishes.
I have twice visited the School of Mathematical Sciences at ANU and have benefitted greatly through the association. Indeed, the impact of Australian statistics on econometrics has been enormous.
Adonis Yatchew
Professor and Associate Chair for Graduate Studies
University of Toronto
Editor-in-Chief, The Energy Journal
11 April, 2008 at 10:16 am
Martin Burda
I support this petition.
Martin Burda
Assistant Professor
University of Toronto
11 April, 2008 at 11:49 am
Hochul K. Lee
I support support this petition.
Hochul K. Lee
Graduate Student
San Diego State
11 April, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Charles Pearce
The Federal Government has recognised the key role played by the mathematical sciences and has provided additional monies to Australian universities specifically to help this area. How can universities
expect government to take them seriously when these monies are siphoned off to other areas and mathematics is downgraded?
Professor Charles Pearce
Elder Chair of Mathematics
The University of Adelaide
11 April, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Robert Block
It seems inconceivable to me that any university would downgrade its math and science concentrations today when these two areas are of vital importance to any technological impact on our future.
Professor Emeritus & Co-Director of the Gaerttner LINAC Laboratory
Rensslaer Polytechnic Institute
Troy, New York, USA
11 April, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Clive W.J. Granger
Naturally I support the petition having obtained a first in mathematics and a Ph.D. in statistics. Taking a wider view it could be proposed that India and China can produce plenty of good mathematicians and statisticians between them (and have done so in the past) who could fill many of the needs of Queensland for school teaching.
However, there is an enormous need for applied mathematicians and statisticians in a growing number of fields including meteorology, oceanography, finance, engineering, and control theory as well as all aspects of economics, politics and even sociology. I believe experience shows that home-produced mathematicians are generally superior in these fields which are of increasing importance.
Professor Emeritus, Nobel Laureate – 2003 Prize for Economics
11 April, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Steve Lawford
I fully support this petition.
Department of Economics and Econometrics
ENAC, Toulouse, France
11 April, 2008 at 2:19 pm
David Scullen
Sadly, Australia trails a long way behind many other developed countries in its implementation of mathematics and statistics to provide better methods for decision making (and hence the making of better decisions) particularly in its government, but also in business and industry. This is largely due to a poor standard of numerical literacy in the population overall. The key to increasing that standard lies in the development of mathematics and statistics at ALL levels of education, including higher level research.
David Scullen
Senior Operational Performance Analyst
South Australian Ambulance Service
11 April, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Helen Hypatia Bayly
(continued from earlier comment):
Professor Tao of UCLA is correct that the USQ’s administration demonstrates an “abdication of responsibility” in its duties to its students.
The administration betrays an appalling lack of knowledge of the role of mathamatics in all of life, in every field of study, research, human progress and civilization. The administrators have indeed committed a wholesale abdication of their duty to educate students, and at USQ they have degraded the whole idea of a university education.
(As another signer suggested, if the planned harmful changes occur, the word “university”should be removed from the name of the campus and its role).
The USQ administration’s PLAN as stated (perhaps they didn’t? couldn’t? “do the math” and see the consequences?) has already:
i) excluded USQ’s students from information and informed decision-making ; and
ii) mapped a future to deprive USQ’s students and otherAustralians of their rightful heritage to all fields of study and work, worldwide as well as Australia-wide.
The administration’s recent actions (incl. at Flinders) suggest that they listen to noone and to no authority. Therefore I hope Australians from the Prime Minister upward can convince USQ’s administration of the many imaginative alternatives that could help, not hinder, USQ and its faculty and students.
Whilst this administration’s eyes are so full of dollar signs, perhaps it could re-learn that education itself is an investment for the future! All Aussies NEED mathematics, in every aspect of life, to succeed individually and as a nation: what did the USQ administrators miss when they were supposed to learn this simple lesson?
Bravo to the petition, which I support absolutely.
Helen Hypatia Bayly (born, raised in Sydney NSW): retired educator “exciting young minds about science”;
Astronomer; S Az Regional Science and Engineering Fair/judge; SciEnTec k-12, Board of Directors, Tucson AZ; co-founder/past president, New York Civil Liberties Union-Capital Region, Albany NY; past president, League of Women Voters, Rensselaer County, NY.
11 April, 2008 at 8:09 pm
Brenton R Clarke
I endorse the petition. The idea that service courses in mathematics and statistics can be sustained without a viable mathematics and statistics staffing coupled with a maths and statistics programme is ill conceived. Maybe resources will come to mathematics in education, to train teachers, but I fear the mathematics and statistics needed to be taught to train students in other university disciplines will eventually be diminished in any institution that proceeds along the path being considered for the USQ.
11 April, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Anonymous
I would like to express my strong support for this petition.
How can anyone conceive that the basis of so many disciplines can be cut down without consequence? Universities are not businesses, stop treating them as such.
M. Wawrzyczny
B. Eng (Elec)
University of Sydney
11 April, 2008 at 9:24 pm
Izabella Laba
I strongly support the petition.
Izabella Laba
Professor of Mathematics
University of British Columbia
11 April, 2008 at 11:06 pm
L R Fox
This is unbelievable, on one hand the government pours money and rhetoric into maths and science education and on the other universities close their maths departments.
I fully support the petition
11 April, 2008 at 11:15 pm
F. B. Antaw
I fully support the petition
F Antaw
Year 11
QASMT
Toowong
Brisbane
11 April, 2008 at 11:48 pm
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
Romalynn Oliynyk, M.Sc. (University of Alberta)
Concerned parent in Melbourne, Australia
12 April, 2008 at 12:02 am
Stephen Braithwaite
I strongly support this petition.
12 April, 2008 at 12:12 am
Jo Freitag
I strongly support the petition.
Jo Freitag
Gifted Resources
Melbourne
12 April, 2008 at 12:54 am
José Manuel Bayod
I strongly support this petition.
12 April, 2008 at 1:57 am
Christina G
I support this petition.
Christina Geyer
Bayesian Statistician
Germany
12 April, 2008 at 2:07 am
Gerd Schmalz
I strongly support this petition.
Gerd Schmalz
University of New England
12 April, 2008 at 3:55 am
Janice Barton
I Strongly Support this petition!!!!!!!!!!
12 April, 2008 at 5:10 am
Benson Farb
I strongly Support this Petition.
Benson Farb
Professor of Mathematics
University of Chicago
12 April, 2008 at 5:21 am
Rebecca Parsons
I strongly support this petition.
Rebecca Parsons
Perth
12 April, 2008 at 5:22 am
Claire Delides
I strongly endorse this petition. It is sad to see the demise of such important areas where there should be great support. Quite a few universities appear to have declining departments in such areas, it is very unfortunate.
Claire Delides
Undergraduate, Physics, Maths & Stats
Murdoch University
12 April, 2008 at 5:43 am
Pacha Nambi
I strongly support the petition.
In India the central government is pouring money to start new institutions of higher education (such as new IITs). If the university departments in Australia are being closed or their staff strength is drastically cut by short sighted administrators, then may be students in Australia should study in India or come to USA. Bright and motivated students will go where there is opportunity.
Pacha Nambi
Instructor
Seattle Central Community College
Seattle, WA USA
12 April, 2008 at 6:01 am
Anonymous
I endorse the petition.
K. Johnson
ANU
12 April, 2008 at 6:02 am
Nadia Bloom
As the mother of a student currently studying Advanced Maths at the University of Sydney, I strongly support this petition.
12 April, 2008 at 6:03 am
Jessica Bloom
I am currently studying Advanced Maths at the University of Sydney and I very strongly support this petition!
12 April, 2008 at 6:05 am
Anita Hagerup
I support this petition
Oslo, Norway
12 April, 2008 at 6:21 am
Philip de Guzman
Philip H. de Guzman
I strongly endorse this petition.
Calgary, Alberta
12 April, 2008 at 7:04 am
Colin James Sutherland
Senior Lecturer
London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine
Cuts in Maths and Stats do not add up.
Decimating Plant Sciences for the sake of a few Molecular Biologists (I am one) is extremely foolhardy in a world that is suddenly realising that it has once again failed to provide food security for the majority of humanity.
London, UK.
12 April, 2008 at 8:50 am
Morgan Sherman
California State University, Channel Islands
Camarillo, CA
12 April, 2008 at 9:07 am
Jacob Breckenridge
I support this petition.
Jacob Breckenridge
Undergraduate Math Major
University of Arizona
12 April, 2008 at 9:26 am
Anonymous
I support this petition
L. Garnaat
Undergraduate Math and Economics Major
University of Arizona
12 April, 2008 at 9:27 am
Robert Sloan
I strongly support this Petition
Robert H. Sloan
Professor and Acting Head
Department of Computer Science
University of Illinois at Chicago
12 April, 2008 at 10:06 am
Kevin Karplus
Maybe it would be good for the USA if the Australians stopped teaching higher math—it would make some of our weaker students look better. Of course, we’d have to get India, China, Japan, Singapore, Europe, … to stop also, which seems unlikely.
I suppose that if USQ wants to turn into a trade school, they can, but they should stop using “University” in their name then, unless they intend it as a joke, like McDonald’s “Hamburger University”.
Kevin Karplus
Professor of Biomolecular Engineering
University of California, Santa Cruz
12 April, 2008 at 10:18 am
Kevin K. Lin
I strongly support this petition.
Kevin Lin
Assistant Professor of Mathematics
The University of Arizona
12 April, 2008 at 10:36 am
Tara L Smith
I strongly support this petition.
Tara L Smith, Ph.D
Professor and Undergraduate Program Director
Department of Mathematical Sciences
University of Cincinnati
12 April, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Brendan F
I support this petition.
12 April, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Carolyn K.
I strongly support this petition. Thanks to all who are standing up for our students.
Carolyn K.
Founder and Director
Hoagies’ Gifted Education Page
http://www.hoagiesgifted.org
12 April, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Jo C.
I strongly support this petition.
12 April, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Amy Henderson
I support the petition and quality education for all students.
Amy Henderson, Ph.D.
12 April, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Laura Kim
I support this petition.
Laura Kim
Electronics Engineer
Jet Propulsion Labs
12 April, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Cindy Duncan
Quality math instruction is a crucial part of higher education. I strongly support this petition
12 April, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Liz Cademy Pfeffer
I am shocked that a university would do away with all higher maths. I strongly support this petition.
Liz Cademy Pfeffer
MBA, Finance
Professional Polymath
12 April, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Ingrid McCarthy
I strongly support this petition and the future options for our brightest and best maths and science students.
Ingrid McCarthy
Secondary Science and Maths Teacher
12 April, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Anonymous
I support the petition and urge the University Administration to seek a compromise solution with members of the mathematics and computing department.
Colin Carmichael
PhD Student
University of New England
Australia
12 April, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Anonymous
As an engineering student at USQ and working as a trainee engineer, I am fully aware of the need to teach students more than just how to manipulate equations. Understanding the fundamental principles underlying mathematical concepts are essential to enabling an engineer to apply these to new situations.
Closing the mathematics department at USQ will have long term detrimental consquences for Australia.
Danielle
USQ Bachelor of Engineering student.
12 April, 2008 at 8:37 pm
Sam Berner
I strongly support the petition not to close down any theoretical departments at the USQ. The world has gotten to where it is through theory first and foremost, since without theory there is no ground for practice. Australian educational institutions market themselves as some of the best in the world? Without theory? How groundless!!!
First it was humanities, so we have no philosophy to base theory on, nor moral value systems, nor history to learn about our mistakes. Now we are closing the next tier in the thinking process. Before we know, we will have reverted to producing trades people. Why bother? Call it Toowoomba’s Other TAFE.
12 April, 2008 at 8:47 pm
Michael
I strongly support this petition as stated. This kind of thing is ridiculous and will seriously detract from the quality of degrees offered at the University of Southern Queensland. How can you possibly get taught to a high level in specific areas if these specialised areas are closed?! If this happens perhaps the University can also reflect this is the course costs!
Michael
USQ Bachelor of Engineering Technology Student
12 April, 2008 at 8:48 pm
Nicole Tobin-Donnelly
I strongly support this petition. As an ex-USQ student of music, and my husband and I both ex-JCU Commerce graduates, and my sister completing Maths honours at JCU, mathematics is very high on our list of probable studies for our children. I shudder to think they won’t have these opportunities.
12 April, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Russell Wills
I strongly support this petition. I am an engineering graduate from USQ, a course which relies heavily on mathematics and computing.
Sam Berner’s earlier comment is valid. Without maths, the USQ might as well call itself a TAFE.
12 April, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Dr Kieran James
I strongly support rthe petition. May I add that the university should support conference funding and casual markers rather than flagpoles and windmills. We should prevent the university degenerating back to TAFE status.
12 April, 2008 at 10:18 pm
Anonymous
Revd Nikki Coleman
I stongly support this petition. To do something like this in the name of economic rationalism is neither economic nor rational, in the long term.
12 April, 2008 at 10:19 pm
C.J.Cheers
As a student at USQ affected by these cuts, (B.Sc. – Chemistry) I strongly support this petition and all efforts to effect change at USQ. The sciences are at the back bone of Australia’s future and to cut programs as a consequence of the mismanagement of the universities finances is a travesty of justice.
12 April, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Ian Wanless
Mathematics, and mathematics teaching is in crisis in Australia,
a fact that the government has belatedly recognised.
A university that does not offer mathematics as a discipline in
its own right does not deserve to be called a university. Many
other disciplines rely on the strength of the maths department,
so this is a very short sighted move.
12 April, 2008 at 11:21 pm
Eliot Cline
I strongly support this petition.
Eliot Cline
Student, Graduate Diploma of Mathematics, USQ
12 April, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Paul Millers
What has maths ever done for society?
Not very much, according to the average administrator!
Wake up USQ administration and all the other economic rationalists who think our society (and planet) will be better off with a reduction in our mathematics and science abilities. Maths and science disciplines are all the corner stones for the progression of humanity. It’s a very near sighted approach that pays all the wrong dividends in the future.
A contemptible decision to the detriment of humanity!
13 April, 2008 at 12:01 am
Robyn Owens
I support this petition – it is hard to imagine any discipline that can not and does not benefit from the rigour and abstraction that a mathematical training provides.
Robyn Owens
Pro Vice-Chancellor (Research & Research Training)
UWA
13 April, 2008 at 1:08 am
Geoff A
As a graduate of USQ it is extremely disappointing that the management of USQ could consider a cut to fundamental areas so vital to all the sciences. They should feel ashamed of what they are doing to such a fine institution. I strongly support this petition!!
13 April, 2008 at 2:35 am
Rachael Ashton-Vowels
As a graduate of several universities and a supporter of the continued need for innovation in this country, I am dismayed that a university would even consider shutting down this department.
Rachael Ashton-Vowels
13 April, 2008 at 2:54 am
Shaun Clarke
AS a grad student at USQ, I find this quite disturbing and strongly support the petition.
Shaun Clarke
Orc Software.
13 April, 2008 at 3:15 am
Laureen Barnard
As a former engineer, and now a parent and teacher of mathematics, I fully support this petition for the reasons so eloquently outlined en masse above.
Tell us USQ…Where will our kids go? What light lies at the end of the tunnel for the few that excel in the mathematics fields? What choices will they have? Why don’t you want them?
Such a nearsighted decision USQ. May you see sense before it is too late.
Laureen Barnard
Teacher, B.S.C.
13 April, 2008 at 3:53 am
Julio Brau
My name is Julio Brau and I’m studying a masters at Universite Bordeaux 1 in Bordeaux, France. I completely agree and support what is stated in the above text. I hope an agreement is reached.
13 April, 2008 at 4:19 am
Cameron Love
As a graduate student from USQ and now Maths/Science I strongly support this petition.
Cameron Love, B. Sc, B. Ed
Teacher
Toowoomba State High School
13 April, 2008 at 4:20 am
Jaweed Saleem
Hi,
My name is Jaweed Saleem. I support this petition fully.
13 April, 2008 at 4:42 am
Christine McDonald
As an academic in the Department of Mathematics and Computing at USQ and the mother of an undergraduate student in his first year of a mathematics/statistics major at USQ, I strongly support this petition. I wish to thank everyone for their continuing support.
Christine McDonald
13 April, 2008 at 5:40 am
Michael Stephen Robertson
I have been studying mathematics throuhout the past 20 years. It has been very difficult for me to obtain a degree in Mathematics as I suffer from chronic schizophrenia.
Obtaining my degree in mathematics and statistics at USQ is very important to me for one main reason: The study of mathematics has a therapeutic affect on my illness … without my studies I would most probably be hospitalised. Mathematics is my only true interest!!
Also … I have completed one 300 level unit in mathematics at USQ.
It would be a real shame for me personally if I were forced to not continue.
For all involved in the discipine of mathematics at USQ in general … it would be a disaster if mathematics could not be studied at a higher level.
I strongly support this petition.
Michael Robertson
13 April, 2008 at 6:01 am
Amy Saflar
I support this petition.
Amy Saflar, MSW
San Diego State University
13 April, 2008 at 6:03 am
Rowland Wicks
I had the pleasure to do maths and computing on campus at USQ – the staff were great. I am now studying Engineering. My lecturer sent an email out advising of this debacle, otherwise the external student body would not even be aware of this situation – probably the intent , pull the wool over everyones eyes.
Well at least we are not all brain dead like the “people” of the USQ Administration who made this proposal. I imagine they could not pass
grade 3 maths, let alone obtain a maths or science degree. Probably
professional jealousy. They have risen to the level of their incompetence.
I am appalled.
13 April, 2008 at 6:42 am
Jeremy Liew
I support the text of this petition. As an investor in early stage technology companies, I see first hand every day the importance of a sound grounding in mathematics, statistics and the sciences as a driver of innovation. If Australia is to become an economy of knowledge workers, all universities will need to provide high quality advanced instruction to its students.
Jeremy Liew
General Partner
Ligthspeed Venture Partners
Australian International Mathematics Olympiad Team 1988
13 April, 2008 at 6:59 am
Patricia Cretchley
As one of the academics in the Dept at USQ, I express support for this petition, and our shock at the suddenness and severity of this proposal made just four weeks ago.
I feel for our beloved USQ. It is one of many universities in Australia facing tough questions financially.
But the current Proposal is not going to serve the needs of the Faculty, the University, its Students, our Community, or the Nation in the best way possible.
And the planned dependence on income generated by our service teaching is dangerous – a real threat to the future viability of the Faculty.
I urge USQ management to work with members of our Dept on constructive solutions financially and academically. Our academics have creative and well-informed proposals that have not been invited or considered.
And our very serious questions about Faculty funding figures and models need answering before revitalisation can proceed. If these concerns are not addressed, USQ faces the consequences:
* loss of the confidence, commitment, and contribution of some of its most dedicated academics;
* degraded teaching in areas that enable and enrich studies and research in all our disciplines.
* loss of highly skilled and very badly needed graduates to the region and the nation.
We look forward to working with USQ’s leaders to find the best ways possible to realise academic and research potential across ALL the areas we serve.
Let us move forward together, not divided.
Pat
13 April, 2008 at 7:11 am
Robert Chew
I strongly support this petition.
13 April, 2008 at 7:35 am
Mary Rees
I strongly support this petition.
13 April, 2008 at 9:16 am
Todd Oliynyk
I strongly support this petition. The decision underscores a lack of foresight by the administration at USQ. The importance of mathematics will only increase as our world and economy become ever more dependent on technological innovation.
Todd Oliynyk
Lecturer in Mathematics
School of Mathematical Sciences
Monash University
13 April, 2008 at 9:29 am
Vanesa Magar
I strongly support this petition
13 April, 2008 at 10:31 am
Nicholas Ercolani
I support this petition.
Nicholas M. Ercolani
Professor of Mathematics
University of Arizona
13 April, 2008 at 10:58 am
Ian Eddington
I support the petetion. A strong mathematics presence at USQ is essential to the success of the University’s stated interest insustainable development and climate change research.
13 April, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Thang Huynh
I strongly endorse this petition
13 April, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Kunal Sharma
I strongly suggest to the USQ council and administration please don’t take this action closing maths dept it will affect staff and student cross the world who are completing their degree or already have. If I knew this was the situation for our and USQ’s future I would rather enroll with University of Queensland St Lucia casmpus.
I support this petetion.
13 April, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Tiana Hegarty
I strongly support this petition. As a student of USQ I would not have been able to grasp the content taught without extra support offered outside tutorial hours by dedicated staff. I believe it is vital in mathematics for staff to be able to assist students outside work hours rather than be overloaded with work. If I did not have the help of mathematics staff at USQ I would not be able to reach my final goal of becoming a mathematics teacher and passing on their knowledge. I hope that a compromise is met that enables USQ to keep their dedicated academics in order for there to remain a high quality of teaching and learning.
13 April, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Cameron McDonald
As a first year undergraduate student in the mathematics/statistics major at USQ, I strongly support this petition. With the national shortage in skilled mathematicians and statisticians, USQ has a vital role to play in educating my generation to take up the challenges of the future. Let’s hope that the administration at USQ decide to support our local community by continuing to provide a strong presence in mathematics education.
Cameron McDonald
13 April, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Jessica Andreatta
I strongly support this petition.
The imminent decline in the quality of education, as a result of the proposed action, will be to the detriment of not only current staff and students; poorer quality and narrowed subject offerings may have long term impacts on the health and viability of rural tertiary education across the board.
Jessica Andreatta
Mathematics Honours from QUT
13 April, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Tom Grice
INSANITY. INSANITY on a grand scale.
13 April, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Gabriela Pohl
I support this petition as I can fully endorse comments made above highlighting the important support staff in the USQ Mathematics department are providing to the wider USQ community. I know of several staff in the USQ Mathematics department who are not only genuinely nice people, but also outstanding and hard-working professionals. These staff are at the forefront of using new technologies in pedagogically sound and innovative ways to better serve their students and are most generous in sharing their expertise with other USQ staff. USQ will lose a lot more than a department if we were to lose staff of such calibre and commitment.
13 April, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Mark Phythian
I strongly support this petition.
As an engineer and academic I understand the value of Maths and Stats in both applied engineering and research. Service teaching of maths is just the tip of the iceberg with respect to the invaluable contribution the staff in this field provide to the engineering dicsipline.
We have already seen a reduction in the physics content our young engineers are exposed to, which was essentially driven by ‘market forces’. What will the future hold for our presently highly regarded engineering graduates and our research capability, if we cannot access the expertise of our science colleagues beyond Maths 101.
M Phythian B Eng (Hons) M Eng
13 April, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Bruce Barber
I strongly support this petition
13 April, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition and feel for colleagues affected at USQ.
13 April, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Billy & Grace Tao
We are writing this letter with mixed feelings.
Firstly, we are deeply touched by the incredible support from many brilliant mathematicians around the world, some of whom probably have never been to Australia, and we are proud that our son Terry is courageous enough to initiate this meaningful campaign. But on the other hand, we are sad that it has taken so long to attend to the cancer that is destroying the standard of mathematics education in Australia. While we always consider ourselves very lucky that Terry was educated during the eighties when our local university, Flinders, was of world class standards, we watched helplessly over the years when gradual cuts and compromises were made to university after university across the country. Not just in mathematics and other less “fashionable” subjects, but also in teacher training. Several years ago, we were dumbfounded when we met a secondary school mathematics teacher who couldn’t even solve a simple quadratic equation – he himself studied mainly arts subjects during high school but has to teach a math class because of staff shortage! How can this proud nation get to such a sorry state?
We believe there are other gifted children like Adam around us, who can be nourished to make impressive contributions to mankind if given a healthy education. Such God-sent talents are extremely rare, please treasure and support them with pride. Saving USQ from staff cuts this time is only the first step, but it is an important step in the right direction. If this government doesn’t want the nation to become the laughing stock in the international academic world, much more needs to be done from primary school to university. Now.
We whole-heartedly support this petition.
Grace Tao,
Dr Billy Tao
Paediatrician
Flinders Medical Centre
South Australia
13 April, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Laurie Moran
There are two aspects of Mathematics: Using Mathematics, and Understanding Mathematics.
Universities should be a place where both are taught. A place where people can learn the Mathematics they need to use in doing their job, and where others can go to learn to understand how Mathematics works, not only so that they can extend their minds, but also so that they can devise the Mathematics needed for those who need to use it.
A university that does not teach Mathematics is failing in its duty.
I am a proud graduate of the Mathematics programme at USQ (when it was DDIAE) – I have seen the cut-backs that have occured since my time, and hold grave fears for the future if the Mathematics programme is further reduced to the ‘cookbook’ (do it this way – you don’t need to know why)level.
13 April, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Simon
So many other disciplines are dependent upon a strong mathematics and statistics core in any academic institution. If the current administration is intent upon crippling USQ’s research capability, then the proposed cuts are a capital means of achieving that aim.
13 April, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Peter Brockwell
I have been appalled over the last twenty years to witness the extraordinary proliferation of management personnel and the hijacking of decision-making from the academic sector in Australian universities. .
I whole-heartedly support this petition.
Peter Brockwell
Emeritus Professor of Statistics, Colorado State University.
Professorial Fellow, The University of Melbourne.
13 April, 2008 at 5:49 pm
catherine Agnes Carroll
What’s really afoot when valid academia is wiped out? I fear for the future of my children and this could have been great southern land.
Perhaps the government ought be looking to tax the publishers of populous trash academic magazines for their significant contributions towards the destruction of essential theoretical truths and therefore it’s entire and might I suggest essential class of followers and save us all with the revenue raised.
E= mc squared breaks down in loop quantum theory indeed.
Every first year student knows laws are only applicable when states of matter dictate they do.
13 April, 2008 at 6:08 pm
Dale Leighton
I just re-enrolled in IT at USQ again for professional development and I was a little dissapointed to see that “Algebra & Calculus I” as well as “Algebra & Calculus II” are no longer compulsary subjects, but I want to do them as electives anyway…
What kind of UNI’ pulls the plug on the Mathematics department???
I think strong math skills translate into strong thinking skills in all facets of science — computing included. Would you teach READING in school and disregard the importance of appropriate levels of parrallel SPELLING and COMPREHENSION?
Dale Leighton
Manager
ShineLife Computers &
Burnie Campus – Unity College Australia
dale@shinelife.org.au
dale.leighton@gmail.com
W: (03) 6432 2777
M: 0420 869 691
13 April, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Debra Farrior
I strongly support this petition.
Debra B. Farrior, Ph.D.
Victoria, Texas, USA
13 April, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Daniel Hatch
I support this petition. Removing mathematics from university is an absolute disgrace. Removing mathematics from USQ will prove how unprofessional the university is. Mathematics, I believe, is what makes a high quality education.
Removal of theoretical sciences from the university affects my course along with many other students courses.
If mathematics was to be removed from USQ, I would not recomend this university to anyone who is seeking a high quality technical education.
Daniel Hatch
13 April, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Peter Dunn
The loss of maths and stats in, alarmingly, based on cost-of-teaching arguments. The effects of losing maths and stats staff on research at USQ is difficult to understate.
13 April, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Kevin Martin
I don’t know why this socialist Federal Government wants to put Universerty students back 30 years with an unaccountable piecemeal donation in pretence of its support for mathematics. I support the petition. What does the Minister for Education plan to say to the Australian Public? Or are there are enough public content to consume imported inferior products who are so uneducated in essentials they will not care? Let’s slay bullshit arts, psychology and micky mouse humanity subjects first so we have a chance of surviving the new world trade order.
13 April, 2008 at 6:21 pm
Sara Forster
I support this petition as I am thinking of doing Maths at USQ next year.
13 April, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Lui Guidone
I strongly support this petition.
13 April, 2008 at 6:52 pm
Jesse A. Canchola
I strongly support his petition. It would seem USQ is walking backwards. In fact, the support should be for *stronger* requirements for professional accreditation (for example, as the SSAI for might provide for statistics).
Jesse A. Canchola
Senior Biostatistician, Siemens Healthcare Diagnostics Inc.
Lecturer, Dept. of Statistics, Cal. State Univ. East Bay
Member, ASA Ad-Hoc Committee on Professional Accreditation
13 April, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Craig Nicholas
I strongly support this petition.
13 April, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Sam Farrell
As a past maths student of USQ I am extremely disappointed in the approach the Faculty of Science is taking with regards to the decline in interest in the mathematics and statistics disciplines.
13 April, 2008 at 8:40 pm
Prof Tony Roberts
As the Professor of Applied Mathematics at USQ, and on behalf of staff and students at USQ, both current and future, I thank you all with all my heart. In particular I single out for extra special thanks, Terry Tao, Hyam Rubenstein, and Peter Hall for their tireless efforts. We are all extremely grateful for your contributions to the debate and hope that our management will listen to your input with open and rational minds.
A few minutes ago I saved as pdf the petition and all your comments so far, all 210 pages, and submitted to USQ as official input to the official “consultative” process. Be assured that all your input will be seen and accounted for, although management is coy about saying who actually sees and accounts.
Thank you,
Tony Roberts
13 April, 2008 at 8:47 pm
Sang-il Oum
I strongly support this petition.
Assistant Professor.
Dept. of Mathematical Sciences
KAIST, Daejeon, Korea.
13 April, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Steve Walsh
I support this petition for a number of reasons:
Firstly as the parent of a young boy who has taken part in extension classes at USQ (along with many others of school age), been mentored by the caring staff and been allowed to take some classes by the department. Through those activities I saw a group of highly competent and enthusiastic professionals, so dedicated that they stayed, unpaid, many hours into their own time, eager to pass a little more knowledge to their students.
For that I thank them and remind USQ management that you cannot buy that culture and its benefits to an organisation – you nurture it, you grow it, but you certainly don’t throw it away!
A university should be a place where my boy and others of his generation have the chance to be taught by those who are passionate and deeply knowledgeable about their subject, not service teachers run ragged from trying to jam enough formula based mathematics and science into thousands of indifferent heads.
Secondly, I support this as somebody who has hired many engineers and programmers for local, national and international technology projects. Experience has taught me that those with the strongest pure mathematics and theoretical physics backgrounds usually make the best independent problem solvers. Those with light, vocational training are quickly lost when the real-world problems don’t look like the text book. I interviewed somebody from USQ last week – he was hired. If USQ removes the theoretical base from its engineering and computing disciplines, I (and others like me) simply won’t bother any more with those resumes.
Thirdly, (and very impractically) I support this because I believe that mathematics is the basis for all science, that the pursuit of knowledge and understanding for its own sake is the most noble quality which sets man apart from animal and that universities should be the guardians and champions of that ideal.
And thank you Professor Tao for giving your valuable time to take a stand here to stop the rot which is eating away at our educational base.
Steve Walsh
13 April, 2008 at 9:10 pm
Gerard Fogarty
The petition has my full support.
13 April, 2008 at 9:21 pm
Tony Chan
As someone who just visited several Australian mathematical institutions, spoke at the 2007 Australian Math Society annual meeting, and read the Bourguignon-Dietrich-Johnstone report, I became aware of the abysmal and draconian situation that math depts in Australia faces. Viewed from my US funding agency perspective, this is particularly ironic as the US is trying its best to dramatically increase research funding for Math, and to attract more talented students into the math sciences. We are doing this for self interest: to maintain leadership and economic competitiveness globally. I’d think Australia would be motivated similarly. It is also sad because Australia has had a stellar international reputation in math, producing many world leaders, and producing the diaspora scatterred around the world (including my UCLA colleagues Terry Tao and Greg Hjorth). The system must have been doing things right — and as they say it is much easier to tear something down than to build something up. Finally, having been an university administrator myself, I believe that what sets a great university apart from a mere vocational factory is how the institution supports the basic disciplines such as math, putting the pursuit of knowledge ahead of financial considerations.
Tony Chan
Professor of Math, UCLA
(On leave at NSF as Assistant Director for Math & Physical Sciences)
13 April, 2008 at 9:21 pm
Adrienne Fairhall
As a grateful recipient of an Australian physics/maths education from several cosignatories, I strongly support this petition.
Adrienne Fairhall
Department of Physiology and Biophysics
University of Washington
Seattle WA
13 April, 2008 at 11:14 pm
Lindy Kimmins
I support the petition.
Lindy Kimmins
Academic Language Support
Learning and Teaching Support Unit
USQ
14 April, 2008 at 12:05 am
Robert DEWAR
The USQ Department of Mathematics and Computing has a high profile nationally from its research, outreach, service to the mathematical community through the hosting of electronic publication for the Australian Mathematical Society, and participation in the ARC Research Networks scheme. I urge the administration to consider the long-term damage the proposed drastic cuts will do to USQ’s national and international image before taking what seems to be an ill-considered, short-term cost saving measure.
14 April, 2008 at 1:29 am
Wah June Leong
I strongly support this petition.
Wah June Leong
Department of Mathematics,
University Putra Malaysia
14 April, 2008 at 1:37 am
Anonymous
Maths and Physics are the backbone of a lot of degrees
Try and build something without the two
14 April, 2008 at 1:38 am
John Eaton
Maths and Physics are the backbone of a lot of degrees
Try and build something without the two and once more with my name attached.
14 April, 2008 at 5:20 am
Alek Vainshtein
I strongly support this petition.
Alek Vainshtein
Dept of Mathematics
University of Haifa
14 April, 2008 at 5:56 am
Kevin-John Beasley
If USQ cut maths particularly from the Faculty of Engineering courses I hope IEAust reacts in kind by cutting your accreditation, rather than letting the good name of my degree be dragged through the mud. Think before you act.
Kevin-John Beasley
Former Student
Bachelor of Engineering (Hons) / Bachelor of IT
Faculty of Engineering / Department of Maths and Computing
University of Southern Queensland
14 April, 2008 at 6:10 am
Rob Henderson-Hare
Australia’s future bleak without Maths and Science.
Here is a lesson in history for those who want to ruin this Nation.
What do you suppose would have been the outcome if the compass and sexton were not invented. How about the use of logarithms. Maybe you have no idea how every day your very existence depends on the use of maths and science, but you do!
It is abundantly clear that the people in Canberra are visually impaired. They don’t have a vision for this Nation’s future, or any concept of what the future needs of its people will be.
Government is there to provide higher Education in general, but even more so for Science and Maths, as they are above all other due to their intrinsic nature of knowledge discovered and skill used, that envelopes all that is used in society, form paper and pens to maintaining hygiene to exporting goods that earns foreign income. Maths and science are the hands that provide us with the tools and means that enables us to do achieve these benefits. This is why Maths and science is needed to be understood and taught and researched to the limit, to push the boundary of knowledge further.
Education should be eagerly sought after, encouraged, have rigorous procedure in place to train students to the best of their potential by supporting their efforts with good staff and good facilities. Inturn the staff should be well supported to attend to students’ curriculum and just as importantly undertake RESEARCH where ever ably appropriate.
Research in industry is what gives you, us, the edge in this highly competitive world. Theoretical research is just as important because it opens up new fields of knowledge or application of existing knowledge, new understanding, new ways, new inventions. Where would medical science be without research?
In short if this government wanted to be helpful it would increase the budget to maths and science faculties for this year and successive years to ensure the infrastructure for business, government, education, and RESEARCH were met.. indeed to ensure a future for this Nation.
Its odd that you don’t need a war to destroy you country, just a few years of government mismanagement. Is the language too strong? It depends on which side you stand; “Government’s or our Nation’s”.
14 April, 2008 at 7:07 am
Alexia Gilmore
My husband (Colin Hunter, BA math, MA history Stanford) and I (BA Bio UC Riverside) both heartily support the petition to stop cuts in math/stats/computer science at U of Southern Queensland — we do so as employers in the high tech computer industry for the past 30+ years which desperately needs math/science folk; also as the parents of a young college entrant — such resources are essential to catch the minds of the unusual academic child and offer it a path to begin to follow — which is a gift to us all.
14 April, 2008 at 7:20 am
Susan Mule, M.Ed.
I am writing to strongly support this petition to discontinue any and all cuts to the maths and sciences departments. Math and science are the foundations of knowledge and seem to be dwindling in the Western World. I hope the University of Southern Queensland will rethink this abysmal error.
Susan G. Mule, M.Ed.
USA
14 April, 2008 at 10:36 am
Bertram K. C. Chan, PhD(University of Sydney, Australia)
I strongly endorse the support of mathematics education & research, in USQ or elsewhere, particularly in Australia, where I was educated: BSc(Honours Class 1),MEngSc,PhD. Excellent programs in mathematics, & in all basic sciences, had made me effective & competitive in the USA for the past 30 years in the Silicon Valley here in California. Without such opportunities in Australia, I doubt if I can professionally survive in the technological age today.
Bertram K. C. Chan, PhD(Sydney),PEng(California),MIEEE
Consulting Scientist
Department of Epidemiology & Biostatistics
School of Public Health
Loma Linda University, California, USA
14 April, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Bryna Kra
I fully support this petition.
Bryna Kra
Professor
Department of Mathematics
Northwestern University
14 April, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Michelle Gabriel
We are always worried about the brain drain, but when we start cutting these type of courses at Universities we don’t even give people a chance to use or learn how to use their brain. This worries me so much for the future on not just maths but creativity in maths for the future.
I fully support this petition also.
Michelle Gabriel
Past President
QAGTC Gold Coast Branch
Queensland
14 April, 2008 at 7:21 pm
Ilya
I strongly support this petition.
Ilya Gruzberg
Assistant Professor, University of Chicago
14 April, 2008 at 8:54 pm
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
Darryn Bryant
QEII Research Fellow
University of Queensland
14 April, 2008 at 10:54 pm
Ken Milton
Ken
Australia can ill afford to limit the training of mathematicians, mathematics educators and those professionals who use Mathematics in their appllied fields.
I wholeheartedly support this petition.
Dr Ken Milton
Honorary Associate in Mathematics Education
University of Tasmania
14 April, 2008 at 11:34 pm
Sam Hodgson
I 100% support this petition. I am currently studying maths at USQ and I am myself unsure if I will have a degree to go back to next semester. I hope that this petition can help show the ‘decision makers’ at USQ that maths is important and shouldn’t be cut simply because, in their minds, it is not profitable.
14 April, 2008 at 11:54 pm
Judy Anderson
I am very concerned about the proposed changes to staffing levels at UQ. This seems to be in contrast to the Federal Government’s move to reduce HECS fees for science and mathematics students and increase the number of scholarships in order to promote the study of mathematics and science and encourage students to pursue mathematics and science related careers.
The future of Australian students’ mathematics education must be addressed at all levels of education – school and university. Cutbacks do not bring about change. They create more issues and increase unease and dissatisfaction for staff and students.
At a time when we need to train more secondary mathematics teachers, we cannot afford to reduce mathematicians in universities.
15 April, 2008 at 2:13 am
Muriel Knope
I strongly support this petition.
Muriel Knope, M.A.
USA
15 April, 2008 at 2:54 am
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition. Where is the logic behind dropping key specialisations like maths, physics, and chemistry from a science degree? You are giving people the impression that you do not take either maths or science seriously. If potential students do not have enough majors to choose from, they will avoid USQ like the plague!
15 April, 2008 at 4:42 am
Mitchell Smith
I strongly support this petition. If cuts of this magnitude are to take place, I will probably be looking to shift to another University to complete my degree.
Quite frankly I am disgusted in what is going on.
15 April, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition. The likely effects of the proposed cuts are appalling to contemplate.
Mike Mitchelmore
Director
Centre for Research in Mathematics and Science Education
Macquarie University
Sydney
15 April, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Josh Watson
I support this petition as I am one of the students affected by this decision.
Unfortunately I feel this will not make a difference to the administrators, as I believe there is a hidden agenda behind this. Currently as Terry has stated the department is quite profitable, to me this means there is no case for closure, however the administrators believe there is. Education is the key to everything in society, without it there can be no economic prosperity or growth, and it is quite disappointing that in the future someone such as myself who couldn’t afford to study in a major metropolitan university, could no longer study high level mathematics at USQ. It is absurd to think USQ has no obligation to continue these courses. When did education stop being a right in this country and become a commodity for the privileged few.
Thanks for everyone’s support
15 April, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Robert Samal
I strongly support this petition.
Robert Samal
PIMS post-doc at SFU, Canada
15 April, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Troy Farrell
My thoughts go out to my colleagues at USQ who must be devastated by this short-sighted and cold-hearted decision.
In such a competative marketplace why would any institution want to devalue one of its products, namely, a well rounded, quantitative science based education, in this way? Surely mathematics is the key to delivering such a product.
I strongly support this petition.
Troy Farrell
Senior Lecturer – Mathematical Sciences
Queensland University of Technology
15 April, 2008 at 7:12 pm
Pietro Cerone
I totally support this petition.
This sort of announcement has come at a time when we in Australia had thought that the worst was behind us with the actions of the Society, the Mathematical Sciences review, the efforts of the Australian Mathematical Sciences Institute and the recognition of the new Federal goverment of the importance of Mathematical Sciences to the future benefits to Australia.
Such an action is extremely short sighted and regressive.
Assoc, Prof P. Cerone
Head, Computer Science and Mathematics
Victoria University
15 April, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Roberta Atherton
I strongly support the petition and am heartened to see the levels of public support.
Roberta Atherton
Solicitor
15 April, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Radu Craiu
I fully support the petition and I really hope that the Australian government will listen to the voices of reason!!
Radu Craiu
Associate Professor of Statistics
University of Toronto
15 April, 2008 at 11:36 pm
Ulla Axelsen
Many high schools students are losing interest in Maths because it is not made exciting and interesting by their teachers who are often do not have a good Maths background themselves, It is very important that Maths makes a resurgence and that we get teachers who are really interested in the subject they are teaching. This will not happen if our universities cut back on staff and available subjects. The opposite should be happening! Long live Maths!!!
16 April, 2008 at 3:03 am
Justin Cameron
I endorse the petition.
Justin Cameron
USQ Graduate
16 April, 2008 at 3:55 am
Jason Willy
I love maths and it’s old friend, physics. The pursuit and accessibility of these idea sets has been a mark of our culture. Don’t we want them anymore?
Jason Willy
Teacher
BSci (with majors in Maths and Physics from USQ) BEd
Toowoomba
16 April, 2008 at 5:18 am
Peter M Robinson
I strongly support this petition.
16 April, 2008 at 5:40 am
Norma Stoeve
I endorse this petition.
16 April, 2008 at 6:57 am
Manuel Alfonseca
I support this petition.
Manuel Alfonseca
Full professor
Department of Computer Science Engineering
Autonomous University of Madrid
Spain
16 April, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Graham Farr
I strongly support this petition.
Graham Farr
Associate Professor
Head, Caulfield School of IT, Faculty of IT
Monash University
16 April, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Lydia Wills
I support this petition
16 April, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Stacie Walton
I strongly support this petition. I am unable to comprehend why the university administration would be even contemplating making such cuts.
Stacie Walton
Secondary School Maths Teacher
Past student of USQ – BSc(Maths/Physics) / BEd(Secondary)
16 April, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Bede Wilson
USQ’s Deputy VC Graham Barker laments that their hand has been forced because students are not encouraged to take on maths at school. If he had ever attended a USQ Education lecture he would know why.
Bede Wilson
Student of USQ (Engineering)
16 April, 2008 at 8:14 pm
Rolf Turner
Making such cuts would be a terribly shortsighted move. We are coming
to a time in human history when scientific innovation is going to be
desperately needed. Producing scientists who are highly skilled in
mathematics and statistics should one of our highest priorities.
More than that, mathematical skills are vital at all levels of human
activity right at present, and there is a shortage of such skills. To
illustrate: Here in New Zealand a week or two ago there were prominent
stories in the press about abysmally high failure rates among apprentices
training to be plumbers. (Something like a 30% pass rate!) A major
reason for this: A lack of maths skills! (Plumbers deal with cylindrical
objects all the time — and thereby need to be able to handle tasks
such as calculating the volume of such objects. You may not think
this is deep, but if someone hasn’t been taught maths properly, he
or she is not going to be able to handle it.)
Rolf Turner
Statistician
Starpath Project
University of Auckland
16 April, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Jeremy Ralston
I strongly support this petition.
Jeremy Ralston
Current student at USQ – BESM with majors in both Maths & Physics
17 April, 2008 at 1:10 am
Dr Alim S. Ajiev
I strongly support this petition. Mathematics and IT are
the most suitable directions for Australia to become the one
of the most significant countries and don’t lose all it’s “goods and face”.
17 April, 2008 at 3:26 am
stetner
I support this petition.
Douglas G. Stetner
BSc (Computer Science)
17 April, 2008 at 4:42 am
Amie Albrecht
I strongly support this petition. Core knowledge areas of mathematics and sciences should be an integral part of university education irrespective of the numbers of students enrolled.
Many people are turned off mathematics in high school because it is not interesting, relevant or being taught, with confidence, by a mathematically trained teacher. It goes without saying that this has an adverse impact on many disciplines and professions, not just mathematics and statistics.
Universities need to lead from the front and support the future of mathematics in this country.
Amie Albrecht
School of Mathematics and Statistics
University of South Australia
17 April, 2008 at 5:26 pm
John Belward
One wonders how long this sort of thing can go on. In Queensland we have experienced the failure of Mathematics to function at Bond University, the closure of mathematics at the University of Central Queensland and the decimation of the mathematics department at James Cook University. Not bad for a Smart State! But htere is nothing special about Queensland here, this malaise is national.
What really appals me is the hypocrisy of our politicians, our public servants our captains of industry and our educational institutions all of whom identify the deplorable situation and do absolutely nothing to act.
17 April, 2008 at 11:15 pm
Sergey Ajiev
I strongly support this petition because nobody knows where a potential researcher in natural sciences can be born. And, according to
K.F. Gauss, the quality of any science is measured by its mathematical content.
While this is only the visible part of the “iceberg” of the related complex problem, it is also the visible part of a very negative tendency which, fortunately, has become more noticeable thanks to the incident.
Sergey Ajiev,
School of Mathematics and Statistics,
University of New South Wales.
18 April, 2008 at 4:59 am
Frank Ashe
I strongly support this petition. Others have already given my arguments above, so I won’t repeat them.
Frank Ashe
Associate Professor
Applied Finance Centre
Macquarie University
Consultant
Quantitative Strategies
18 April, 2008 at 5:56 am
Lasse Holmström
I would like to express my strongest support for this petition.
Lasse Holmström
Professor and Chair
Department of Mathematical Sciences
University of Oulu
Finland
18 April, 2008 at 10:41 pm
Jayalal Sarma
I endorse the petition as stated and urge the Australian government to reconsider.
Jayalal Sarma
Graduate Student
Institute of Mathematical Sciences
Chennai, India.
19 April, 2008 at 1:01 am
Peter Cameron
I grew up in Toowoomba; it is still home to me, though I have lived in Britain for the last forty years. I have seen in Britain the damage that can be done by short-sighted, accountant-driven decisions about universities – not only mathematics departments, but physics, chemistry, classics, and many other subjects have been threatened or lost. It is so easy to decide to destroy the life of a department, but this decision cannot easily be reversed; you can’t just turn the tap back on again if you decide later that a mistake has been made.
Mathematics is likely to suffer because its benefits are hard to measure. Ian Stewart describes it as “the ultimate in technology transfer” because the techniques of logical thinking, reasoning, and attacking problems which are learnt in a mathematics degree can be applied to any problem which life throws up; but mathematics does not have the near-market results that our funders seem to prefer.
19 April, 2008 at 11:10 am
Yuan Eu Liao
I strongly support this petition.
Yuan Eu Liao
Software Engineer (MS Computer Science)
19 April, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Brett Rangiira
This petition has my full support. These proposed cuts to the mathematics, statistics and computing departments at USQ are neither smart or clever initiatives for the ‘Smart State’ or the ‘Clever Country’. This is not a solution for the underlying problems. Surely we can do better than this.
Brett Rangiira
School Teacher
19 April, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Anonymous
I strongly support the petition to stop proposed cuts to USQ’s Mathematics, Statistics and Computer departments.
Patricia Hosking
Head of Mathematics
St Aidan’s AGS
20 April, 2008 at 2:09 am
Murray Aitkin
The formulation of this proposal to decimate mathematics and statistics is an immediate disaster, and if implemented will lead to a sequence of further disasters for the University. The absence of any long-term view of the
consequences of the proposed action is astounding. Once such an action is taken, the University can never regain a mathematics programme, nor will it be able to find new competent staff willing to teach service-course mathematics under the new circumstances. The flow-on effects of degradation of the University in related areas which need mathematics will also be severe.
The pattern of diverting the additional funding for mathematics and statistics, already clear in other Universities, is being taken to an unbelievable extent here, of destroying the department which brought in, and was entitled to, the additional funding.
Murray Aitkin
Emeritus Professor of Statistics,
University of Newcastle upon Tyne
(Professorial Fellow, Department of Mathematics and Statistics,
University of Melbourne)
20 April, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition
C Price, Senior lecturer
University of Canterbury
20 April, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Stephen Searle
As a former student of the Flinders University of SA, I am concerned at the cutbacks which have happened at that University and are about to happen at USQ. Without a solid grounding in University-level mathematics I would never have been able to enter my eventual career. I therefore support and endorse the text of this petition.
Stephen Searle
Research Fellow
University of Melbourne
21 April, 2008 at 1:25 am
Pekka Pere
I support the petition.
Pekka Pere
University Lecturer
University of Helsinki
21 April, 2008 at 10:11 am
Yann Brenier
The future of Australia (and many other developped countries)
essentially relies on high level education, in particular in sciences, maths and physics. It is a pity that this is not understood by some rulers.
Yann Brenier
visiting IPAM/UCLA
CNRS, Universite de Nice, France
21 April, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Murray McGregor
I heartily support this petition. I use some of USQ’s extramural maths courses here at The Open Polytechnic of New Zealand and our students find them excellent teaching material. High quality, effective distance-course development and maintenance needs realistic resourcing, and if the proposals go ahead that won’t be available.
Murray McGregor
Mathematics and Statistics
School of Information and Social Sciences
The Open Polytechnic of New Zealand
22 April, 2008 at 2:37 am
Roger Lewis
This petition has my support.
Roger Lewis
Professor
Faculty of Engineering
University of Wollongong
23 April, 2008 at 3:12 am
Daniel Mathews
I agree.
Daniel Mathews
PhD student
Stanford University
24 April, 2008 at 2:45 am
Associate Professor Lloyd Dawe
I am very concerned to hear of the proposed cuts at USQ and heartily endorse the petition. Mathematics is vital to the future of our nation.
Lloyd Dawe
formerly Associate Professor of Mathematics Education
University of Sydney.
24 April, 2008 at 5:48 am
Fabrice Baudoin
I agree and support this petition.
Fabrice Baudoin
Mathematical Institute, Toulouse,
France
24 April, 2008 at 7:41 am
Dr Stephen Huggett
I strongly support this petition.
24 April, 2008 at 9:03 am
Grace Chiu
This petition deserves my and every quantitative scientist’s support. The proposed cuts (particularly the elimination of non-service mathematical courses) not only belittles the importance of the diverse disciplines within the mathematical sciences, but also imply that mathematical subjects are solely intended to serve other disciplines, and are not legitimate scientific disciplines in their own right. This would be analogous to removing programs in English studies, because English should be needed only to serve the teaching of other legitimate subjects, but English itself does not deserve to be a discipline of its own. Such an argument, obviously, would be utterly absurd.
24 April, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Lynette Hee
I endorse this petition.
25 April, 2008 at 5:23 am
Sanjay Chawla
I strongly support the petition.
The problem is exacerbated, perhaps caused, by the way that university funding is allocated to Schools and Departments reducing the whole exercise into something not too dissimilar to a zero-sum game.
When a student from department X, takes a course from department Y, then X effectively suffers a net loss of revenue.
I hope Australian universities can move closer to the US model where there is a clear understanding that student enrollment patterns are cyclical and core department funding is generally independent of student enrollment numbers.
Sanjay Chawla
Associate Professor
Head of School
School of Information Technologies
University of Sydney
Australia
27 April, 2008 at 6:45 am
Shi Bai
It is sad to hear the proposed cuts at USQ. I strongly support this petition.
Shi Bai
PhD student
ANU
28 April, 2008 at 1:12 am
Jan Nicholson
I fully support this petition.
Hopefully someone will listen to reason and return universities to what they are supposed to be there for – to educate. Business outcomes should be secondary. There is a broader issue here that needs addressing. Governments need to fund universities to allow them to do what they do best – educate people.
Jan Nicholson
29 April, 2008 at 4:01 am
Ken Mottram
Ken Mottram
I heartily support this petition.
I am now retired, but during my 28 years as a member of USQ’s Science technical staff, I saw many changes. I was lab. manager, Geology when that discipline was completely closed down. That Department had the best research output on Campus at the time and sufficient undergraduate students to justify its existence. Australia is now crying out for Geologists- especially the practical field -trained graduates USQ produced. Excellent staff were sacrificed.
I was lab manager, Physics for much of the balance of my time at USQ. Physics was always under attack.(As it is now once again). Student numbers in advanced Physics units are invariably small the world over. These units are definitely not for the mathematically challenged. But Physics has a large and crucial service role within USQ especially for Engineering, Science and Education students. These comments apply equally (if not even more so) to Maths and Stats. USQ has been down this road before – in the early 90′s. We were fortunate then to have a very far-sighted academic leader in Prof. Ralph Parsons who researched this matter meticulously and submitted a report which was subsequently adopted by the USQ Council. I would strongly recommend that the Vice Chancellor Prof. Lovegrove, Deputy Vice Chancellor Graham Baker and the new Dean of the Faculty of Sciences seek out and study the Parsons report before it is too late and irreparable damage is done. History will not treat them kindly!
History at USQ clearly demonstrates that a Faculty does really well when a Dean is strong, shows real independence and is prepared to go in to bat for his/her staff. After all, good staff are absolutely the greatest and most valuable asset that any University can possess.
Ken Mottram
Retired Geology Lab. Manager, Physics Lab Manager, Mount Kent Observatory Manager & Manager, Centre for Astronomy & Atmospheric Research. 1975-2003.
29 April, 2008 at 11:11 am
Lei Zhang
I strongly support this petition.
Lei Zhang
Max Planck Institute for Mathematics in Sciences, Leipzig, Germany
29 April, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Andrew Bartlett
I strongly support this petition.
29 April, 2008 at 7:52 pm
wendy pero
I support this petition.
30 April, 2008 at 12:20 am
Lucy Westcott
As an IT student through the Department of Mathematics and Computing, I am appalled by the proposal. Studying in Toowoomba, and being able to live at home while doing so, has enabled me to save a significant amount of money, setting me up well for the future. I was also fortunate enough to be given a full-time job with a local business after only 2 years of study, because of a huge shortage of IT graduates. I fear that this sort of opportunity will not be available to Toowoomba IT students in the future. I do not see how existing students of Mathematics and Computing can not be negatively affected by these changes – it is absurd.
Supply and demand in the job market are always somewhat out of sync. There is a contradictory belief in society at large that jobs are not available in IT. Once the demand is widely known, IT enrollments are sure to increase, and those Universities that still offer a decent IT program will enjoy high enrollments in IT once more.
Lucy Westcott
IT Student – USQ Faculty of Sciences
1 May, 2008 at 10:52 am
Simon Sheather
I fully support the petition. As an expat Australian currently working in the US, I am both astonished and embarrassed by the news of the proposed cuts, at a time when the Australian econmy is booming.
Professor Simon Sheather
Department Head
Department of Statistics
Texas A&M University
1 May, 2008 at 9:53 pm
Justin Peter
As a previous student at a provincial university (The Flinders University of South Australia) during the late 1980s and early 1990s, I received a world-class mathematics education. The education gained at Flinders enabled me to pursue postgraduate studies and postdoctoral work overseas. On several occasions whilst working overseas I overheard comments about the high esteem in which an Australian-based education in mathematics and the physical sciences was held. There were, however, other occasions when the deterioration of the Australian education system was noted.
Having returned to Australia and been surprised by the wealth of this country, I consider it a travesty that more money can not be provided to smaller universities to enable them to continue providing education which is the envy of other nations. I, therefore, endorse the sentiments contained in this petition.
Dr Justin Peter
School of Mathematical Sciences
Monash University
1 May, 2008 at 9:54 pm
Lyle Pakula
I just hope were still the “lucky” country because were not the “smart” country anymore.
Lyle Pakula
Lecturer, School of Mathematics
Monash University
2 May, 2008 at 3:25 am
Tony Morton
I strongly support the statement of the petition. Mathematics is a core discipline that is essential to science and industry, including my own discipline of electrical power engineering. For a university to effectively divest itself of mathematics as a field of study is akin to cutting off an arm. The Australian university sector has been in crisis for years and our critical skills shortage is a result.
Dr Tony Morton
Senior Engineer, Power Systems
Econnect Australia Pty Ltd
2 May, 2008 at 4:53 am
Professor Michael Murray
I strongly support this petition. The Federal Government has recently increased funding to mathematics to stop the decline in mathematics department and should intervene directly to prevent this happening.
Dr Michael Murray FAustMS
Professor of Pure Mathematics
University of Adelaide
2 May, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Paul Emanuel
I strongly support this petition.
Paul Emanuel
PhD Student
Macquarie University
2 May, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Professor Graham Farquhar FAA FRS
I support the petition. As Vice President of the Australian Academy of Science I have spoken publicly about the importance of mathematics and its role in education. Australia needs more minds that have had mathematical training.
Graham Farquhar
Head, Environmental Biology Group;
and Associate Director,
Research School of Biological Sciences,
Australian National University.
2 May, 2008 at 11:28 pm
Po Lam Yung
I support this petition.
Po Lam Yung,
Graduate Student,
Department of Mathematics,
Princeton University
3 May, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Rosemary Mardling
USQ reminds me of Monash before our current enlightened and intelligent Vice Chancellor replaced a second-rate business manager. I am a survivor from the time Monash maths suffered similar cuts, and my research career bears the scars of the resulting huge teaching loads. We are now very healthy and look forward to a bright future, especially since at least some of the increased government funding is finding its way to us.
I most certainly support this petition.
Rosemary Mardling
Senior Lecturer
School of Mathematical Sciences
Monash University
4 May, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Paul Watters
I strongly support this petition.
Dr. Paul A. Watters
4 May, 2008 at 9:05 pm
Anonymous
In support of the petition,
Gerry Myerson
Senior Lecturer
Mathematics
Macquarie University
5 May, 2008 at 12:13 am
Isar Stubbe
I strongly support this petition.
Isar Stubbe
Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
University of Antwerp, Belgium
5 May, 2008 at 2:43 am
Marty Waters
As a Mathematics teacher it is very important that there is a major boost in mathematics standing at university level. Any reduction needs to be very carefully considered.
5 May, 2008 at 10:31 pm
Lorraine Reynolds
I strongly support this petition. As a student of USQ we need the University to reconsider it’s decision.
6 May, 2008 at 5:45 am
Peter Horan
USQ is not the first.
6 May, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Anonymous
Quite frankly, I find that Universities are hyper-focusing so much on the bottom line that they are forgetting a University’s true purpose: academics and the teaching thereof. Without a Department of Mathematics (or with one that is extremely reduced in capability), it’s only a matter of time before the entire Faculty of Science falls. Though Mathematics isn’t “wiz-bang” like the current buzzword fields like Nano-tech, it is the corner-stone of all Science, Engineering, and all fields of technology. Without it, we have nothing.
Given the above, I whole-heartedly support this petition.
Reid Nichol
Mathematics Student (currently in-between Universities)
7 May, 2008 at 8:26 am
Anonymous
Mathematics and mathematical thinking are of vital importance to all hard
sciences and increasingly to soft sciences like biology. Because it is a tool
it doesn’t get mentioned in press releases – it suffers from low visibility -
even if the work could not have been done without it. More mathematics
is needed not less! I strongly support this petition.
Duncan Sands
Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique, France
8 May, 2008 at 5:53 am
Graeme Segal
I strongly support the petition.
Graeme Segal, Senior Research Fellow, All Souls College, Oxford, U.K.
8 May, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Matthew Baxter
I strongly support this petition.
Matthew Baxter
Undergraduate Student (Mathematics and Computer Science)
The University of Melbourne
9 May, 2008 at 2:23 am
Anthony Widjaja To
I strongly support this petition as well.
Anthony Widjaja To
PhD student, LFCS, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh, U.K
9 May, 2008 at 10:59 am
Yannis Kevrekidis
I have an active funded collaboration
with faculty in the Department, and we have already lost a postdoc
that would come to work on the project because of the situation.
I strongly support this petition
9 May, 2008 at 11:06 pm
Prof Peter Lockhart
I also strongly support this petition. The greatest advances to come in biological understanding will be underpinned by maths and stats – the proposed cuts are very shortsighted.
9 May, 2008 at 11:39 pm
Thilo Kuessner
I support the petition.
Thilo Kuessner
Postdoc
Universität Münster
10 May, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Dr Steven I Barry
I strongly support this petition.
Dr Steven I Barry.
Senior Lecturer in Applied Mathematics,
UNSW@ADFA
10 May, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Eric Thorne
In a past life, I was a Senior Compiler in Public Finance Division with the ABS. I also lectured at USQ for 10 years. I am now retired.
This proposal is short-sighted in the extreme. It flies in the face of what Australia needs – mathematicians, scientists, actuaries, engineers etc as well as our desperate need for researchers.
It is hoped that common sense will prevail.
I strongly support this petition.
Eric Thorne.
13 May, 2008 at 4:04 am
Marlowe:PI
This type of proposal seems to hover over most small venue universities every now and then. It’s nice to see so many people interested, even when it doesn’t affect them directly.
I support the petition, of course.
Pablo Zadunaisky
Mathematics Undergrad student,
Universidad de Buenos Aires
13 May, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Gus Lehrer
The notion that mathematics can be taught and studied in an environment where it is not the main object of attention may seem to provide short term economic benefits. However ultimately it will impoverish any institution or country which implements policies based on this idea. Australia should be able to do better.
Prof. Gus Lehrer FAA
University of Sydney.
15 May, 2008 at 12:22 pm
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16 May, 2008 at 1:31 am
devdattd
I strongly support the petition and the position of Professor Tao. I urge the university and public authorities to reverse this potentially disastrous course of action with immediate effect.
Devdatt Dubhashi
Professor
Dept. of Computer Science
Chalmers
Sweden
16 May, 2008 at 3:06 am
Alessandro Panconesi
Australia’s economic competitors on the world scene will just love these cuts, as they are bound to inflict deep and lasting damage to the economy of Australia as a whole. Most affected will be the more advanced, knowledge intensive sectors, i.e. precisely those that offer the best prospect to withstand international competition from countries with very low labour costs. Hopefully Australians do not want to compete with China and India in that respect?!?
Alessandro Panconesi, professor
Computer Science Dept
Sapienza University of Rome
16 May, 2008 at 9:06 am
Oscar Garcia
Me too.
Oscar Garcia, Professor
Chair in Forest Growth and Yield
University of Northern British Columbia
Canada
16 May, 2008 at 11:53 am
Kevin J. Keen
The planned cuts for USQ in mathematics, computing, and statistics are incredibly shortsighted. There needs to be reconsideration.
Kevin J. Keen, Ph.D., P.Stat.
Associate Professor
Mathematics
University of Nothern British Columbia
Canada
18 May, 2008 at 4:41 am
Paul Bellette
Mathematics and Physics are uniquely important due to the depth of understanding that the study of these subjects provides in all areas of science. It is a shame that such important subjects with such long term benefits are judged in a short term cost/immediate payoff fashion.
Paul Bellette
University of Queensland
21 May, 2008 at 12:30 am
Peter Wood
I strongly support this petition. A good university should have a properly resourced mathematics department.
Dr Peter Wood
Department of Applied Mathematics
Research School of Physical Sciences and Engineering
The Australian National University.
22 May, 2008 at 9:27 pm
Anonymous
I very strongly support this petition!
Prof. Dr. Michael Huber
Institute of Mathematics
Technical University Berlin,
Germany
27 May, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Nell Stetner-Houweling
I strongly support this petition.
Nell Stetner-Houweling
Bachelor Mathematics, Honors in Statistics
Statistician
Qld State Government
29 May, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Timothy Stehr
Having studied at UNSW, I realise that the true importance and relevance of mathematics wasn’t impressed upon my school year. It was only when I attended mathematics at University that this was impressed and made a world of difference to me as to the importance, perpetuity and beauty of Mathematics.
Mathematics and its application is fundamental across a broad cross-section of industries and professions for Australia’s future well-being, as well as the countries which benefit from Australia’s scientific and engineering expertise among others. True advances in technology tend to derive from mathematical origins and mthematical laws.
Many of my colleagues and friends have children who are starting University and have chosen to now go through the additional expense and headache of sending their children to the University of Queensland and the other universities which support the mathematics curriculum. Speaking to other people, these mathematically-educated individuals have moved into larger cities and/or overseas. Hence the loss of mathematics at USQ will have a compounding effect on the region.
I wholeheartedly support this petition and would like to slow down the “dumbing down” of Australia.
3 June, 2008 at 6:19 am
Pierre Portal
I strongly support this petition.
The situation at USQ is appalling. Unfortunately it is not uncommon. In fact it seems to me that it exemplifies a dangerous phenomenon that is experienced worldwide: the weakening of the mathematical knowledge base of societies at a time when strengthening it is of the utmost importance. From an economic point of view this is particularly intriguing and frightening. But this is not the place, and I am not the right person, to present in details the dangerous dynamics of this phenomenon.
I just want to point out that this petition is particularly important, because USQ in particular, and, unfortunately, Australia in general, give some of the most shocking examples of how political decisions based on short-term analysis can have catastrophic long term effects. It seems that Mathematics, which is particularly needed in Australia and was once very strong in this country, now stands on the brink of collapse. As such Australia has thus become a kind of laboratory, where the economical consequences of certain choices regarding research and teaching of Mathematics will soon appear.
There is no doubt that these choices will be carefully analyzed by many around the World. This also has special significance for me, since I have just returned to France (where the situation of Mathematics is, comparatively, perfect) after a postdoc in Australia (where I would have stayed if an opportunity existed).
Dr Pierre Portal
Lecturer (Mathematics)
Universite Lille 1
France
5 June, 2008 at 4:35 am
Professor John Blake
As a member of the Australian Mathematical Society and a former Chair of the Division of Applied Mathematics, I strongly urge USQ management to rescind their proposals and use the additional resources provided by the Fedaeral Government to revitalise and expand developments in mathematics and statistics and disciplines allied to mathematics.
John Blake, School of Mathematics, University of Birmingham
(formerly CSIRO Division of Mathematics and Statistics and University of Wollongong)
12 June, 2008 at 4:14 am
Evan Shellshear
The actions of the USQ are deplorable, dishonest and reveal the true nature of the Uni. Students studying there should ask themselves whether they are being truly offered a decent eduaction or just being tolerated as long as it is profitable for USQ. I completely agree with the above petition.
Evan Shellshear
PhD Student
Bielefeld University, Germany
14 June, 2008 at 8:10 pm
Malcolm Clark
Many universities in Australia, not just USQ, appear to be run by a cadre of adminstrators in the relentless pursuit of mediocrity. Mathematics is particularly targeted by this managerial approach.
I strongly support this petition.
Malcolm Clark
School of Mathematical Sciences,
Monash University
15 June, 2008 at 3:39 am
Hriday Kant Dewan
Higher education and research are key to being a human civilization and it would be a pity if we were to cut out those areas in abstract disciplines and stop challenging our minds and our learning to create new scopes and new models for even the utilitarian knowledge to grow.
We need to ask how we balance the so called resource crunch and use the resources more for creation of ideas than for destruction and for its prevention.
Vidya Bhawan Udaipur
17 June, 2008 at 9:32 am
Barbara Boschmans
I strongly support this petition.
Barbara Boschmans
Chair, Mathematics Department
Plymouth State University
Plymouth, NH, USA
17 June, 2008 at 10:23 am
Anonymous
I fully support the petition. Mathematics plays a central role in
advancing science and technology and addressing critical problems of
society and industry. A strong educational program in mathematics is
essential to the health, prosperity, and security of any modern nation.
Douglas N. Arnold
McKnight Presidential Professor of Mathematics, University of Minnesota, USA
Director, Institute for Mathematics and its Applications
President-Elect, Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics
17 June, 2008 at 10:28 am
Alip Mohammed
Japan, Korea, China…. and a bit far Germany, France, countries doing better because of their skills(science, engineering, mathematics), not because of their recourses or because of their non-mathematical skills. Maybe USQ officials wants all the jobs which has something to do with math to be shifted to India or China, because they are good in manufacturing and in math? Then why not the offices could be run from India and China? They can do it more efficiently and for less money. But they will not cut math.
I strongly support this petition.
Alip Mohammed
Department of Mathematics and Statistics
York University, Toronto
Canada
17 June, 2008 at 10:30 am
Laura Watkins
I strongly support the petition.
Laura Watkins, Ph.D.
Department of Mathematics
Glendale Community College,
Glendale, AZ, USA
17 June, 2008 at 11:03 am
Hyman Bass
I fully support the views expressed by Terry Tao. It is unthinkable for a modern university, anywhere, to be without a well supported and vibrant mathematical sciences department. Without this, everyone suffers from the loss.
Hyman Bass
University of Michigan
Past President of the American Mathematical Society
Past President of the International Commission on Mathematical Instruction
Member US National Academy of Sciences and of the Third World Academy of Sciences.
17 June, 2008 at 11:23 am
Rheta Rubenstein
Mathematics has a long history of critical value in civilization. The world’s future is at stake if major institutions eliminate this vital discipline from their programs.
17 June, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Rod Downey
I totally support this petition. The Australian Government having responded to the review of mathematics by changing its funding category I am sure
did not expect that the universities would continue to divert funds away from mathematics. This is just a glaring example.
Rod Downey, Victoria University, Wellington
17 June, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Lorenzo Sadun
Making wholesale cuts to math education in the name of “achieving our potential” is akin to intellectual suicide. I completely support the petition.
Lorenzo Sadun, Professor and Associate Chair of the Mathematics Department, University of Texas
17 June, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Idris Assani
I strongly support this petition.
Idris Assani,
Professor
University of North Carolina
at Chapel Hill, NC- USA
17 June, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Leo
Wish I can help.
Ph.D.
Department of mathematices and statistics
York University
Toronto
17 June, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Romulo Lins
I endorse the petition as stated and urge the Australian government to reconsider.
Romulo Lins
Mathematics Department/Postgraduate Program in Mathematics Education
State University of São Paulo at Rio Claro, Brazil
Former President, Brazilian Soc. for Mathematics Education
(1995-1998)
17 June, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Andy Edwards
The Sunshine State was fairly recently re-christened “The Smart State” in some sort of attempt to improve its image among intellectuals and innovators.
Having read Professor Tao’s analysis of the financial imperatives which are being blamed for this breathtakingly shortsighted decision, I am convinced that the definition of “smart” being applied in this case is one I don’t recognise.
In a state where well over a third of all junior secondary maths classes are being taken by hardworking teachers who studied no maths at university and which faces the imminent retirement of about a third of all its most experienced maths teachers within five years, forces are clearly at work to ensure that hardly any of them are replaced.
Secondary students in Queensland study maths for only three years before they are expected to learn calculus in years 11 and 12. The quality of their teachers in those three years needs to be first rate – not third.
USQ’s calculated undermining of its maths program has the potential to ensure that many thousands of Queensland children are permanently mathematically disadvantaged.
I deplore their actions and call on them to adjust their forward view.
Andy Edwards
Senior Testing Officer,
Queensland Studies Authority,
Brisbane, QLD.
18 June, 2008 at 3:35 am
Lenny Fukshansky
I fully support the petition!
Mathematics is one of the vital disciplines, and thus essential departments of any university. Making major cuts of such sort is unreasonable and dangerous.
Lenny Fukshansky
Assistant Professor of Mathematics
Claremont McKenna College
Claremont, California, USA
18 June, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Mary Barnes
I fully support this petition. As Terry Tao has pointed out, in today’s world there is a great need, not only for people trained in the mathematical and information sciences, but also for business and political leaders and the general public to have a good understanding of mathematical concepts that can inform their decision-making. In view of the current, and growing, shortage of mathematics teachers in high schools, some students may be reluctant, or may not feel competent, to enroll in courses with a high mathematics content. For the sake of the future prosperity of the nation, the response to this should NOT be to reduce mathematics teaching, but to provide additional assistance and encouragement and resources for teaching mathematics in universities. Regardless of the quality, skill and dedication of the teachers, over-stressed, over-worked lecturers and over-large classes cannot provide the quality mathematics education that is needed.
Mary Barnes
Formerly Director, Mathematics Learning Centre
The University of Sydney
19 June, 2008 at 3:01 am
Keith Jones
The Mathematics Education Research Group at the University of Southampton (UK) fully support the views expressed by Terry Tao. It is vital to increase the provision of high-quality education in mathematics. As Terry says, a deep and well-rounded understanding of mathematics – and perhaps more importantly, mathematical thinking – is becoming ever more important.
We urge the University of Southern Queensland to consider the importance of investing in the teaching of mathematics at University level.
19 June, 2008 at 6:27 am
Mason Porter
I fully and enthusiastically support this petition.
I find it both shameful and depressing that many institutions seem to this myopic. Hopefully it’s not too late in this case.
Mason Porter
University Lecturer, Mathematical Institute
University of Oxford
19 June, 2008 at 6:46 am
Anonymous
I endorse this petition.
Andrew Gillette
Department of Mathematics
University of Texas at Austin
19 June, 2008 at 7:32 am
Melissa Erdmann
I fully support this petition.
Melissa Erdmann
Department of Mathematics
Nebraska Wesleyan University
Lincoln, Nebraska
USA
19 June, 2008 at 7:56 am
Mariano Beguerisse
I fully support this petition.
Mariano Beguerisse Díaz
Graduate Student, Computing Laboratory
University of Oxford
19 June, 2008 at 9:58 am
Marc Laforest
The loss of mathematics is the loss of the language of quantitative science.
I support this petition.
Marc Laforest
École Polytechnique de Montréal
Montréal, Canada
19 June, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Enam Hoq
I strongly support this petition.
19 June, 2008 at 1:01 pm
Gavin Seal
I heartily support this petition.
Gavin Seal
SNSF Fellow
McGill University
19 June, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Josh Laison
I fully support this petition.
Josh Laison
Assistant Professor
Mathematics Department
Willamette University
19 June, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Michael Hartley
I fully support this petition.
I left Australia in 1996 after completing my PhD. There were literally zero academic jobs in pure mathematics in Australia at the time, thanks to government policy. After 10 years working in tertiary teaching overseas, I am now employed as a research mathematician for an Australian company.
Mathematics has been neglected in Australia for too long. Do these bureaucrats really think that maths is not important??
20 June, 2008 at 9:16 am
Michael Pelsmajer
I support this petition.
Michael J. Pelsmajer
20 June, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Fred J. Hickernell
I strongly support this petition. The Illinois Institute of Technology shut down the mathematics BS and PhD programs a number of years ago. Although the university realized its mistake and revived these programs nine years ago, it has taken a long time to recover from the damage. Students in all disciplines are best served when taught mathematics by research mathematicians and when they can take classes together with mathematics students.
Fred J. Hickernell
Professor and Chair of Applied Mathematics
Illinois Institute of Technology
23 June, 2008 at 9:18 am
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
John Bourke
Phd student in Mathematics
University of Sydney
23 June, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Donald W. Barnes
I strongly support this petition.
Don Barnes
Formerly Reader in Pure Mathematics
University of Sydney
23 June, 2008 at 11:06 pm
Danya Rose
I add my strong support to this petition.
Danya Rose
Applied Mathematics Honours Student
University of Sydney
24 June, 2008 at 8:01 am
Gordon Williams
While not an Australian, I collaborate with a colleague from Australia in my research. As someone who has a great deal of respect for the contributions of Australians to the mathematical and scientific community, I would hate to see this kind of short-sighted proposal implemented. It sounds like the kind of thing that would not only have a detrimental impact on mathematics and mathematics education in Australia, but hamper the future contributions of Australians to mathematics in the world.
24 June, 2008 at 9:25 am
Keshav Jagannathan
Despite seemingly worldwide budget cuts to education, I believe that education is the one true legacy that we leave to future generations. To not fund education to the fullest degree seems to me to be a cardinal sin that will adversely affect many generations to come. I feel very strongly about mathematics and statistics education and support this petition to the fullest.
Keshav Jagannathan
Assistant Professor,
Department of Mathematics and Statistics
Coastal Carolina University
24 June, 2008 at 10:58 pm
Vinoth Nandakumar
As an undergraduate student studying mathematics in Australia, I completely endorse this petition. Opportunities to study mathematics/sciences at significant depth in high school are progressively being ‘dumbed down’ by organizations such as the Board of Studies and no longer give as thorough a coverage as would have been possible in prior years; if universities fail to deliver opportunities to young scientists to pursue their passions, this leaves the majority of students with no option but to look elsewhere for further education in mathematics. The day when Australia is not able, for any reason, to nurture interest in the sciences and contribute to the mathematical community will be a very sad day indeed.
Vinoth Nandakumar,
Undergraduate Student,
University of Sydney
25 June, 2008 at 5:20 pm
James East
Another vote of support.
James East
Postdoctoral Research Fellow
University of Sydney
27 June, 2008 at 8:46 am
Melissa Day
I support this petition as an Oceanography Research Technician at Coastal Carolina University in South Carolina, USA. Without support for maths, sciences and technical applications education we are short-changing the global society.
In the very least the administration should have integrity in the process of their decision making.
Please persevere for this issue to maintain a high level of quality in education. I believe academics is of high importance to a bright future.
Melissa Day
Research Technician
Marine & Wetland Studies
Coastal Carolina University
2 July, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Laszlo Liptak
I strongly support the petition. In addition, I urge every one of us to seriously think about these issues. Why do people think that service courses are sufficient? Is it because in many low-level courses we teach nothing else but the applications, basically reducing math to a bunch of formulas and recipes? I believe we should rethink what and how we teach in our courses, and especially in today’s computer age, focus on understanding.
Laszlo Liptak
Associate Professor
Dept. of Mathematics and Statistics
Oakland University, Michigan
7 July, 2008 at 8:12 am
Emanuel
In support of the petition, I would say that the USQ administration should change the name of their slogan to “Realising our Minimum Potential”.
9 July, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Erik Koelink
I strongly support the petition.
Erik Koelink
Professor
Dept. Math
Radboud Universiteit Nijmegen
the Netherlands
16 July, 2008 at 1:51 am
Alan Geal
I unreservedly endorse the petition. If the proposals were implemented then the USQ would cease to be a university – other than in name alone.
Alan Geal FRSA
Architect and Mathematician
Pleiade Associates
16 July, 2008 at 8:59 am
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
Robert H. Lewis
Fordham University
New York
26 July, 2008 at 11:26 am
Maths Matters « Mathematics in Australia
[...] students and their parents, and even a Nobel Laureate. The petition can be found online at http://terrytao.wordpress.com/about/petition-to-support-maths-statistics-and-computing-at-usq/; the many thoughtful and impassioned comments left there in support of the petition are well worth [...]
30 July, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Anonymous
I strongly support this petition.
Lincoln Lam
Honors year undergrad
National University of Singapore
13 August, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Daniel Moskovich
I support this petition.
Daniel Moskovich
Visiting fellow
School of Mathematics
Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, Mumbai
20 August, 2008 at 3:14 am
Brian.S.Burge
…..Best of Luck !!
//Brian S. Burge
BE, MEngStud, GradDipApplied Maths
USQ student#0050090427.
21 August, 2008 at 1:51 am
Eric JESPERS
I stronly support this petition. Mathematics is a corner stone
for all sciences and for many applications.
5 September, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Gazette Issue 4 (September) now online « Mathematics in Australia
[...] Tao, writes about the state of mathematics in Australia. Despite his busy schedule, Terry ran a petition for mathematics at the University of Southern Queensland, which attracted more than a thousand signatures from [...]
24 September, 2008 at 9:51 am
David Standingford
This morning I received my copy of the “gazette” – something I look forward to as a member of the “extended Australian mathematics family” now that I am living in the UK. I am very disappointed to learn that USQ has so under-valued its Mathematics Department, particularly when the Australian federal government has specifically made provision for mathematics in its budget. However, the lack of general understanding of the importance of good mathematics & statistics research and teaching to the health of an economy and the quality of life of a population is one that the mathematics community itself must address more effectively.
David Standingford
PhD in Applied Mathematics (Adelaide) 1997
Group Leader, Fluid Dynamics
BAE Systems Advanced Technology Centre
12 October, 2008 at 7:49 am
Anonymous
My BAS final year project was on letter recognition. A corner stone of this IT project were its mathematical equations….
I give my complete support to this petition and as a USQ student who is taking an MITP, I feel shocked!
English is my second language, so I am summarizing my thoughts. However, I hope this does not emulate to others that I am less disappointed than those who were able to express their thoughts thoroughly in English.
Ayman Jaffar
Computer Engineering (BAS)
Certifications: OCP Developer, OCP DBA, SCJP
Faculty
Higher Colleges of Technology
United Arab Emirates
22 October, 2008 at 9:38 pm
Yang
I totally support this petition.
Yang Xu
3rd Year Actuarial Science Student
The University of Melbourne
1 November, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Aram Harrow
I support the petition.
Aram Harrow
Lecturer in Mathematics
University of Bristol
2 November, 2008 at 3:40 am
Rashed Khalid
I fully support this petition. Maths and developing math thinking skills are perhaps the most important things one can learn at university. In learning the process of proof one answers the most fundemental question i.e why something happens. Developing these habits of mind help in problem solving and creative thinking, skills which our world needs alot of.
4 November, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Richard Marschall
I support this petition, but this is the result of too many university mathematics and engineering departments becoming detached from actual practitioners in industry and commerce. If law schools were staffed by people who never presented a case to a judge and jury would you take them seriously? If medical schools were staffed by people who never treated patients or did surgery, would you bother being trained there? Then why does Australia have mathematics departments where none of the faculty have ever worked in industry? Engineering departments where only a few faculty (at best) have ever worked in the commercial world? Should anyone be surprised mathematics and engineering enrollments are down under these circumstances? I think not.
12 November, 2008 at 1:20 am
Markus Streckhardt
As a former international student and graduate of USQ’s MBA program I strongly support this petition. A sound understanding of mathematics and statistics is the foundation for science in general, regardless of the the area of experticse. Providing a less comprehensive education in mathematics and statistics is equivalent to giving graduates less appropriate tools to tackle challenges in both, science and business.
According to my understanding any institution called university has an obligation to teach students state of the art knowledge in a comprehensive way, particular when it comes to probleme solving skills.
Cutting back maths and statistics will lower USQ’s reputation in the mid term. This may lead to less enrollments in future – at least from Europe – where a general, broad and comphrehensive scientific foundation is a substantial part of university education.
Markus Streckhardt
Senior Account Manager
Eastman Chemical International AG
Switzerland
16 November, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Anonymous
I fully support this petition.
Pratyush Tiwary
Caltech, Pasadena, CA
8 January, 2009 at 1:36 am
daniel kokic
maths is the best i have done alot you know targeting maths
23 April, 2009 at 12:18 am
Rheannon Ashby
Mathematics is an essential foundation of modern society. Without it, how are we expected to progress into the future? Cutting back staff who will properly educate the prospective mathematicians of tomorrow will deteriorate hopes for the future.
I understand that there are many fields that could also be considered very important, and in essence all fields are essential, but mathematics is the fundamentals of everything – how would we build houses, build cars, computers, mobile phones and internet connections (all of which are used on a daily basis) without a sound understanding of mathematics?
I hope this contributes to the re-staffing of competent educators and mathematicians.
30 May, 2009 at 8:03 am
Clive Granger « Mathematics in Australia
[...] wrote in support of the campaign to support the department of mathematics and computer science at the University of [...]
13 August, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Kerry Esmond
As an maths teacher and an ex student of USQ it is disappointing that at a time when the federal minister Julia Gillard is implementing cuts in Hecs so that more quality maths teachers and statisticians are trained this institution is cutting this departments numbers.
8 September, 2009 at 8:00 am
Jen Petana
I strongly support this petition.
Jen Pestana
Postgraduate Student
University of Oxford
27 October, 2009 at 6:45 am
Patrick Lucey
As an ex USQ student I am shocked at this course of action. I fully endorse this petition.
Postdoctoral Research Fellow
University of Pittsburgh/
Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon University.
29 November, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Edwin Khoo
I strongly support this petition.
B.S. in Chemical Engineering
Stanford University
31 March, 2011 at 5:57 pm
Peter Horan
USQ is not the first.
I strongly support this petition.
B. E., M. Eng. Sci.
10 May, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Tom Brown
I like very much, and completely agree with, one of the earliest comments: “Cutting back on mathematics to save money is like the farmer’s family eating the seed corn.”
1 June, 2011 at 8:18 am
Audrius Meskauskas, PhD
I am of course not an Australian citizen but if my opinion matters this really does not look as a very wise decision that I would like to oppose as a member of the international science community. As a system biologist can for sure say that mathematics matters a lot in many other sciences.
15 September, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Harrison Jones
I endorse this petition.
Harrison Jones
Undergraduate
University of Sydney